Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 3

[Frank Lee]

All these proposals seem borderline desperate and won’t really yield anything but the need for yet another deal/move.

We have a pathetic post presence right now, and have acquired a player who can solve that problem. Monroe will make our PGs better as they will have a legit scorer to feed. He’s a good passer too. It wasn’t too long ago he and Drummond were dominating with double doubles each night.

F the time line.... let’s see if this guy is as good as he once was advertised and if so keep the big moose.

I’m getting tired of McRevolvingDoor handing off legit talent for gd punk kids who don’t know how to play and might not ever get it.

[Kerrsed]

My fingers are crossed that Dinwiddie starts balling out of his mind as the starter for Brooklyn. If he does for the next few weeks while Russell is sidelined with a knee injury, maybe just maybe we can find a way to steal DLO.

Monroe/Heat 1st for Russell/Mozgov

Just wishful thinking i guess.

[Frank Lee]

We had our chance at DLo but McD is infatuated with drafting

[Kerrsed]

I’m getting tired of McRevolvingDoor handing off legit talent for gd punk kids who don’t know how to play and might not ever get it.

I dont know why, but everytime i read your posts, its in this voice:

[Kerrsed]

We had our chance at DLo but McD is infatuated with drafting

We did? Weird, i dont seem to remember any news whatsoever saying that that package deal was offered to us. Dont really remember any rumored talk about Russell being trade, kinda came out of the blue, as Clarkson was the one they were trying to trade to make room for Ball.

EDIT** Just looked online, guess there was a rumor that Russel was being shopped for a top 10 pick about 24 hours before he was actually traded.

[bwgood77]

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I've always thought George Hill would be a great guy to have but he makes $19 million a year and has two more years on his contract after this I believe and on top of that he has been playing like crap this year. Like a complete turnaround from last year. I don't know if it's just being on the Kings or what.

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George Hill and Kosta Koufos for Brandon Knight and Greg Monroe?

Costs us an additional $15 million next year and $7 million the year after that. Knight's younger, maybe they'd prefer him.

Personally I'd rather not. In any case, I don't deal for George unless Brandon's going the other way.

In 2019/2020 - the Suns actually would save money because they can waive Hill and Koustos only costs 8m. But like you said, the Kings saved a lot of money next year.

2017/2018: Monroe /Knight is 31.5 compared to Kosta/Hill at 28m
2018/19: Knight at 14 compared to the 29m
2020: Knight is 14; Koufos /Hill is 9

So in total: Kings pay about 61m; Suns would pay about 66

I think I do it because in year 3 - you are getting cost savings when you need it. And next year ,they will need to meet the cap floor anyway. Hill would be a good stop gap - seems like a doable deal. Also if the Suns draft a PG with their two picks this year - this will give that guy a year window next year to learn under Hill before you waive Hill.[/quote]

At first I thought that looked terrible, but I didn't realize only $1 million was guaranteed in 19-20 for Hill. He would be the perfect vet PG to play with Booker and Warren/Jackson. He really helped Utah last year. I didn't think he'd been good this year but he is shooting 47% from 3 and shot over 40% from 3 the last couple of years too. We desperately need another good shooter, and at the PG spot it would be great. Learned from Pop...Pop loved him, was important in Indiana and then Utah.

Koufos is tough to take back but I guess he expires in 2019, and that's if he picks up his option. We'd basically be maxed out for this summer but we won't find a better PG for the team than Hill in my estimation. I would strongly consider. I really think Hill would help take pressure off Booker/Warren and be a stabilizer and good vet.

[bwgood77]

My fingers are crossed that Dinwiddie starts balling out of his mind as the starter for Brooklyn. If he does for the next few weeks while Russell is sidelined with a knee injury, maybe just maybe we can find a way to steal DLO.

Monroe/Heat 1st for Russell/Mozgov

Just wishful thinking i guess.

Zero chance. They had no way to get good young players so they took on horrible contracts to get guys like D Lo and picks to take Caris LeVert and I think they have one next draft for taking on Carroll.

Basically they'd paid $48 million for the right to take on Russell and his contract. It's not that often you can get a top 3 pick but LA put it on the table to clear cap space. That's pretty rare.

[BobbieL]

George Hill and Kosta Koufos for Brandon Knight and Greg Monroe?

Costs us an additional $15 million next year and $7 million the year after that. Knight's younger, maybe they'd prefer him.

Personally I'd rather not. In any case, I don't deal for George unless Brandon's going the other way.

In 2019/2020 - the Suns actually would save money because they can waive Hill and Koustos only costs 8m. But like you said, the Kings saved a lot of money next year.

2017/2018: Monroe /Knight is 31.5 compared to Kosta/Hill at 28m
2018/19: Knight at 14 compared to the 29m
2020: Knight is 14; Koufos /Hill is 9

So in total: Kings pay about 61m; Suns would pay about 66

I think I do it because in year 3 - you are getting cost savings when you need it. And next year ,they will need to meet the cap floor anyway. Hill would be a good stop gap - seems like a doable deal. Also if the Suns draft a PG with their two picks this year - this will give that guy a year window next year to learn under Hill before you waive Hill.

At first I thought that looked terrible, but I didn't realize only $1 million was guaranteed in 19-20 for Hill. He would be the perfect vet PG to play with Booker and Warren/Jackson. He really helped Utah last year. I didn't think he'd been good this year but he is shooting 47% from 3 and shot over 40% from 3 the last couple of years too. We desperately need another good shooter, and at the PG spot it would be great. Learned from Pop...Pop loved him, was important in Indiana and then Utah.

Koufos is tough to take back but I guess he expires in 2019, and that's if he picks up his option. We'd basically be maxed out for this summer but we won't find a better PG for the team than Hill in my estimation. I would strongly consider. I really think Hill would help take pressure off Booker/Warren and be a stabilizer and good vet.

I am not sure - for the rest of 18 and the 18/19 season, there is a better use of Monroes contract than Hill if you can move Knight for Koufos. Many of the deals as mentioned - have terrible three years left. Koufos is not bad in year 3 plus with Len possibly on the move this summer, decent insurance for the 5 spot.

Not saying its the best deal - but I have seen worse mentioned

[jredsaz]

My fingers are crossed that Dinwiddie starts balling out of his mind as the starter for Brooklyn. If he does for the next few weeks while Russell is sidelined with a knee injury, maybe just maybe we can find a way to steal DLO.

Monroe/Heat 1st for Russell/Mozgov

Just wishful thinking i guess.

Man I was hoping we could grab Dinwiddie for Bled. DLo is long gone. Brooklyn took the money and ran cause that was a heist. They won't give him up.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Wait 2 years and get Lonzo Ball for the Milwaukee pick.

[Downtown]

My fingers are crossed that Dinwiddie starts balling out of his mind as the starter for Brooklyn. If he does for the next few weeks while Russell is sidelined with a knee injury, maybe just maybe we can find a way to steal DLO.

Monroe/Heat 1st for Russell/Mozgov

Just wishful thinking i guess.

Hi. Blazers fan. Ever since you traded Bledsoe I thought that you should try for Dinwiddie. But that's before Russel went out.

[KLEON]

I'd trade for Clarkson. How do we get them to throw in Randle as well?

For some reason I think he's a head case

[darealjuice]

The good thing about the point guard situation is that there is no rush. There's nothing wrong with letting our young guys play this season out and grow under Triano, and having a top draft pick could be particularly huge for us this year with how strong the top 5 is. Keep in mind that we have 7 first round picks over the next 4 years with one of the youngest cores in the league. There's no way we aren't going to be wheeling and dealing going forward, and you can bet that a stud point guard is on McD's wish list. No one appears to be available now, but it's only a matter of time til someone is, and there aren't a lot of teams in need of a point guard that can beat an offer we put down.

[Qwigglez]

Trade Chriss, both Miami picks and Bucks pick for D'Lo. Then go after Boogie Cousins in the offseason. We should have enough fire power to convince him to play for us since the Pelicans will be the only playoff caliber team who can offer him the max.

Russell/Booker/Warren/Bender/Boogie
Ulis/Knight/Jackson/Alan/Chandler

[thamadkant]

The ideal guards next to Booker are;

- Bradley
- Caldwell Pope
- Wall (Booker becomes more off the ball)

Defense and super athletic guards with size who can switch to either guard spots and defend well... play off the ball


D-Lo is not being traded by Nets... they need to rebuild and he is a corner stone... he is their Booker.... its crazy to think Nets will give up their franchise player.

[Blackification]

I feel like the Chriss/Bender draft is going to come back and bite us in the ass. Looking back at it, yes it was a terrible draft so far, but picking two young players around the same age that play the same position? To what hope that either one pans out? Ignoring the fact that we traded up to draft Chriss. My guess is this going to lead to another personnel miscalculation by McD were we lose one of these two guys for nothing. At this point i'd rather have Bender than Chriss.

Also you can forget any free agents signing here unless they get overpayed. Booker said he got 50 texts from players around the league (i'm sure its not an accurate number) but it does show the general perception of the players is that the people in charge have no idea what the **** they are doing. At best we can hope for another eric gordon situation where we overpay for a guy, but given our record and infatuation with tanking and trading away anyone who should actually be on an NBA court, we aren't getting any high level talent.

McD picked his poison, he put all his eggs into the basket of building through the draft, he tried to make the big trades and failed, he tried to make the big free agent splashes and failed at that too. I don't see either of the later two happening any time soon, unless he hits some jackpots in the upcoming drafts.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

The worst thing about losing to the Lakers is having to read **** like this for several days.

Can't wait for the next time we win two in a row and everyone laments how we'll lose out on Ayton/Bamba.

You guys.

[Blackification]

The worst thing about losing to the Lakers is having to read **** like this for several days.

Can't wait for the next time we win two in a row and everyone laments how we'll lose out on Ayton/Bamba.

You guys.

we won't pick high enough for either of those guys anyway, no one is signing here if we keep trading away nba talent for draft picks and have nothing to show for it

[jcsunsfan]

Wait 2 years and get Lonzo Ball for the Milwaukee pick.

Nah. Get Lonzo Ball for taking back some silly salary.

[jcsunsfan]

We lost to the Lakers. No biggee. I hate the Lakers, but the rebuild is more important right now. I want the team to win, but I am happy with Booker's performance and with Bender's game. We clearly don't have a real pg yet. It is also clear that Len is just not going to make it. I am not going to fret over picks that don't work out. It happens for every GM. You just have to hit some of them.