Around the NBA, Season 2017-2018

AingesBurner · Post #121 » by **AingesBurner** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:22 am

stitches wrote:
KqWIN wrote:Celtics 14 in a row...Danny knows what he's doing.

I don't know if I was blinded by saltiness of the loss of Hayward to them... I wanted them to fail so much that I convinced myself that they will. And now they are rolling over the league and they don't even have Hayward playing. I still think what they are doing is showing some signs of unsustainability (opponent shooting %) but in the big picture they will be much better than what I thought they will be. Oh well... I will eat that crow.

Also, Brad Stevens might be an amazing coach too.

Makes it seem like Hayward won’t resign there when his contract is up with Tatum and Brown playing so well.

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KqWIN · Post #122 » by **KqWIN** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:28 am

I am behind this Boston team. I love the way they play and am a big fan of many of their players. All of those guys play their heart sout, and their personnel is in sync. This is what a basketball team looks like when everything is fitting in perfectly. Brilliant design and execution.

TO11 · Post #123 » by **TO11** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:57 am

KqWIN wrote:I am behind this Boston team. I love the way they play and am a big fan of many of their players. All of those guys play their heart sout, and their personnel is in sync. This is what a basketball team looks like when everything is fitting in perfectly. Brilliant design and execution.

Ainge MVP?

Crunch 99 · Post #124 » by **Crunch 99** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:11 pm

TO11 wrote:Ainge MVP?

At this juncture, Ainge has to be the leading candidate for Executive of the Year and Stephens the leading candidate for Coach of the Year. Irving and Horford and will make the All Star team. In addition, Irving will make an All NBA Team and Horford an All NBA Defensive team. Irving will probably even get a couple votes for MVP, but this year's MVP award is James Harden's to lose. JMO. (All those awards are based on regular season performance).

SoCalJazzFan · Post #125 » by **SoCalJazzFan** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:07 pm

Personally, I thought that they would need a rim protector before having this type of success.

TO11 · Post #126 » by **TO11** » Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:50 am

Crunch 99 wrote:
TO11 wrote:Ainge MVP?

At this juncture, Ainge has to be the leading candidate for Executive of the Year and Stephens the leading candidate for Coach of the Year. Irving and Horford and will make the All Star team. In addition, Irving will make an All NBA Team and Horford an All NBA Defensive team. Irving will probably even get a couple votes for MVP, but this year's MVP award is James Harden's to lose. JMO. (All those awards are based on regular season performance).

Sounds about right.

Daddy 801 · Post #127 » by **Daddy 801** » Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:26 am

SoCalJazzFan wrote:Personally, I thought that they would need a rim protector before having this type of success.

Shows how important perimeter defense is. It's all about having 5 guys out there who can rotate and space. I love Gobert, but it does show an example of his limits. And I'm a huge Gobert fan and believe he can anchor a winning team.

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Tom349 · Post #128 » by **Tom349** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:04 am

Dario Saric is awful. I thought he might have been similar to Ingles only at the four and thus a good fit alongside Gobert but the more I see of him the more I think he is too unreliable to be a starter and is someone who looks good on a bad team.

Post #129 » by **Inigo Montoya** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:06 pm

Tom349 wrote:Dario Saric is awful. I thought he might have been similar to Ingles only at the four and thus a good fit alongside Gobert but the more I see of him the more I think he is too unreliable to be a starter and is someone who looks good on a bad team.

Dario Saric is awesome. For shame.

stitches · Post #130 » by **stitches** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:33 pm

Inigo Montoya wrote:
Tom349 wrote:Dario Saric is awful. I thought he might have been similar to Ingles only at the four and thus a good fit alongside Gobert but the more I see of him the more I think he is too unreliable to be a starter and is someone who looks good on a bad team.

Dario Saric is awesome. For shame.

He's been horrible this year... and most of last year. On the surface he's interesting and intriguing... but he's extremely inefficient offensively and horrible on D. He isn't all that different than Lyles to be fair... if Lyles was getting 25-30 minutes a game.

Post #131 » by **Inigo Montoya** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:40 pm

stitches wrote:
Inigo Montoya wrote:
Tom349 wrote:Dario Saric is awful. I thought he might have been similar to Ingles only at the four and thus a good fit alongside Gobert but the more I see of him the more I think he is too unreliable to be a starter and is someone who looks good on a bad team.

Dario Saric is awesome. For shame.

He's been horrible this year... and most of last year. On the surface he's interesting and intriguing... but he's extremely inefficient offensively and horrible on D. He isn't all that different than Lyles to be fair... if Lyles was getting 25-30 minutes a game.

They are using him as a stretch 4, which he is not. His biggest weakness has been long range shooting, and he has made significant strides in that area from the time he was a prospect up to now.

stitches · Post #132 » by **stitches** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:42 pm

Inigo Montoya wrote:
stitches wrote:
Inigo Montoya wrote:Dario Saric is awesome. For shame.

He's been horrible this year... and most of last year. On the surface he's interesting and intriguing... but he's extremely inefficient offensively and horrible on D. He isn't all that different than Lyles to be fair... if Lyles was getting 25-30 minutes a game.

They are using him as a stretch 4, which he is not. His biggest weakness has been long range shooting, and he has made significant strides in that area from the time he was a prospect up to now.

It's not just the long-range shooting. His finishing at the rim has been horrible too. He's shooting 39% in the 0-3 feet range.

Post #133 » by **Inigo Montoya** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:53 pm

stitches wrote:
Inigo Montoya wrote:
stitches wrote:He's been horrible this year... and most of last year. On the surface he's interesting and intriguing... but he's extremely inefficient offensively and horrible on D. He isn't all that different than Lyles to be fair... if Lyles was getting 25-30 minutes a game.

They are using him as a stretch 4, which he is not. His biggest weakness has been long range shooting, and he has made significant strides in that area from the time he was a prospect up to now.

It's not just the long-range shooting. His finishing at the rim has been horrible too. He's shooting 39% in the 0-3 feet range.

Meh, I'm sure it will pick up. And once again, I hate the NBA site. Can't find anything in there.

Daddy 801 · Post #134 » by **Daddy 801** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:50 am

If Dario is not a stretch four as some have suggested, what is he? And isn't that main reason we want him because he is a stretch four?

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KqWIN · Post #135 » by **KqWIN** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:57 am

Daddy 801 wrote:If Dario is not a stretch four as some have suggested, what is he? And isn't that main reason we want him because he is a stretch four?

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He has a good handle and some passing ability, but he needs the shot to go in to make it work. As others have stated, he has been awful this year...well except against the Jazz.

LesGrossman · Post #136 » by **LesGrossman** » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:38 pm

Dario Saric is in his second year. I know its easy to mistake those kids for grown-ups because they are so tall, but keep that in mind. Its his second year.

Rudy is playing in his fourth (?) season now, and still needs to learn a LOT - like, how to play the low post as a big. If we are willing to give him time to improve, we shouldnt declare a guy as useless who has had a rough start in his second season. He was also runner-up for ROY.

stitches · Post #137 » by **stitches** » Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:40 pm

Read on Twitter

WOW! I guess he chose the wrong Spaniard to duel with. Imagine if Rudy had thrown a similar fit last year when Quin benched him at the end of the game... exactly against Memphis as it happens. What would have happened you think?

Post #138 » by **Inigo Montoya** » Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:58 pm

stitches wrote:WOW! I guess he chose the wrong Spaniard to duel with. Imagine if Rudy had thrown a similar fit last year when Quin benched him at the end of the game... exactly against Memphis as it happens. What would have happened you think?

Different situation since the teams' records aren't that close. Too lazy to check but I think the Jazz had a decent record by that point, while the Grizzlies are struggling. They may have used this incident to do something they wanted to do before.

KqWIN · Post #139 » by **KqWIN** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:22 am

Andre Drummond is really good now that he cut out the BS post game, learned how to make a short roll pass, and can make FT's. If he's not able to dunk it, he's looking to pass always. That's where Rudy needs to take his development.

stitches · Post #140 » by **stitches** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:58 pm

Watching Minnesota play. It's painful how much talent they have and how clueless they seem on offense. You have Jimmy Butler, Towns and Wiggins on your team and you are running postups and isos for Dieng and Taj. Ouch! That team should be much better than it is.

Also, have I told you that I like Oubre?