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Post#61 » by Pharaoh » Tue Nov 7, 2017 2:33 pm

Billl wrote:You've got to quit dreaming about dre becoming a good offensive player. It's not happening. The thing we need to hope for is that dre continues to be effective and efficient at what he can do - and hits enough free throws for us to keep him on the floor.

I really like SVG putting him in the high post for all that dribble handoff action. It's keeping him engaged without trying to force feed him in the post.

Also allows Dre to use his quickness and athleticism as opposed to poor technique in the post

The high/mid is where he needs to live

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Re: Drummond's Free Throws 

Post#62 » by tmorgan » Tue Nov 7, 2017 7:26 pm

As most of you know, I'm a big stats guy, but I do understand context.

Dre has played much better this year -- from the line, obviously, but also in terms of defensive awareness and overall attitude on the court. I'm very pleased.

Somewhere down the line, though, someone is going to look at Dre's stats and try to say he became a better passer this year, too. His assists are way up, but we all know he's just taking a different role in the offense. Stats do lie, sometimes.
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Re: Drummond's Free Throws 

Post#63 » by zeebneeb » Tue Nov 7, 2017 9:24 pm

tmorgan wrote:As most of you know, I'm a big stats guy, but I do understand context.

Dre has played much better this year -- from the line, obviously, but also in terms of defensive awareness and overall attitude on the court. I'm very pleased.

Somewhere down the line, though, someone is going to look at Dre's stats and try to say he became a better passer this year, too. His assists are way up, but we all know he's just taking a different role in the offense. Stats do lie, sometimes.
Well they would be correct...to an extent. If you play to someone's strengths they will achieve more.

Not all big men can play that top of the key swivel and distributor. Andre picked it up fast and it added a deadly angle to our offense. Its so effective because Andre is so damn mobile. Most(I mean most 90%+)of centers that are at the key, cannot put the ball on the floor and get to the basket with Andres skill and ball handling. He passes well and keeps the big from showing, opening up the entire offense, and its worked to great success predicated solely on Andres ability to pass, and to take his man when they cheat, or run straight to the rim for the lob.

Its amazingly effective. Add in his miraculous free throw transformation and he's only getting more and more aggressive.

This is all possible because Andre can pass the ball effectively from the top of the key.
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Post#64 » by MrBigShot » Tue Nov 7, 2017 10:29 pm

I'd argue that taking a bigger role in the offense has necessitated the need for him to improve his passing & decision making ability.
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Post#65 » by hoophabit » Tue Nov 7, 2017 10:48 pm

I don't want to argue, but I'd submit that it all happens because he now relishes his trips to the line. He no longer looks scared. It's finally starting to slow down for one of the more physically gifted bigs to ever suit up. This could be fun.
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Post#66 » by tmorgan » Tue Nov 7, 2017 11:33 pm

I'll buy the athleticism to get to basket quickly part, but pretty much anyone can stand out there and hand the ball off for the occasional assist.

Again, what changed was his role. He's always thought of himself as a good ball handler and passer for a big, and I don't see him doing anything much differently except getting a bigger role. Good on him, but it isn't a new skill. That FT shooting is, tho. :-)
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Re: Drummond's Free Throws 

Post#67 » by El Chivo » Thu Nov 9, 2017 6:46 am

Ouch.

Great game for him, though,
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Post#68 » by Jstock12 » Thu Nov 9, 2017 11:26 am

El Chivo wrote:Ouch.

Great game for him, though,


It was unrealistic to expect that 75% number to be sustainable. I think he'll end up being a ~60% shooter which would still be an astronomical improvement from his last season (38%). And at 60% hack-a-andre strategy would already be ineffective since it translates to the same efficiency as shooting threes at a 40% clip (1.2 PPP).
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Re: Drummond's Free Throws 

Post#69 » by pistontr » Thu Nov 9, 2017 1:23 pm

by the way, does anyone miss immortal kcp?
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Re: Drummond's Free Throws 

Post#70 » by Wallace_Wallace » Thu Nov 9, 2017 5:36 pm

pistontr wrote:by the way, does anyone miss immortal kcp?


Why miss the Wal-Mart version of Avery Bradley, when Avery Bradley already plays for us

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