Michael Porter Jr.

[Rainwater]

Definitely an NBA player but not a number 1 pick, Not impressed. He is just really awkward. Wouldn't be shocked if his value fell as the NCAA season went along.

[Rainwater]

Tatum still went 3 as a player with athletic limitations and Porter is likely to put up better numbers.

Skill wise though they arent even close to similar players though.

Completely agree, Tatum is far more skillful than Porter.

[Dresden]

KD was much more fluid and agile at that age. Porter moves like current Lamarcus Aldridge. KD also always played with tenacity on both ends.. even when he was a poor defender. Porter literally only shows interest in isoing

Say What? Porter moves like a 30 yr old LMA? You need glasses.

[Dresden]

I don't know what it is but the amount of hate for Porter on here is crazy. He's about as sure a 25+ ppg NBA All Star as you will ever find and should easily be the #1 pick at this point.

I agree- he has all the tools you could ask for in a guy his size. And with his shooting ability, it's hard not to see him scoring very easily in the nba. He DOES possess good footwork and a variety of moves to create space to get his shot off. He should be a very good rebounder as well. I think he'll be a pure scorer in the nba- not a guy like Lebron or whoever, that can run an offense as well as dominate on the defensive end. But he should be a Carmelo type scorer, or maybe a poor man's KD.

[Marcus]

I don't know what it is but the amount of hate for Porter on here is crazy. He's about as sure a 25+ ppg NBA All Star as you will ever find and should easily be the #1 pick at this point.

I agree- he has all the tools you could ask for in a guy his size. And with his shooting ability, it's hard not to see him scoring very easily in the nba. He DOES possess good footwork and a variety of moves to create space to get his shot off. He should be a very good rebounder as well. I think he'll be a pure scorer in the nba- not a guy like Lebron or whoever, that can run an offense as well as dominate on the defensive end. But he should be a Carmelo type scorer, or maybe a poor man's KD.

that's definitely what we're hoping for. I think he's clearly the best scorer in this draft. Ideally he should be able to get buckets in a ton of ways in the league. Needs to find a position to guard and his rebounding needs to be legit.

anybody know how long he's going to be out for if at all?

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

His little brother Jontay is also very good.

He already plays like an NBA player.

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[doordoor123]

His little brother Jontay is also very good.

He already plays like an NBA player.

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He won't be able to slide well enough in the NBA. He could probably get into better shape though.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Hope he becomes better than Tobias Harris.

[akhan786]

He seems rather stiff. I think it has to do with his unique body type where his center of gravity is a lot higher than say a guy like Boogie. He physically looks like an oversized version of Lonzo.

[delfam]

Haven't read the whole thread, but Otto Porter seems like a decent comparison.

[Duke4life831]

Haven't read the whole thread, but Otto Porter seems like a decent comparison.

I think theyre pretty different. Otto Porter was more of a skilled guy that lacks athleticism, while Michael Porter is a great athlete that lacks skill. Michael Porter is a tremendous finisher because of his size and bounce, he also has a really nice looking jumpshot (results still arent great yet but really little to no doubt the dude will be a really good shooter). The big question marks with Michael Porter is everything in between, he isnt the most agile guy laterally and his handles are pretty basic, how is he going to create for himself consistently. Otto's biggest question marks coming out was how high was his ceiling because the lack of athleticism.

[bennjuiced34]

I know some believe that Porter is going through a lot of what other top prospects do...unwarranted criticism and their games put under the microscope to find minor flaws...and I could be wrong here, but I think the questions on Porter are legitimate.

I don't see consensus best prospect. I think he's a talented wing scorer with ability on the glass and the potential to develop defensively. But positional value also comes into play here. Doncic is not only heralded because he's really freaking good, but also because of his position. There's a premium on his position and skill set.

Some will say position doesn't matter...but it does and it should. Then again, Porter could come out and make me look stupid. But that's how I see it right now.

[bennjuiced34]

Haven't read the whole thread, but Otto Porter seems like a decent comparison.

I think theyre pretty different. Otto Porter was more of a skilled guy that lacks athleticism, while Michael Porter is a great athlete that lacks skill. Michael Porter is a tremendous finisher because of his size and bounce, he also has a really nice looking jumpshot (results still arent great yet but really little to no doubt the dude will be a really good shooter). The big question marks with Michael Porter is everything in between, he isnt the most agile guy laterally and his handles are pretty basic, how is he going to create for himself consistently. Otto's biggest question marks coming out was how high was his ceiling because the lack of athleticism.

This is an issue too. And that's not to say Porter couldn't develop his handle, or footwork, or toolbox this season. If he does, that'll force me to re-evaluate him. But, right now those criticisms are warranted.

I want some sugar with my coffee. I don't think think there's a generational prospect in this class, but I'm still looking for unique players with skill sets that can change games at premium positions. Just don't see it with Porter yet.

[Duke4life831]

Haven't read the whole thread, but Otto Porter seems like a decent comparison.

I think theyre pretty different. Otto Porter was more of a skilled guy that lacks athleticism, while Michael Porter is a great athlete that lacks skill. Michael Porter is a tremendous finisher because of his size and bounce, he also has a really nice looking jumpshot (results still arent great yet but really little to no doubt the dude will be a really good shooter). The big question marks with Michael Porter is everything in between, he isnt the most agile guy laterally and his handles are pretty basic, how is he going to create for himself consistently. Otto's biggest question marks coming out was how high was his ceiling because the lack of athleticism.

This is an issue too. And that's not to say Porter couldn't develop his handle, or footwork, or toolbox this season. If he does, that'll force me to re-evaluate him. But, right now those criticisms are warranted.

I want some sugar with my coffee. I don't think think there's a generational prospect in this class, but I'm still looking for unique players with skill sets that can change games at premium positions. Just don't see it with Porter yet.

Ive said it for awhile, but I do see a lot of similarities between Porter and Harrison Barnes. Porter is the taller player while Barnes had the better jumpshot. Now the height difference maybe enough to make the difference, Porter is 2 inches taller and has a bigger wingspan and a much much better standing reach. I just think the 2 of them are very similar because of the great straight line and vertical athleticism plus their jumpers, but both have the basic handle and not much wiggle to their game. To me that has been the thing that has prevented Barnes from ever taking the next step, not sure if Porter can overcome that.

For your 2nd part, it all depends on what you mean for a generational talent. Are we talking top 5 all time, then ya I will say probably not. But I definitely think there are guys that have the potential to be franchise players. What if Bagley's 3pt shot becomes consistent, thats a truly scary good player. What if Ayton's motor never becomes an issue and he goes all out defensively, thats a scary player and could easily be a top big in the NBA. What if Bamba becomes Gobert but with a 3pt shot, what if Doncic becomes this offensive dynamo that just picks apart all the holes in the defense with his passing and kills teams for sagging off of him out on the perimeter.

None of these guys are guaranteed superstars, I dont think there is a Lebron, Oden (if stayed healthy), Anthony Davis. Those guys were just cant miss except for injuries. All these guys in this draft have a lot more question marks than those guys, but I think there are a few guys that have the potential to be franchise perennial All NBA team guys.

[bennjuiced34]

I think theyre pretty different. Otto Porter was more of a skilled guy that lacks athleticism, while Michael Porter is a great athlete that lacks skill. Michael Porter is a tremendous finisher because of his size and bounce, he also has a really nice looking jumpshot (results still arent great yet but really little to no doubt the dude will be a really good shooter). The big question marks with Michael Porter is everything in between, he isnt the most agile guy laterally and his handles are pretty basic, how is he going to create for himself consistently. Otto's biggest question marks coming out was how high was his ceiling because the lack of athleticism.

This is an issue too. And that's not to say Porter couldn't develop his handle, or footwork, or toolbox this season. If he does, that'll force me to re-evaluate him. But, right now those criticisms are warranted.

I want some sugar with my coffee. I don't think think there's a generational prospect in this class, but I'm still looking for unique players with skill sets that can change games at premium positions. Just don't see it with Porter yet.

Ive said it for awhile, but I do see a lot of similarities between Porter and Harrison Barnes. Porter is the taller player while Barnes had the better jumpshot. Now the height difference maybe enough to make the difference, Porter is 2 inches taller and has a bigger wingspan and a much much better standing reach. I just think the 2 of them are very similar because of the great straight line and vertical athleticism plus their jumpers, but both have the basic handle and not much wiggle to their game. To me that has been the thing that has prevented Barnes from ever taking the next step, not sure if Porter can overcome that.

For your 2nd part, it all depends on what you mean for a generational talent. Are we talking top 5 all time, then ya I will say probably not. But I definitely think there are guys that have the potential to be franchise players. What if Bagley's 3pt shot becomes consistent, thats a truly scary good player. What if Ayton's motor never becomes an issue and he goes all out defensively, thats a scary player and could easily be a top big in the NBA. What if Bamba becomes Gobert but with a 3pt shot, what if Doncic becomes this offensive dynamo that just picks apart all the holes in the defense with his passing and kills teams for sagging off of him out on the perimeter.

None of these guys are guaranteed superstars, I dont think there is a Lebron, Oden (if stayed healthy), Anthony Davis. Those guys were just cant miss except for injuries. All these guys in this draft have a lot more question marks than those guys, but I think there are a few guys that have the potential to be franchise perennial All NBA team guys.

Was more alluding to no AD or LeBron's, which quite frankly is usually every class. At this stage, I'd take this top 5 over last year. The problem is the quality falls off pretty dramatically after that.

I think right now you could make an argument for any one of the 5 as the #1 player in the class. They're close.

[Duke4life831]

This is an issue too. And that's not to say Porter couldn't develop his handle, or footwork, or toolbox this season. If he does, that'll force me to re-evaluate him. But, right now those criticisms are warranted.

I want some sugar with my coffee. I don't think think there's a generational prospect in this class, but I'm still looking for unique players with skill sets that can change games at premium positions. Just don't see it with Porter yet.

Ive said it for awhile, but I do see a lot of similarities between Porter and Harrison Barnes. Porter is the taller player while Barnes had the better jumpshot. Now the height difference maybe enough to make the difference, Porter is 2 inches taller and has a bigger wingspan and a much much better standing reach. I just think the 2 of them are very similar because of the great straight line and vertical athleticism plus their jumpers, but both have the basic handle and not much wiggle to their game. To me that has been the thing that has prevented Barnes from ever taking the next step, not sure if Porter can overcome that.

For your 2nd part, it all depends on what you mean for a generational talent. Are we talking top 5 all time, then ya I will say probably not. But I definitely think there are guys that have the potential to be franchise players. What if Bagley's 3pt shot becomes consistent, thats a truly scary good player. What if Ayton's motor never becomes an issue and he goes all out defensively, thats a scary player and could easily be a top big in the NBA. What if Bamba becomes Gobert but with a 3pt shot, what if Doncic becomes this offensive dynamo that just picks apart all the holes in the defense with his passing and kills teams for sagging off of him out on the perimeter.

None of these guys are guaranteed superstars, I dont think there is a Lebron, Oden (if stayed healthy), Anthony Davis. Those guys were just cant miss except for injuries. All these guys in this draft have a lot more question marks than those guys, but I think there are a few guys that have the potential to be franchise perennial All NBA team guys.

Was more alluding to no AD or LeBron's, which quite frankly is usually every class. At this stage, I'd take this top 5 over last year. The problem is the quality falls off pretty dramatically after that.

I think right now you could make an argument for any one of the 5 as the #1 player in the class. They're close.

As it stands right now, I would have to probably go back to the 2008 draft to where I would take a different top 5 over this top 5. Even though 2 of the top 5 were busts with Beasley and Mayo, both guys looked like studs coming out of college that year. I actually think this draft could end up pretty similar to the 2008 draft, star studded top 5, then a good drop off after that. Then a lot of busts and a couple good picks to fill out that draft.

And again ya there is no AD where there is basically no scenario he doesnt become a stud, but I think the #1 pick in this draft will be the strongest #1 pick since AD and I dont see anyone challenging that as of right now in the 2019 or 2020 draft. So maybe not generational talent, but Id give it decade talent haha. I think it has guys with the highest ceiling since AD and has the most stacked top 5 since 2008.

[reanimator]

Haven't read the whole thread, but Otto Porter seems like a decent comparison.

I think theyre pretty different. Otto Porter was more of a skilled guy that lacks athleticism, while Michael Porter is a great athlete that lacks skill. Michael Porter is a tremendous finisher because of his size and bounce, he also has a really nice looking jumpshot (results still arent great yet but really little to no doubt the dude will be a really good shooter). The big question marks with Michael Porter is everything in between, he isnt the most agile guy laterally and his handles are pretty basic, how is he going to create for himself consistently. Otto's biggest question marks coming out was how high was his ceiling because the lack of athleticism.

There is nothing Otto does that MPJ cannot replicate on the offensive side of the ball. Otto wasn't some shifty dude at Georgetown.

Thats more of a mentality thing than a physical/skill one. Will MPJ learn to play off ball to the extent Otto has and be economical when he does have the ball?

The Barnes comp doesn't make sense given the rather large gap in rebounding ability.

[Dresden]

I see more skills in Porter than in Barnes. And if Barnes could shoot better, he WOULD be a borderline all-star in the nba, at minimum. Barnes also doesn't rebound particularly well, in fact he doesn't do anything all that well at the pro level. If that turns out to be the case with Porter, obviously he'll be a bust. But he could just as easily turn into a not-quite-as-good version of Kevin Durant. I don't see him being that dominant, because he doesn't have Durant's 7'4" wingspan. But I think he has an excellent chance to be a top 10 scorer in the nba for years to come- maybe similar to Melo.

[MEGAQUIB]

Porter looks like the clear #1 to me. Exactly what teams should want out of their PF moving forward. Should be able to bully 3’s and is too fast for most 4’s. He would be the perfect fit next to a rim protecting center.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Let's see him play 3 minutes first.