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Game 13: Orlando Magic at Phoenix Suns, Friday, November 10th, 7PM MST

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Re: Game 13: Orlando Magic at Phoenix Suns, Friday, November 10th, 7PM MST 

Post#221 » by garrick » Sat Nov 11, 2017 6:31 am

Kerrsed wrote:Its amazing watching both teams on offense. Somehow Orlandos able to move the ball around through screens and picks and get open shots damn near every possession.

Yet when we have the ball, there are no open shots. Every shot has a defender dripped all over him with a hand in the face.

Seriously something needs to change. Either we need to be practicing every day off and work on sets and plays or we really need to step up the defense more than any other team in the history of the Suns franchise.

Yeah didn't Tirano say they really didn't get full practices until after the road trip?

Off ball movement is terrible but that's not due to not passing as the ball does get passed around its just that not everyone is on the same page offensively.
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Re: Game 13: Orlando Magic at Phoenix Suns, Friday, November 10th, 7PM MST 

Post#222 » by Kerrsed » Sat Nov 11, 2017 6:36 am

Ill say it once again, We need to quit with James/Ulis and run Booker at PG in that DWade role. He should have complete control of the ball and who ends up with it. He is our best shooter/scorer. He has that offensive game and is a legitimate threat. He is the face of the franchise. He is the team leader. Put the damn ball in his hands and let him work his magic. If he can score, he will. If he cant, that likely means he is being double teamed and i trust him getting the ball to the open man a hell of a lot more than i do James/Ulis.

These past 10 games or so i have really noticed that Booker gets a lack of touches. The ball should touch his hands every play, whether he shoots it or not. The main issue is that the defense has an easy time stifling our point guards and denying Booker the ball. Its not just the point guards, but almost all the other players besides Booker. The opposing teams D shuts them down so they can pass it to Booker. Either they double team the ball handler, or they have 2 guys on Booker himself. This is whats been happening as they are fine leaving Len somewhat unguarded around the FT line, or leaving Warren open from that corner 3 that he bricks 4 times a night, or slacking off on Bender at the 3 knowing that he is most likely going to be hesitant to shoot the ball and end up just passing it around the perimeter. The defense slacks off on all these guys in these spots and concentrates on denying Booker the ball.

So let him run the damn point and put the ball in his hands as soon as we inbound the ball. Its what Miami did with Wade and it worked WONDERS (And Wade wasnt even as good of a shooter as Booker, but he knew how to score, whether it was taking it to the rim and converting or drawing the contact).

When a team is having a hard time getting the ball to their star player, they have them run the point. Wade. Lebron. Westbrook. Harden. The guards that played next to them usually acted as a secondary ball handler, not the tradition PG role.

Booker/Jackson/Warren/Bender/Chriss <--- Or even replace Chris with Monroe once he comes back.
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Re: Game 13: Orlando Magic at Phoenix Suns, Friday, November 10th, 7PM MST 

Post#223 » by grumpysaddle » Sat Nov 11, 2017 6:45 am

Kerrsed wrote:Ill say it once again, We need to quit with James/Ulis and run Booker at PG in that DWade role. He should have complete control of the ball and who ends up with it. He is our best shooter/scorer. He has that offensive game and is a legitimate threat. He is the face of the franchise. He is the team leader. Put the damn ball in his hands and let him work his magic. If he can score, he will. If he cant, that likely means he is being double teamed and i trust him getting the ball to the open man a hell of a lot more than i do James/Ulis.

These past 10 games or so i have really noticed that Booker gets a lack of touches. The ball should touch his hands every play, whether he shoots it or not. The main issue is that the defense has an easy time stifling our point guards and denying Booker the ball. Its not just the point guards, but almost all the other players besides Booker. The opposing teams D shuts them down so they can pass it to Booker. Either they double team the ball handler, or they have 2 guys on Booker himself. This is whats been happening as they are fine leaving Len somewhat unguarded around the FT line, or leaving Warren open from that corner 3 that he bricks 4 times a night, or slacking off on Bender at the 3 knowing that he is most likely going to be hesitant to shoot the ball and end up just passing it around the perimeter. The defense slacks off on all these guys in these spots and concentrates on denying Booker the ball.

So let him run the damn point and put the ball in his hands as soon as we inbound the ball. Its what Miami did with Wade and it worked WONDERS (And Wade wasnt even as good of a shooter as Booker, but he knew how to score, whether it was taking it to the rim and converting or drawing the contact).

When a team is having a hard time getting the ball to their star player, they have them run the point. Wade. Lebron. Westbrook. Harden. The guards that played next to them usually acted as a secondary ball handler, not the tradition PG role.

Booker/Jackson/Warren/Bender/Chriss <--- Or even replace Chris with Monroe once he comes back.


It's most definitely worth a shot running Booker as the PG. I mean, what can it hurt, we are losing badly anyway. He definitely needs the ball to either create for himself or others. Even on limited touches he usually finishes with the highest assist number for us. It's far too easy for teams to shut the offense down when all they really need to do is make sure Booker never touches the ball. Giving it to him in the backcourt makes sure that he touches the ball every possession.

I appreciate that James stepped in when the Bledsoe stuff went down, but I really don't think we should give him a multi-year contract. Ulis has struggled, but I'd much rather him as the backup if we did end up going with Booker at PG. I'm just tired of selfish hero ball. Young teams have a hard time passing when they get it though. I think they're too concentrated on their own game and not the team game.

Suns need to run practices hard to instill a system and who cares how tired their legs are for games as long as they are making strides towards fundamental team basketball with eyes on future seasons.
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Re: Game 13: Orlando Magic at Phoenix Suns, Friday, November 10th, 7PM MST 

Post#224 » by garrick » Sat Nov 11, 2017 7:04 am

I think James is fine but he really is just a solid bench player in the mold of Eddie House.

Only issue I see with starting Jackson is his poor 3pt shooting but would be worth a shot I guess.
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Re: Game 13: Orlando Magic at Phoenix Suns, Friday, November 10th, 7PM MST 

Post#225 » by Kerrsed » Sat Nov 11, 2017 7:08 am

garrick wrote:I think James is fine but he really is just a solid bench player in the mold of Eddie House.

Only issue I see with starting Jackson is his poor 3pt shooting but would be worth a shot I guess.


He's 35% for the season and 30% for the past 10 games (Tonights 0-4 really messed that % up).
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Re: Game 13: Orlando Magic at Phoenix Suns, Friday, November 10th, 7PM MST 

Post#226 » by thamadkant » Sat Nov 11, 2017 7:11 am

garrick wrote:I think James is fine but he really is just a solid bench player in the mold of Eddie House.

Only issue I see with starting Jackson is his poor 3pt shooting but would be worth a shot I guess.



an insult to Eddie House, who was a good scorer... belonged in the NBA
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Post#227 » by thamadkant » Sat Nov 11, 2017 7:14 am

I said it before, Chriss is dumb...

And for those who used his Per 36 numbers to justify he is good... well... the thing is... he'll never average 36 minutes.. or even 30... he is a fouling machine... dumb fouls too.. just utter dumbest fouls in the NBA type of dumb fouls.
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Re: Game 13: Orlando Magic at Phoenix Suns, Friday, November 10th, 7PM MST 

Post#228 » by thamadkant » Sat Nov 11, 2017 7:21 am

JDLAW wrote:This game was horrible. I very seldom talk about referees, it’s a difficult job but we don’t help at all. In this game the referees were poor and every close call went against the Suns. That exchange at the end of the 3rd where Booker was called for a charge, followed by a blocking foul at the other end, were 2 terrible calls. This gets in the collective head of a young team.

There is no movement in the Suns offense. That makes it easy to defend them – just stand next to your player. There is little passing. I saw nearly a dozen times where James and Ulis dribbled up the court and took a shot without anyone else touching the ball. There was another half a dozen times where Ulis or James just dribbled out the clock head down, going in circles, and then forcing up a shot. Way too much dribbling and way to many possessions where there were 0-1 pass.

The Suns had a pathetic 13 total assists. Booker had 5 assists in the game, and it could have been 10 if the others on the team could finish the play. In contrast, our "point guards" Ulis and James combined for 5 assists. And while it doesn’t count as an assist he made passes that led to scoring through a foul. He played exactly the way he is supposed to. When double-teamed, he passed the ball to an open player. The ball never returned to him. His shooting wasn’t great tonight, but he only took 10 shots and none.

I saw multiple other passes from our point guards that were at Len’s or Warren’s ankles and passes going to open players on the perimeter that forced the player to reach or bend to receive thereby taking the player out of his rhythm.

Rather than just bitch about things, I’ll offer my 2 cents. Change the starters and rotations. Starters going forward should be; Booker, Jackson, Warren, Chriss and Len.



yup.


Suns and their obsession with scoring PGs is hurting the others develop.... I mean, it wouldnt be so bad if the scoring PGs are stars... but Ulis and James are for the lack of a better word ..terrible.

Booker as PG will work better, because he can launch a shot off the dribble, from the 3pt line or slash... he will keep defenses on their toes and jittery. Unlike James and Ulis, who dribble around... HOLDs the ball, WAITS for the defense to settle and seal open lanes and players.... ABSOLUTE crap house show.
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Re: Game 13: Orlando Magic at Phoenix Suns, Friday, November 10th, 7PM MST 

Post#229 » by thamadkant » Sat Nov 11, 2017 7:27 am

JMac1 wrote:Gordon with a shot is dangerous....Hope JJ can improve like that.

Gordon is main candidate for Most Improve.. he is shooting 60% from 3pt the last 2-3 weeks.

Vucevic too... 3pt machine now...

Brook Lopez...Cousins etc.

hence, I think Josh will get better there... assuming Suns hire good shooting coaches.
Also, hence I like Okafor.. young enough to develop a long range shot... combined with an elite paint game could be a very good big man.
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Post#231 » by Saberestar » Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:51 am

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Let this guy and his lousy ass come off the damn bench.

Yet another reason Booker should protect his financial interests and request a trade. This is the Power Forward the Suns have designated to start next to Booker. Chriss is a joke as a starting PF.

I agree about Chriss. He is not an starting player in this league and probably he is not even a rotation player, so I do not understand why he starts.

Triano said that our players need to earn his minutes. This is a bad example. We have lost 5 games in a row, and he has played bad on any single game (fouls, bad position, TOs...)why not prove other players at PF?
Bender, Dudley or Jackson...can not be worse.

I do not agree about Booker. For Booker's financial interests is perfect to be on a bad team because he is the best player and he is gonna get the max contract absolutely for sure.
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Re: Game 13: Orlando Magic at Phoenix Suns, Friday, November 10th, 7PM MST 

Post#232 » by jcsunsfan » Sat Nov 11, 2017 12:32 pm

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JDLAW wrote:This game was horrible. I very seldom talk about referees, it’s a difficult job but we don’t help at all. In this game the referees were poor and every close call went against the Suns. That exchange at the end of the 3rd where Booker was called for a charge, followed by a blocking foul at the other end, were 2 terrible calls. This gets in the collective head of a young team.

There is no movement in the Suns offense. That makes it easy to defend them – just stand next to your player. There is little passing. I saw nearly a dozen times where James and Ulis dribbled up the court and took a shot without anyone else touching the ball. There was another half a dozen times where Ulis or James just dribbled out the clock head down, going in circles, and then forcing up a shot. Way too much dribbling and way to many possessions where there were 0-1 pass.

The Suns had a pathetic 13 total assists. Booker had 5 assists in the game, and it could have been 10 if the others on the team could finish the play. In contrast, our "point guards" Ulis and James combined for 5 assists. And while it doesn’t count as an assist he made passes that led to scoring through a foul. He played exactly the way he is supposed to. When double-teamed, he passed the ball to an open player. The ball never returned to him. His shooting wasn’t great tonight, but he only took 10 shots and none.

I saw multiple other passes from our point guards that were at Len’s or Warren’s ankles and passes going to open players on the perimeter that forced the player to reach or bend to receive thereby taking the player out of his rhythm.

Rather than just bitch about things, I’ll offer my 2 cents. Change the starters and rotations. Starters going forward should be; Booker, Jackson, Warren, Chriss and Len.



yup.


Suns and their obsession with scoring PGs is hurting the others develop.... I mean, it wouldnt be so bad if the scoring PGs are stars... but Ulis and James are for the lack of a better word ..terrible.

Booker as PG will work better, because he can launch a shot off the dribble, from the 3pt line or slash... he will keep defenses on their toes and jittery. Unlike James and Ulis, who dribble around... HOLDs the ball, WAITS for the defense to settle and seal open lanes and players.... ABSOLUTE crap house show.

You criticize for an obsession with scoring point guards and then support Booker at the point so he can score more. Seems kinda contradictory.

Ulis is not a scoring pg. it’s hard to find a true distributing pg these days, and if you do, it’s because they are poor shooters (Rubio). They tried to draft a distributor in Ball, wanted to trade for one in Brogdon. It’s not an obsession with scoring pg’s. It’s the inability to find a good distributor.


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Re: Game 13: Orlando Magic at Phoenix Suns, Friday, November 10th, 7PM MST 

Post#233 » by garrick » Sat Nov 11, 2017 2:16 pm

Kerrsed wrote:
garrick wrote:I think James is fine but he really is just a solid bench player in the mold of Eddie House.

Only issue I see with starting Jackson is his poor 3pt shooting but would be worth a shot I guess.


He's 35% for the season and 30% for the past 10 games (Tonights 0-4 really messed that % up).

His percentages are trending down but yeah could just be a slump, I do like his hustle he just needs to know when to pull back as his Eurostep layups get blocked once the defense gets set.

He would be beasting in a SSOL offense.
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Post#234 » by JMac1 » Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:09 pm

Kerrsed wrote:Ill say it once again, We need to quit with James/Ulis and run Booker at PG in that DWade role. He should have complete control of the ball and who ends up with it. He is our best shooter/scorer. He has that offensive game and is a legitimate threat. He is the face of the franchise. He is the team leader. Put the damn ball in his hands and let him work his magic. If he can score, he will. If he cant, that likely means he is being double teamed and i trust him getting the ball to the open man a hell of a lot more than i do James/Ulis.

These past 10 games or so i have really noticed that Booker gets a lack of touches. The ball should touch his hands every play, whether he shoots it or not. The main issue is that the defense has an easy time stifling our point guards and denying Booker the ball. Its not just the point guards, but almost all the other players besides Booker. The opposing teams D shuts them down so they can pass it to Booker. Either they double team the ball handler, or they have 2 guys on Booker himself. This is whats been happening as they are fine leaving Len somewhat unguarded around the FT line, or leaving Warren open from that corner 3 that he bricks 4 times a night, or slacking off on Bender at the 3 knowing that he is most likely going to be hesitant to shoot the ball and end up just passing it around the perimeter. The defense slacks off on all these guys in these spots and concentrates on denying Booker the ball.

So let him run the damn point and put the ball in his hands as soon as we inbound the ball. Its what Miami did with Wade and it worked WONDERS (And Wade wasnt even as good of a shooter as Booker, but he knew how to score, whether it was taking it to the rim and converting or drawing the contact).

When a team is having a hard time getting the ball to their star player, they have them run the point. Wade. Lebron. Westbrook. Harden. The guards that played next to them usually acted as a secondary ball handler, not the tradition PG role.

Booker/Jackson/Warren/Bender/Chriss <--- Or even replace Chris with Monroe once he comes back.


Stop making sense dummy (sarcasm). You should know by now that the Suns like to do things the nonsensical way....
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Post#235 » by JMac1 » Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:15 pm

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1UPZ wrote:
JDLAW wrote:This game was horrible. I very seldom talk about referees, it’s a difficult job but we don’t help at all. In this game the referees were poor and every close call went against the Suns. That exchange at the end of the 3rd where Booker was called for a charge, followed by a blocking foul at the other end, were 2 terrible calls. This gets in the collective head of a young team.

There is no movement in the Suns offense. That makes it easy to defend them – just stand next to your player. There is little passing. I saw nearly a dozen times where James and Ulis dribbled up the court and took a shot without anyone else touching the ball. There was another half a dozen times where Ulis or James just dribbled out the clock head down, going in circles, and then forcing up a shot. Way too much dribbling and way to many possessions where there were 0-1 pass.

The Suns had a pathetic 13 total assists. Booker had 5 assists in the game, and it could have been 10 if the others on the team could finish the play. In contrast, our "point guards" Ulis and James combined for 5 assists. And while it doesn’t count as an assist he made passes that led to scoring through a foul. He played exactly the way he is supposed to. When double-teamed, he passed the ball to an open player. The ball never returned to him. His shooting wasn’t great tonight, but he only took 10 shots and none.

I saw multiple other passes from our point guards that were at Len’s or Warren’s ankles and passes going to open players on the perimeter that forced the player to reach or bend to receive thereby taking the player out of his rhythm.

Rather than just bitch about things, I’ll offer my 2 cents. Change the starters and rotations. Starters going forward should be; Booker, Jackson, Warren, Chriss and Len.



yup.


Suns and their obsession with scoring PGs is hurting the others develop.... I mean, it wouldnt be so bad if the scoring PGs are stars... but Ulis and James are for the lack of a better word ..terrible.

Booker as PG will work better, because he can launch a shot off the dribble, from the 3pt line or slash... he will keep defenses on their toes and jittery. Unlike James and Ulis, who dribble around... HOLDs the ball, WAITS for the defense to settle and seal open lanes and players.... ABSOLUTE crap house show.

You criticize for an obsession with scoring point guards and then support Booker at the point so he can score more. Seems kinda contradictory.

Ulis is not a scoring pg. it’s hard to find a true distributing pg these days, and if you do, it’s because they are poor shooters (Rubio). They tried to draft a distributor in Ball, wanted to trade for one in Brogdon. It’s not an obsession with scoring pg’s. It’s the inability to find a good distributor.


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I And 1 this by mistake. 1Upz was saying playing Booker at the point would make the whole team better, not just allow Booker to score, however it would make scoring easy for Booker if need be and Booker should be getting more shots per game, which he is unable to do with what we have and have been doing as a team.
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Post#236 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:41 pm

I think it would be awful strange for Booker to be pissed at the FO. We are losing games primarily because the FO put their trust in him and the rest of these young guys (including Devin's BFF, Tyler) to be better than the prognosticators said they would be. And while they've got a long ways to go, they are clearly developing. And while we won't win a lot of games this year, we are still, IMO, clearly on the right path.

Book's gonna get the max here. He has his own team here. And in a couple years, it will be a winning team. Hopefully one day a championship team. The building blocks are here. We just haven't stacked them yet.

I'll keep preaching patience. I haven't liked every part of this ride, but no part of the end result has been unexpected so far -- with one exception. I expected Alex to be a piece of the puzzle. Oh well. Hopefully he fetches something in S&T this offseason.

P.S. Oh and one more last thing. I would be pissed if we had gone the Minny route and traded what for us became Dragan and Jackson for Jimmy Butler and surrounded our remaining youngs with market-priced vets. It looks good now. And hell, maybe they'll be able to add another piece to that core somehow in a couple years. But we haven't banked the whole future of the franchise on one player the way they have with KAT. We have a whole lot of young talent developing under our roof. And as of right now, considering that the Bucks have surrounded Giannis with only Brogdon, Parker and Maker, that only one of the Sixers' big three looks like a sure thing, I take this group over any other group in the league.
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Post#237 » by Bogyo » Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:14 pm

The Sixers big 3 only looks good until Embiid goes down. I know this can be said of all the teams in the league (ie: if their best player goes down they are toast), but Joel has significant injury risk (unlike KAT, Booker, Porzingis, Freak).
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Post#238 » by bwgood77 » Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:26 pm

Kerrsed wrote:Ill say it once again, We need to quit with James/Ulis and run Booker at PG in that DWade role. He should have complete control of the ball and who ends up with it. He is our best shooter/scorer. He has that offensive game and is a legitimate threat. He is the face of the franchise. He is the team leader. Put the damn ball in his hands and let him work his magic. If he can score, he will. If he cant, that likely means he is being double teamed and i trust him getting the ball to the open man a hell of a lot more than i do James/Ulis.

These past 10 games or so i have really noticed that Booker gets a lack of touches. The ball should touch his hands every play, whether he shoots it or not. The main issue is that the defense has an easy time stifling our point guards and denying Booker the ball. Its not just the point guards, but almost all the other players besides Booker. The opposing teams D shuts them down so they can pass it to Booker. Either they double team the ball handler, or they have 2 guys on Booker himself. This is whats been happening as they are fine leaving Len somewhat unguarded around the FT line, or leaving Warren open from that corner 3 that he bricks 4 times a night, or slacking off on Bender at the 3 knowing that he is most likely going to be hesitant to shoot the ball and end up just passing it around the perimeter. The defense slacks off on all these guys in these spots and concentrates on denying Booker the ball.

So let him run the damn point and put the ball in his hands as soon as we inbound the ball. Its what Miami did with Wade and it worked WONDERS (And Wade wasnt even as good of a shooter as Booker, but he knew how to score, whether it was taking it to the rim and converting or drawing the contact).

When a team is having a hard time getting the ball to their star player, they have them run the point. Wade. Lebron. Westbrook. Harden. The guards that played next to them usually acted as a secondary ball handler, not the tradition PG role.

Booker/Jackson/Warren/Bender/Chriss <--- Or even replace Chris with Monroe once he comes back.


As Lowe pointed out, Booker eventually would probably play better off ball, but that would be if we had a legit point guard. Regardless, he does need to touch it every posession within reason.

But with our current options, I'd be fine running him at the point right now given our other options. We can't have too much of James and Ulis not passing it at all. James has been fairly efficient lately but he's not really helping the development of our young guys.

But you mentioned "that if Booker can If he can score, he will. If he cant, that likely means he is being double teamed and i trust him getting the ball to the open man" which I agree with, but I still think he needs to initiate ball movement as well and run the team. Not just revert to iso ball himself. The other guys are just not initiating ball movement more. He will. But you have to take James and Ulis completely out at that point so it doesn't stop.

The only problem is that Book has been very turnover prone. James has not really been turnover prone...but he doesn't look for his teammates enough and eventually (if it hasn't already) it will carry over into how much the guys trust or want to play with James.

And Warren doesn't brick 4 3's a game. He's only shot 18 in 13 game. You're obviously not a Warren fan but you don't need to keep simply making things up to support some kind of case you want to make.
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Re: Game 13: Orlando Magic at Phoenix Suns, Friday, November 10th, 7PM MST 

Post#239 » by bwgood77 » Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:37 pm

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Kerrsed wrote:Ill say it once again, We need to quit with James/Ulis and run Booker at PG in that DWade role. He should have complete control of the ball and who ends up with it. He is our best shooter/scorer. He has that offensive game and is a legitimate threat. He is the face of the franchise. He is the team leader. Put the damn ball in his hands and let him work his magic. If he can score, he will. If he cant, that likely means he is being double teamed and i trust him getting the ball to the open man a hell of a lot more than i do James/Ulis.

These past 10 games or so i have really noticed that Booker gets a lack of touches. The ball should touch his hands every play, whether he shoots it or not. The main issue is that the defense has an easy time stifling our point guards and denying Booker the ball. Its not just the point guards, but almost all the other players besides Booker. The opposing teams D shuts them down so they can pass it to Booker. Either they double team the ball handler, or they have 2 guys on Booker himself. This is whats been happening as they are fine leaving Len somewhat unguarded around the FT line, or leaving Warren open from that corner 3 that he bricks 4 times a night, or slacking off on Bender at the 3 knowing that he is most likely going to be hesitant to shoot the ball and end up just passing it around the perimeter. The defense slacks off on all these guys in these spots and concentrates on denying Booker the ball.

So let him run the damn point and put the ball in his hands as soon as we inbound the ball. Its what Miami did with Wade and it worked WONDERS (And Wade wasnt even as good of a shooter as Booker, but he knew how to score, whether it was taking it to the rim and converting or drawing the contact).

When a team is having a hard time getting the ball to their star player, they have them run the point. Wade. Lebron. Westbrook. Harden. The guards that played next to them usually acted as a secondary ball handler, not the tradition PG role.

Booker/Jackson/Warren/Bender/Chriss <--- Or even replace Chris with Monroe once he comes back.


It's most definitely worth a shot running Booker as the PG. I mean, what can it hurt, we are losing badly anyway. He definitely needs the ball to either create for himself or others. Even on limited touches he usually finishes with the highest assist number for us. It's far too easy for teams to shut the offense down when all they really need to do is make sure Booker never touches the ball. Giving it to him in the backcourt makes sure that he touches the ball every possession.

I appreciate that James stepped in when the Bledsoe stuff went down, but I really don't think we should give him a multi-year contract. Ulis has struggled, but I'd much rather him as the backup if we did end up going with Booker at PG. I'm just tired of selfish hero ball. Young teams have a hard time passing when they get it though. I think they're too concentrated on their own game and not the team game.

Suns need to run practices hard to instill a system and who cares how tired their legs are for games as long as they are making strides towards fundamental team basketball with eyes on future seasons.


James might be a perfect microwave scorer off the bench. He's not the best starting pg to get your starters going.
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Re: Game 13: Orlando Magic at Phoenix Suns, Friday, November 10th, 7PM MST 

Post#240 » by TOO » Sat Nov 11, 2017 5:12 pm

Kerrsed wrote:
garrick wrote:I think James is fine but he really is just a solid bench player in the mold of Eddie House.

Only issue I see with starting Jackson is his poor 3pt shooting but would be worth a shot I guess.


He's 35% for the season and 30% for the past 10 games (Tonights 0-4 really messed that % up).


So in the instance the bulk example is bad? We've played what? 13 games now? :lol:

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