Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 3

Foliohattu · Post #801 » by **Foliohattu** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:36 pm

jcsunsfan wrote:We could keep Monroe and trade Len for him. If Len agrees. No risk there. They are both in the same situation. Each team gets a different look at a guy.

Yeah but the thinking is that Okafor hasn't gotten a chance and he will be better elsewhere right? If he ends up playing good enough with us that some team is willing to offer him 6M+ per year, we can only offer him 5.3M and would most likely lose him.

jcsunsfan · Post #802 » by **jcsunsfan** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:39 pm

[Jahlil Okafor. Hand size. Makes a difference in basketball.

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NTB · Post #803 » by **NTB** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:19 pm

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Bogyo · Post #804 » by **Bogyo** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:43 pm

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Wow, we are really trying to keep up with Dallas (until they get better with Carlisle) and Sacramento (until their team gels a bit).

We are coming for that 3rd spot baby! Ayton, Doncic, Porter all look fine to me.

thamadkant · Post #805 » by **thamadkant** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:19 pm

So if 76ers buy out Okafor instead... And Suns or whomever picks him up, would they be able to re sign him on a bigger deal?

That's a real silly rule regarding declined 4th option trades.

Fo-Real · Post #806 » by **Fo-Real** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:21 pm

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As my rants in the past have shown, I have been an would still be good if we go get Okafer. He cat be worse than Len going ahead.

kid idioteque · Post #807 » by **kid idioteque** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:40 pm

Bucks fan here. I'm sure others have already chimed in but Moose is a good dude. Take good care of him.

NTB · Post #808 » by **NTB** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:03 pm

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Saberestar · Post #810 » by **Saberestar** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:22 pm

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Good to know that he is with the team. Hopefully he plays in some game the next week.

jcsunsfan · Post #811 » by **jcsunsfan** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:25 pm

If nothing else, this is a good opportunity to work on developing a good relationship with a player.

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jredsaz · Post #813 » by **jredsaz** » Sat Nov 11, 2017 1:28 am

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Nah. Saver ain't cheap :roll:

LukasBMW · Post #814 » by **LukasBMW** » Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:30 am

Any chance Brandon Knight will return thus year?
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Seriously. Anything is better then Mike James.

LukasBMW · Post #815 » by **LukasBMW** » Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:33 am

I want Okafor on this team now!

King4Day · Post #816 » by **King4Day** » Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:58 am

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As my rants in the past have shown, I have been an would still be good if we go get Okafer. He cat be worse than Len going ahead.

Yea I really hope we get him. Move Len while we're at it and start Okafor. See what he's got. If he plays well, I think he'd sign a one year deal with us since he knows he can build his value and get a bigger deal.

Post #817 » by **bwgood77** » Sat Nov 11, 2017 5:06 am

DarkHawk wrote:
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As my rants in the past have shown, I have been an would still be good if we go get Okafer. He cat be worse than Len going ahead.

Yea I really hope we get him. Move Len while we're at it and start Okafor. See what he's got. If he plays well, I think he'd sign a one year deal with us since he knows he can build his value and get a bigger deal.

Lukas BMW wrote:I want Okafor on this team now!

1UPZ wrote:So if 76ers buy out Okafor instead... And Suns or whomever picks him up, would they be able to re sign him on a bigger deal?

Here is the problem of getting Okafor this year, especially if he plays really well:

When a team decides to decline a team option for a player on a rookie scale contract, I am aware that team can not resign the player for more than what their option was worth for that season.

So for example, Philadelphia can not pay Okafor more than what his 2018-19 option was worth this offseason. My question is what if they trade Okafor to let's say Chicago. Can Chicago pay him more than what his option was worth or must they also abide by the rules of not going over? Also does this only apply to the resigning team? For example when Okafor enters unrestricted free agency can a team like Brooklyn offer him more than what his option was? Or is Okafor not allowed to make more than his option no matter what?

The restriction applies to his original team that declined the option, and also to any team to whom that contract was subsequently "assigned." So in your example...

Can Chicago pay him more than what his option was worth
NO
or must they also abide by the rules of not going over?
YES
when Okafor enters unrestricted free agency can a team like Brooklyn offer him more than what his option was?
YES

See CBA Art VII Sec 6 (m) (4)

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1633223

If we take him right now when he is on the QO, we can't pay him more than that next year, but any other team can. So if he played really well and someone wanted him, all they'd have to do is offer him more than the QO, and he'd be gone, unless he wanted less money.

jcsunsfan · Post #818 » by **jcsunsfan** » Sat Nov 11, 2017 5:44 am

Are we in the same boat with Len?

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Post #819 » by **bwgood77** » Sat Nov 11, 2017 5:49 am

jcsunsfan wrote:Are we in the same boat with Len?

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No, we extended him the QO. The Sixers declined the option to do so.

Post #820 » by **bwgood77** » Sat Nov 11, 2017 5:50 am

This may have been mentioned in the game thread, but just came across it on espn:

Nick Friedell
ESPN Staff Writer

Interesting acknowledgement from Suns interim head coach Jay Triano during pregame — admitting that the each practice and shootaround over the next two months is like training camp for his young team as they try to implement a new philosophy.

I mean, it is like our players are going through training camp in the middle of the season with a new coach trying to implement a new philosophy. It's good, but we are like 2 months behind everyone else in this regard...and that's for teams that switched coaches.