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Poll: Would you trade Giannis for Parker or Wiggins?

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Would you trade Giannis to Philly for Jabari Parker or Wiggins?

Yes, I'd trade Giannis for the Jabari pick at #3
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Yes, I'd trade Giannis for the Wiggins pick at #3
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25%
No, I think Giannis will be a better player than either Parker or Wiggins, so I'm not dealing him
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61%
 
Total votes: 239

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Re: RE: Re: Poll: Would you trade Giannis for Parker or Wiggins? 

Post#381 » by blazza18 » Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:00 am

Sorry that you took me too literally there HR. I did mean just offensively with Embiid when I said anything on the court :lol: He's pretty good defensively too though.

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Oh for sure. Those guys do have the range to get out of any tight spots on the floor though which is something Giannis can't do just yet.
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Re: Poll: Would you trade Giannis for Parker or Wiggins? 

Post#382 » by mattg » Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:03 am

humanrefutation wrote:I mean, people forget this now, but it took LeBron until he was in his physical prime for him to figure out how to use his offensive possessions effectively. People clamored for him to post guys up. To become a better shooter (especially from 3). To become more physically aggressive.

Giannis is still 22. He didn't start playing basketball until he was in his teens. He has plenty of growth left in the skill and strategic aspects of his game.

Indeed.

Another hypothetical here. How would people value Giannis vs. healthy Embiid if in this scenario if Giannis was a 40% 3pt shooter?

Now, after thinking about that...what would people be willing to bet is more likely to happen, Embiid doesn't get hurt, or Giannis develops excellent shooting?
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Re: Poll: Would you trade Giannis for Parker or Wiggins? 

Post#383 » by ReginaldDwight » Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:06 am

mattg wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:I mean, people forget this now, but it took LeBron until he was in his physical prime for him to figure out how to use his offensive possessions effectively. People clamored for him to post guys up. To become a better shooter (especially from 3). To become more physically aggressive.

Giannis is still 22. He didn't start playing basketball until he was in his teens. He has plenty of growth left in the skill and strategic aspects of his game.

Indeed.

Another hypothetical here. How would people value Giannis vs. healthy Embiid if in this scenario if Giannis was a 40% 3pt shooter?

Now, after thinking about that...what would people be willing to bet is more likely to happen, Embiid doesn't get hurt, or Giannis develops excellent shooting?

If Giannis starting hitting at 40 percent we are talking about him in the same breath as other all time greats like Lebron and Kobe. So to me there isnt any discussion to be had here as Giannis is already the better, more healthy, and more impactful player.
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Post#384 » by humanrefutation » Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:07 am

blazza18 wrote:Sorry that you took me too literally there HR. I did mean just offensively with Embiid when I said anything on the court He's pretty good defensively too though.

mattg wrote: A lot of big guys with perimeter skills really struggle adjusting to smaller, quicker defenders who can out leverage them and can move their feet well enough to say in front. Dirk used to have all sorts of difficulty being guarded by 6'6''-6'7'' wings. KD would have issues with Tony Allen. Giannis will figure it out, but it's an adjustment.



Oh for sure. Those guys do have the range to get out of any tight spots on the floor though which is something Giannis can't do just yet.

I took you literally? Of course I did! You used the word "literally."
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Post#385 » by mattg » Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:07 am

blazza18 wrote:
mattg wrote: A lot of big guys with perimeter skills really struggle adjusting to smaller, quicker defenders who can out leverage them and can move their feet well enough to say in front. Dirk used to have all sorts of difficulty being guarded by 6'6''-6'7'' wings. KD would have issues with Tony Allen. Giannis will figure it out, but it's an adjustment.



Oh for sure. Those guys do have the range to get out of any tight spots on the floor though which is something Giannis can't do just yet.

For sure, which mirrors the issues Bron had at times prior to 2012. It's gonna take a while for Yung Gianni.
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Post#386 » by humanrefutation » Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:10 am

mattg wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:I mean, people forget this now, but it took LeBron until he was in his physical prime for him to figure out how to use his offensive possessions effectively. People clamored for him to post guys up. To become a better shooter (especially from 3). To become more physically aggressive.

Giannis is still 22. He didn't start playing basketball until he was in his teens. He has plenty of growth left in the skill and strategic aspects of his game.

Indeed.

Another hypothetical here. How would people value Giannis vs. healthy Embiid if in this scenario if Giannis was a 40% 3pt shooter?

Now, after thinking about that...what would people be willing to bet is more likely to happen, Embiid doesn't get hurt, or Giannis develops excellent shooting?


That's a really good question. I'd wager on Giannis because if the degenerative nature of Embiid's injuries. I wonder what the NBA community at large would think, though.
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Re: Poll: Would you trade Giannis for Parker or Wiggins? 

Post#387 » by blazza18 » Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:17 am

mattg wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:I mean, people forget this now, but it took LeBron until he was in his physical prime for him to figure out how to use his offensive possessions effectively. People clamored for him to post guys up. To become a better shooter (especially from 3). To become more physically aggressive.

Giannis is still 22. He didn't start playing basketball until he was in his teens. He has plenty of growth left in the skill and strategic aspects of his game.

Indeed.

Another hypothetical here. How would people value Giannis vs. healthy Embiid if in this scenario if Giannis was a 40% 3pt shooter?

Now, after thinking about that...what would people be willing to bet is more likely to happen, Embiid doesn't get hurt, or Giannis develops excellent shooting?


I don't even think it has to be a three point shot. I've always thought just him being a reliable threat from outside the paint changes everything for him and the team.

For your hypothetical it's Giannis with a 40% shot over anybody.

I don't trust Embiid staying healthy.
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Re: Poll: Would you trade Giannis for Parker or Wiggins? 

Post#388 » by DanoMac » Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:55 am

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DanoMac wrote:**** no I wouldn't trade Giannis for Embiid or Simmons.

Do you guys not understand what's happening right in front of our eyes? He's 22 and leading the league in scoring. He's single handedly led us to an above .500 record.

He's carrying so much more weight than Embiid or Simmons are. Look at his improvement year to year, and again, he's 22. I don't even think twice about it. Giannis is untouchable.

Sheesh, you guys. We have the best player in the NBA. Let's relax with trade scenarios and hypotheticals for him.


Why should we relax with trade scenarios and hypotheticals? None of us actually have the power to trade him. Trying to shut down a discussion by claiming that we can't even discuss a hypothetical isn't just silly, it's a fundamental misunderstanding of the point of these **** message boards.

No one is requiring you to participate in this discussion. If the very notion of debating whether to trade Giannis makes you feel all clammy and anxious, you're free to excuse yourself from the thread.

Lastly, Giannis is universally adored here. Saying that we "do not understand what's happening right in front of our eyes" comes off as pretty condescending and really obnoxious, tbh.


Holy overreaction.

You took this really personally for some reason. Condescending and obnoxious? I’m trying to “shut down” discussion? Wat? Not sure why my post hit your sensitivity trigger, I think anyone who entertains trading Giannis for anything is a lunatic. That’s my opinion and I shared it.

I’ve been a member of these boards for almost 13 years bud, I have a clear understanding of this place.

I didn’t quote anyone, or name anyone in particular, or attack anyone personally. Relax man.
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Post#389 » by Bucksfan28 » Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:12 am

DanoMac wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:
DanoMac wrote:**** no I wouldn't trade Giannis for Embiid or Simmons.

Do you guys not understand what's happening right in front of our eyes? He's 22 and leading the league in scoring. He's single handedly led us to an above .500 record.

He's carrying so much more weight than Embiid or Simmons are. Look at his improvement year to year, and again, he's 22. I don't even think twice about it. Giannis is untouchable.

Sheesh, you guys. We have the best player in the NBA. Let's relax with trade scenarios and hypotheticals for him.


Why should we relax with trade scenarios and hypotheticals? None of us actually have the power to trade him. Trying to shut down a discussion by claiming that we can't even discuss a hypothetical isn't just silly, it's a fundamental misunderstanding of the point of these **** message boards.

No one is requiring you to participate in this discussion. If the very notion of debating whether to trade Giannis makes you feel all clammy and anxious, you're free to excuse yourself from the thread.

Lastly, Giannis is universally adored here. Saying that we "do not understand what's happening right in front of our eyes" comes off as pretty condescending and really obnoxious, tbh.


You took that really personally man. Just like any and all members of this message board, I gave my opinion. I’m not “shutting down” anything, not sure what you’re talking about there. Again, I gave my opinion on the ridiculous Giannis trade discussion.

To say I’m being condescending? You kidding me dude? There’s so much worse stuff said on RealGM. For you to get insanely sensitive about my reply is comedy.

I didn’t quote or attack anyone in particular. I think anyone who wants to entertain trading Giannis is a lunatic, so what.

Relax man. Don’t get power happy.


Maybe it wasn't your intention, but it's easy to see how HR interpreted things that way.
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Post#390 » by DanoMac » Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:14 am

I’m still in the “can’t believe we have a top 5 player in the NBA and global icon” phase. I’m still gawking. I’m in no position to even entertain any hypothetical trade for him.

Forgive me for feeling so strongly on this topic.
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Post#391 » by Aaron It Out » Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:16 am

Discuss stupid "hypothetical" trades and people call it stupid. I, for one, am stun.

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Re: Poll: Would you trade Giannis for Parker or Wiggins? 

Post#392 » by VooDoo7 » Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:32 am

DanoMac wrote:I’m still in the “can’t believe we have a top 5 player in the NBA and global icon” phase. I’m still gawking. I’m in no position to even entertain any hypothetical trade for him.

Forgive me for feeling so strongly on this topic.

I'm with ya. There isn't one player that I'd trade Giannis for right now, considering him as a player, person and age. Not one. Not Steph. Not Davis. Not Lebron. No one.
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Post#393 » by -Jragon- » Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:55 am

Package JabariTelly and Mids for Durant


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Thon/chipolte

They get shooting and a returning future star...
We get the longest freakiest starting line up lol
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Re: Poll: Would you trade Giannis for Parker or Wiggins? 

Post#394 » by paulpressey25 » Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:11 pm

We are going to close this one up. This was a good thread when done 3.5 years ago. For accuracy sake, the poll was about 50-50 at the time if I recall, but has since gotten skewed by troll voting here in 2017. Note there is a feature now on RGM polls that allows them to run for a certain time, so in future threads with polls it might make sense to impose a 1,2 or 3 day option on the voting.
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