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Re: RTT IV: All Hail Jiren The Gray 

Post#1301 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:34 pm

Jersey Generals wrote:I swear, if Rey's parents have been revealed in anything but a movie, I'm going to flip. Spoilers of Battlefront 2 in regards to a Rey THEORY below.

Spoiler:
Iden and Del being Rey's parents? Del Rey books, Del and Rey, damn it, if she's not a Skywalker I think I may actually be done with the Saga films and would think them just as bad as the prequels.



Spoiler:
Disney would have to be really crazy if they did that on purpose. I don't play the games either so I have no idea who these people are.


Spoiler:
I don't necessarily think Rey being a Skywalker is that important tbh. However I've always had a feeling that she's connected to or is somehow the reincarnation of Darth Vader based on the scene from Force Awakens where she starts tripping out after she touches the light saber and sees visions from Cloud City. How would she even know about that when that was years before she was born?


I'm not as versed in the series lore so I'm probably missing something, but she's an interesting character nonetheless. Her, Finn and Poe really drew me back into the series, I hope they explore Poe's character more in the new one coming up. I detest Kylo Ren. :lol: (his voice is really cool though).
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Re: RTT IV: All Hail Jiren The Gray 

Post#1302 » by CalamityX12 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:34 pm

Jersey Generals wrote:I swear, if Rey's parents have been revealed in anything but a movie, I'm going to flip. Spoilers of Battlefront 2 in regards to a Rey THEORY below.

Spoiler:
Iden and Del being Rey's parents? Del Rey books, Del and Rey, damn it, if she's not a Skywalker I think I may actually be done with the Saga films and would think them just as bad as the prequels.

Spoiler:
guess waiting for the game will be pointless? lol still want it for xmas!

but yea idk those names... would be let down if not a skywalker just because the vast majority of fans(me too) thought it be skywalker or someone we know!
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Re: RTT IV: All Hail Jiren The Gray 

Post#1303 » by CalamityX12 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:36 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
Jersey Generals wrote:I swear, if Rey's parents have been revealed in anything but a movie, I'm going to flip. Spoilers of Battlefront 2 in regards to a Rey THEORY below.

Spoiler:
Iden and Del being Rey's parents? Del Rey books, Del and Rey, damn it, if she's not a Skywalker I think I may actually be done with the Saga films and would think them just as bad as the prequels.




Spoiler:
I don't necessarily think Rey being a Skywalker is that important tbh. However I've always had a feeling that she's connected to or is somehow the reincarnation of Darth Vader based on the scene from Force Awakens where she starts tripping out after she touches the light saber and sees visions from Cloud City. How would she even know about that when that was years before she was born?


I'm not as versed in the series lore so I'm probably missing something, but she's an interesting character nonetheless. Her, Finn and Poe really drew me back into the series, I hope they explore Poe's character more in the new one coming up. I detest Kylo Ren. :lol: (his voice is really cool though).

wrap that first part in spoilers MDB,!!!!

(i read the spoiler too but some may haven't)
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Re: RTT IV: All Hail Jiren The Gray 

Post#1304 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:37 pm

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Re: RTT IV: All Hail Jiren The Gray 

Post#1305 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:38 pm

CalamityX12 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Jersey Generals wrote:I swear, if Rey's parents have been revealed in anything but a movie, I'm going to flip. Spoilers of Battlefront 2 in regards to a Rey THEORY below.

Spoiler:
Iden and Del being Rey's parents? Del Rey books, Del and Rey, damn it, if she's not a Skywalker I think I may actually be done with the Saga films and would think them just as bad as the prequels.



Spoiler:
Disney would have to be really crazy if they did that on purpose. I don't play the games either so I have no idea who these people are.


Spoiler:
I don't necessarily think Rey being a Skywalker is that important tbh. However I've always had a feeling that she's connected to or is somehow the reincarnation of Darth Vader based on the scene from Force Awakens where she starts tripping out after she touches the light saber and sees visions from Cloud City. How would she even know about that when that was years before she was born?


I'm not as versed in the series lore so I'm probably missing something, but she's an interesting character nonetheless. Her, Finn and Poe really drew me back into the series, I hope they explore Poe's character more in the new one coming up. I detest Kylo Ren. :lol: (his voice is really cool though).

wrap that first part in spoilers MDB,!!!!

(i read the spoiler too but some may haven't)


Wait where did i spoil?? point it out so i can edit quickly :lol: :lol:
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Re: RTT IV: All Hail Jiren The Gray 

Post#1306 » by CalamityX12 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:42 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:

Spoiler:
I don't necessarily think Rey being a Skywalker is that important tbh. However I've always had a feeling that she's connected to or is somehow the reincarnation of Darth Vader based on the scene from Force Awakens where she starts tripping out after she touches the light saber and sees visions from Cloud City. How would she even know about that when that was years before she was born?


I'm not as versed in the series lore so I'm probably missing something, but she's an interesting character nonetheless. Her, Finn and Poe really drew me back into the series, I hope they explore Poe's character more in the new one coming up. I detest Kylo Ren. :lol: (his voice is really cool though).

wrap that first part in spoilers MDB,!!!!

(i read the spoiler too but some may haven't)


Wait where did i spoil?? point it out so i can edit quickly :lol: :lol:

LOL
Spoiler:
this part "Disney would have to be really crazy if they did that on purpose. I don't play the games either so I have no idea who these people are" implies its not someone we watched in the movies since everyone knows those characters LOL
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Re: RTT IV: All Hail Jiren The Gray 

Post#1307 » by CalamityX12 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:43 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Image

GOTENKS CONFIRMED!!!!!!!! :rock: :rock: :rock: LETS GO SUPER GHOST KAMIKAZE ATTACK!!! DYNAMITE KICK!! GALACTIC DONUTS!!!

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Hahaha my dudes!!

lol nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but Kid Buu looks sooooo tempting there! whooohooooooo
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Re: RTT IV: All Hail Jiren The Gray 

Post#1308 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:44 pm

CalamityX12 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:wrap that first part in spoilers MDB,!!!!

(i read the spoiler too but some may haven't)


Wait where did i spoil?? point it out so i can edit quickly :lol: :lol:

LOL
Spoiler:
this part "Disney would have to be really crazy if they did that on purpose. I don't play the games either so I have no idea who these people are" implies its not someone we watched in the movies since everyone knows those characters LOL


fixed. you may want to clean up your quoting of me now lol
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Re: RTT IV: All Hail Jiren The Gray 

Post#1309 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:46 pm

CalamityX12 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:Image

GOTENKS CONFIRMED!!!!!!!! :rock: :rock: :rock: LETS GO SUPER GHOST KAMIKAZE ATTACK!!! DYNAMITE KICK!! GALACTIC DONUTS!!!

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Hahaha my dudes!!

lol nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but Kid Buu looks sooooo tempting there! whooohooooooo


hell yeah Kid Buu is probably going to have insane combos.

Okay so that covers the saiyan saga, freeza saga, androids saga, and majin buu saga with who has been released so far.

Give us Lord Beerus, Goku Black w/ Zamasu and Hit PLEASE and this game will be perfect at launch
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Re: RTT IV: All Hail Jiren The Gray 

Post#1310 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:52 pm

Gotenks, Kid Buu, and Adult Gohan will be playable in Dragon Ball FighterZ, the latest issue of V-Jump reveals.

Gotenks’ Meteor special attack is “Charging Ultra Buu Buu Volleyball.” While Gotenks’ partner in performing this technique is Piccolo in the original work, the scene will change depending on the partners you assemble in the game. Kid Buu’s special attack is “Planet Burst.” Adult Gohan can use “Unlock Potential” by consuming the Ki Gauge, the magnification of which changes depending on the amount of ki in the gauge. His special move is “Ultimate Kamehameha.”

Outside of the new characters, the magazine also reveals:

Shop – Players will be able to purchase character color variations and titles by spending the Zeni earned in battle.
Arcade Mode – Fight a predetermined number of battles. The route will change depending on whether you win or lose.
Dragon Ball FighterZ will launch for PlayStation 4, Xbox One, and PC on January 26 in the Americas and Europe, and February 1 in Japan.


Read more at https://gematsu.com/2017/11/dragon-ball-fighterz-adds-gotenks-kid-buu-adult-gohan#oJzQUjCjCvPcc0BW.99


Gotenks

Power: 3
Speed: 4
Reach: 1
Technique: 3
Energy: 4
Unleash special moves with extremely flashy names one after the next! Continuous attacks that put adults to shame, with powerful special moves that don’t fail to live up to their name. Use the “Super Ghost Kamikaze Attack” to summon ghosts that deal damage upon impact. Use the Meteor special attack “Charging Ultra Buu Buu Volleyball” to imprison your opponent within multiple rings in the shape of a ball. From there, one of your team members will jump in and start playing volleyball. Finish it off with a spike! The scenes for some of Gotenks’ special moves will change depending on the combination of team members. :onfire: :onfire: :onfire: :onfire: :onfire:

Kid Buu

Power: 4
Speed: 4
Reach: 3
Technique: 4
Energy: 4

Kid Buu has tricky attacks that make use of his elastic body. Since he has both power and speed, he can be a troublesome foe. He has unpredictable movements, such as stretching into the shape of a ball. His Meteor special attack is “Planet Burst”—that attack that destroys the earth. The opponent stands no chance once it hits. :o

Adult Gohan

Power: 3
Speed: 4
Reach: 3
Technique: 4
Energy: 2

Borrowing the power of Old Kai, Gohan unlocked his potential. With special attacks, his abilities have significantly improved. Use all of the Ki Gauge to unlock your potential! Depending on the amount of the Ki Gauge consumed, the magnification of Gohan’s abilities increase will change. Gohan’s Meteor special attack is “Ultimate Kamehameha.” Neither its power or number of hits can be compared to the regular Kamehameha.


Read more at https://gematsu.com/2017/11/dragon-ball-fighterz-adds-gotenks-kid-buu-adult-gohan#oJzQUjCjCvPcc0BW.99
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Re: RTT IV: All Hail Jiren The Gray 

Post#1311 » by CalamityX12 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:56 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
fixed. you may want to clean up your quoting of me now lol

LOL i think we're good!!!!!

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Re: RTT IV: All Hail Jiren The Gray 

Post#1312 » by CalamityX12 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:58 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:Image

GOTENKS CONFIRMED!!!!!!!! :rock: :rock: :rock: LETS GO SUPER GHOST KAMIKAZE ATTACK!!! DYNAMITE KICK!! GALACTIC DONUTS!!!

Image

Hahaha my dudes!!

lol nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but Kid Buu looks sooooo tempting there! whooohooooooo


hell yeah Kid Buu is probably going to have insane combos.

Okay so that covers the saiyan saga, freeza saga, androids saga, and majin buu saga with who has been released so far.

Give us Lord Beerus, Goku Black w/ Zamasu and Hit PLEASE and this game will be perfect at launch


Did they do the movies?
Would love to have Broly, Cooler, Janemba at least!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: RTT IV: All Hail Jiren The Gray 

Post#1313 » by CalamityX12 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:01 pm

MrDollarBills wrote: His Meteor special attack is “Planet Burst”—that attack that destroys the earth. The opponent stands no chance once it hits.


LOL well.... LOL

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Re: RTT IV: All Hail Jiren The Gray 

Post#1314 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:07 pm

Yeah I wonder how that works. If you use that move mid match, and the stage is destroyed I bet you teleport to Kaioshin's planet to resume fighting, just like how it happened in the anime. that's dope af if i'm correct

I dunno if they're going to delve into the movies.

It will be interesting if for the DLC they offer Brolly, or go to Kale/Chaulifa. The last two episodes provided a ton of material for the developers to build the character's move set.

I doubt we see Cooler or Janemba. Cooler is literally a Freeza clone so I doubt that as well.

Those DBZ movies were awesome, not because the stories were good, but because the fights were brutal. Vegeta got destroyed in damn near every movie
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Re: RTT IV: All Hail Jiren The Gray 

Post#1315 » by CalamityX12 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:21 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Yeah I wonder how that works. If you use that move mid match, and the stage is destroyed I bet you teleport to Kaioshin's planet to resume fighting, just like how it happened in the anime. that's dope af if i'm correct

I dunno if they're going to delve into the movies.

It will be interesting if for the DLC they offer Brolly, or go to Kale/Chaulifa. The last two episodes provided a ton of material for the developers to build the character's move set.

I doubt we see Cooler or Janemba. Cooler is literally a Freeza clone so I doubt that as well.

Those DBZ movies were awesome, not because the stories were good, but because the fights were brutal. Vegeta got destroyed in damn near every movie

Broly vs Kale would be epic to watch lol.

awww man, shooting down Cooler n Janemba... no bueno man.

Those movies were awesome... the fighting, the endings and the pace to it. So fun to watch, nothing was held back....

today's versions... yuck.
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Post#1316 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:27 pm

Yeah Battle of Gods and Return of Freeza were hot garbage. I'm only grateful for them because they were the test run to see if people wanted DragonBall back full time. It worked big time lol

I can't see the popularity dying down any time soon. They are about to air the Goku Black saga soon on Toonami which is great, someone made this fan trailer for it (brings back memories):

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Re: RTT IV: All Hail Jiren The Gray 

Post#1317 » by Jersey Generals » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:10 pm

CalamityX12 wrote:
Spoiler:
guess waiting for the game will be pointless? lol still want it for xmas!

but yea idk those names... would be let down if not a skywalker just because the vast majority of fans(me too) thought it be skywalker or someone we know!



Spoiler:
It would be a let down for me not necessarily because she's not a Skywalker (even though I want her to be), but it would be a let down because then half of her story in The Force Awakens is pointless. The questions about her past, the pining for her family, what the hell would be the point of any talk of her past if her parents are just two random ass Empire pilots that helped Luke out once that we didn't know before a video game? Literally zero point to that story. She HAS to be someone from a writing perspective, unless...and this is just a theory of mine...Kylo Ren is actually Luke's son and Han and Leia simply adopted him and there trying to make you focus on Rey's past to drop that bomb.


No spoilers in the above except for the Battlefront game and a theory of mine about Kylo. No facts or anything from the Last Jedi.
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Re: RTT IV: All Hail Jiren The Gray 

Post#1318 » by CalamityX12 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:52 pm

Jersey Generals wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:
Spoiler:
guess waiting for the game will be pointless? lol still want it for xmas!

but yea idk those names... would be let down if not a skywalker just because the vast majority of fans(me too) thought it be skywalker or someone we know!



Spoiler:
It would be a let down for me not necessarily because she's not a Skywalker (even though I want her to be), but it would be a let down because then half of her story in The Force Awakens is pointless. The questions about her past, the pining for her family, what the hell would be the point of any talk of her past if her parents are just two random ass Empire pilots that helped Luke out once that we didn't know before a video game? Literally zero point to that story. She HAS to be someone from a writing perspective, unless...and this is just a theory of mine...Kylo Ren is actually Luke's son and Han and Leia simply adopted him and there trying to make you focus on Rey's past to drop that bomb.


No spoilers in the above except for the Battlefront game and a theory of mine about Kylo. No facts or anything from the Last Jedi.

Spoiler:
haven't played the game, can't wait to, so idk how the story is. So apparently the two empire pilots referenced had the last name rey? or did one of them did? if so, was it female? perhaps Luke and her had it going on. Re reading you first post, perhaps, she is named after them? like Ben for Obi?

Yes, I am in agreement with you. I kind of have to feel it must be Skywalker(rey lineage). Is it predictable? yes? but I think thats fine in this story as it a continuation from Luke. Now that could be Ben aka Kylo Ren and him alone however there's something more, I feel these two are connected(or maybe were friends? in fact, how old is Rey vs Kylo? Obviously Kylo couldn't kill the jedis when he was 10! lol)

Idk about the force awakens being pointless, the loop hole would be that the force was awoken in her thus beginning a new era/war between the light and the dark("the jedi must end").

Poe Dameron is already a child of two pilots, I wouldn't think they'll double up? who knows.

Hmmm the ol switcheroo? Idk, I think Leia's words to han: "Luke is a Jedi, you're his father..." sealed it for me. It's still not out of the realm though cuz obviously adoption doesn't make a parent any less. If there's to be a twist, maybe Rey is the daughter that Leia and Han had but never mentioned? Still crossing my fingers its Luke's baby girl but if done right, I could be open to other possibility.

Sorry for the long reply, but didn't John Boyega or someone else mentioned that we seen Rey's parents in ep.7? or something like that?
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Post#1319 » by Jersey Generals » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:12 pm

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haven't played the game, can't wait to, so idk how the story is. So apparently the two empire pilots referenced had the last name rey? or did one of them did? if so, was it female? perhaps Luke and her had it going on. Re reading you first post, perhaps, she is named after them? like Ben for Obi?


Spoiler:
Nothing that concrete. They're two Empire pilots that turned to the Rebellion and were on Jakku. Not delving into the game itself since you are intending on playing it, but they have an unnamed daughter and Del, the father, was what led Kylo Ren to finding Lor San (the old dude) on Jakku. Del knows where Luke is, or rather, was the one holding the map to Luke until he gave it to Lor San. The theory is there because a) they never name the daughter, b) Iden (the mother) is a strong female character, and c) Del Rey Books are the publisher of the Star Wars books so Del being the father name and Rey being the daughter's name is a meta-shout out.


Spoiler:
Yes, I am in agreement with you. I kind of have to feel it must be Skywalker(rey lineage). Is it predictable? yes? but I think thats fine in this story as it a continuation from Luke. Now that could be Ben aka Kylo Ren and him alone however there's something more, I feel these two are connected(or maybe were friends? in fact, how old is Rey vs Kylo? Obviously Kylo couldn't kill the jedis when he was 10! lol)

Idk about the force awakens being pointless, the loop hole would be that the force was awoken in her thus beginning a new era/war between the light and the dark("the jedi must end").


Spoiler:
I'm not saying the movie was pointless, I'm saying having ANY mystery about Rey's parents would be pointless if her parents end up being two people we don't know about prior to the movie. They could have just said "Rey's parents died when she was young" and nothing would change. That's why it's pointless. It's **** writing, but apparently the actual triology wasn't planned when they filmed TFA so we might be looking at a storyline that was changed by Rian Johnson when he wrote The Last Jedi.



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Hmmm the ol switcheroo? Idk, I think Leia's words to han: "Luke is a Jedi, you're his father..." sealed it for me. It's still not out of the realm though cuz obviously adoption doesn't make a parent any less. If there's to be a twist, maybe Rey is the daughter that Leia and Han had but never mentioned? Still crossing my fingers its Luke's baby girl but if done right, I could be open to other possibility.

Sorry for the long reply, but didn't John Boyega or someone else mentioned that we seen Rey's parents in ep.7? or something like that?


Spoiler:
That's why I think it might be a twist. "Luke is a Jedi, you're his father," why would she say Luke first? In natural speech, it would be "you're his father, idiot, Luke is just a jedi that taught him." But it was like "Luke is a jedi so he couldn't raise him, but you're his father becuase you did raise him." Do I think it will happen? Nope, I think they're moving on from the Skywalkers at the expense of the movies, so I don't think Luke will actually be that big of a deal in the next two movies. He's probably going to be a weak jedi that didn't ever have a family.
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Re: RTT IV: All Hail Jiren The Gray 

Post#1320 » by CalamityX12 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:07 pm

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Nothing that concrete. They're two Empire pilots that turned to the Rebellion and were on Jakku. Not delving into the game itself since you are intending on playing it, but they have an unnamed daughter and Del, the father, was what led Kylo Ren to finding Lor San (the old dude) on Jakku. Del knows where Luke is, or rather, was the one holding the map to Luke until he gave it to Lor San. The theory is there because a) they never name the daughter, b) Iden (the mother) is a strong female character, and c) Del Rey Books are the publisher of the Star Wars books so Del being the father name and Rey being the daughter's name is a meta-shout out.


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Damn, well ain't covering it all. LOL..... if it walks like a duck, quacks like duck... oh **** LOL.... That would be a straight George Lucas type naming too. Didn't he named skywalker after something similar in that he took this n that to make skywalker?

But uhm, yea, that's really telling right there. Idk if I could spin it lol...


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I'm not saying the movie was pointless, I'm saying having ANY mystery about Rey's parents would be pointless if her parents end up being two people we don't know about prior to the movie. They could have just said "Rey's parents died when she was young" and nothing would change. That's why it's pointless. It's **** writing, but apparently the actual triology wasn't planned when they filmed TFA so we might be looking at a storyline that was changed by Rian Johnson when he wrote The Last Jedi.


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True, yes. They have/are setting up Rey's backstory mystery up and it would be a let down should it be something else that wasn't covered in the story or in part have greater significance. Literally, imagine the theater in unison responding to this: Rey your mother is Iden and your father is Del.
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LOL


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That's why I think it might be a twist. "Luke is a Jedi, you're his father," why would she say Luke first? In natural speech, it would be "you're his father, idiot, Luke is just a jedi that taught him." But it was like "Luke is a jedi so he couldn't raise him, but you're his father becuase you did raise him." Do I think it will happen? Nope, I think they're moving on from the Skywalkers at the expense of the movies, so I don't think Luke will actually be that big of a deal in the next two movies. He's probably going to be a weak jedi that didn't ever have a family.


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Well I imagine she said luke first cuz he was the subject of the statement Han said in which she responded to.
Han: If Luke couldn't reach to him how could I?(paraphrase)
Lea responds: Luke is a Jedi, you're his Father....

Even what you're saying is totally legit. It works as well. They could get away with that should they take that path in the story/movie. Also it would be kinda more genuine for Luke to name his son(if) after Ben(Obi)... not that Han or Leia didn't have reason but Luke more so IMO. They couldn't minimize Luke is that fashion. That would be awful. I'd be hard press. I'm already(predicitng) a Luke death/sacrifice by ep. 9 however I would like him to leave(not die like Yoda) and rebuild the Jedi order in some fashion. Something different and not the same movie outline already planned out in prior trilogies. Luke obviously is behind the curve in the raw power of the force but his knowledge shouldn't be matched.

Now how do we tie in Snoke?(read something about him possibly explaining his origins in those prequel books)


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