Should Turner be benched until 100%?

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

One of two things is going on:

A. Myles Turner is not fully healthy.

B. Myles Turner has regressed.

I'm thinking its more likely the first one, and apparently he even talked about not being 100% a few games ago.

I love Myles Turner and I can't wait to see the player he can become, but right now, he is not getting it done. Since returning from injury he is averaging 12 points and 7 rebounds on 41% shooting. This is not the Myles Turner we know. In most years, we would still need him to start, but this year we have a guy by the name of Domantas Sabonis who has been incredible for us. The team is hurting playing Turner while he is not 100% and keeping Sabonis on the bench for over half the game.

I'm not saying this needs to be permanent, when Turner is back to 100% make him the starter again, but for right now, he is killing us.

[Miller4ever]

Let the kid play himself back to 100%. Even if he's not 100% and Domas is outplaying him, his potential dictates that he be given every chance before we do something that could really mess with his development.

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

Let the kid play himself back to 100%. Even if he's not 100% and Domas is outplaying him, his potential dictates that he be given every chance before we do something that could really mess with his development.

I don't see how benching him until he is healthy is messing with his development. Like I said, only bench him until he is healthy, then he slides right back into the starting lineup.

[cruwinas]

One of two things is going on:

A. Myles Turner is not fully healthy.

B. Myles Turner has regressed.

I'm thinking its more likely the first one, and apparently he even talked about not being 100% a few games ago.

I love Myles Turner and I can't wait to see the player he can become, but right now, he is not getting it done. Since returning from injury he is averaging 12 points and 7 rebounds on 41% shooting. This is not the Myles Turner we know. In most years, we would still need him to start, but this year we have a guy by the name of Domantas Sabonis who has been incredible for us. The team is hurting playing Turner while he is not 100% and keeping Sabonis on the bench for over half the game.

I'm not saying this needs to be permanent, when Turner is back to 100% make him the starter again, but for right now, he is killing us.

I see no problem to ease back Turner into the game and have him come from the bench. And, if he is not treated like primadona and everything must be done to please him - benching could be a good motivational tool. It makes guys work and train harder, have a different look at their game. Sabonis? Pacers need to play him 32+ minutes per game. Domas had always a good motor, and team simply plays better with him on the floor. Both on D and on O. For Turner coming of the bench would make him to concentrate on certain things and do them well. Then he is back 100%, he can start again. Season is long, little injuries, little not feeling well happens. Young and Domas can't not guarantee that they will be 100% every game. So, one of them can go to bench.
Or, Nate can pull out Turner early and cut his minutes, if game doesn't come to him.
Many good options, just Pacers don't need a "soap opera". Turner's feelings are hurt, he is thinking about his future with the Pacers and all that other garbage.

[Yunsen]

What happened against Detroit was fine. When Sabonis subbed in with 5 minutes left in the 3rd he never came out (and Turner never came back in) the rest of the game because of how well the offense was running. We needed to give Sabonis more minutes in the first half though (he only played 7). I don't think him switching places with Sabonis would be a good thing because even when he starts playing better I don't know how you could justify putting Sabonis on the bench again.

[Wizop]

Did not his block in Memphis key the win? Surely benching him doesnt mean zero minutes. Turner, Young, and Sabonis are going to divide 96 minutes with only a handful going to others. Don't obsess over who plays when. At least not until the playoffs should we get there.

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[xxSnEaKyPxx]

Did not his block in Memphis key the win? Surely benching him doesnt mean zero minutes. Turner, Young, and Sabonis are going to divide 96 minutes with only a handful going to others. Don't obsess over who plays when. At least not until the playoffs should we get there.

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I'm not saying he isn't doing anything good, but he's clearly struggling on offense.

Yea, exactly, I'm not saying don't let him play. Just let him get back into the swing of things against bench units. If he is playing well, keep him on the floor.

[Jstock12]

My main concern with starting Sabonis is that he would automatically get less minutes with Lance. Domas can be effective without Lance, but Lance is borderline unplayable without Domas.

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

My main concern with starting Sabonis is that he would automatically get less minutes with Lance. Domas can be effective without Lance, but Lance is borderline unplayable without Domas.

Lance would still have Turner to play with. Lance killed it with Seraphin last year too, he just needs that one person who can play a PnR/PnP with him, doesn't HAVE to be Sabonis....it just cannot be Jefferson.

[winter_mute_13]

I still see this season as primarily a development year. I know we look a bit ahead of schedule at the moment - we're on the playoff bubble right now and it's quite possible that we can get in as a lower seed - but to me contention should be far from our thoughts.

So with that view, I'd rather stick with Turner and let him play through his issues. He's a pretty unique player who is a potential mismatch vs most defenders, so in my mind is very much worth the investment.

At the same time though, there is no doubt that Sabonis is ahead of the curve. I understand wanting to reward Sabonis for his stellar play, but I don't see why it has to be at Turner's expense. In the long run, we need Turner and Sabonis to figure out how to play together, and I would propose that they do it earlier instead of later. Either start Sabonis, or at the very least, greatly increase the overlap of his minutes with Turner's. It might hurt us in the short term, but I believe that it will be worth it eventually. Imagine a Sabonis-Turner 2-man game...

[AussiePacer]

Turner will be fine, he's young, had a long lay off and is adjusting to the group of starters.

I'm happy for Sabonis to increase his minutes, but think he's going to spend more time with the second unit where he adds the most benefit. We will struggle to play Turner, Young and Sabonis together and at this stage, Turner and Young are best suited where they are.

[pacers33granger]

Turner will be fine, he's young, had a long lay off and is adjusting to the group of starters.

This is all it is imo.

Maybe he's still not fully healthy, but I don't think it'd be smart to bench him. He's clearly frustrated with how he's performing and I wouldn't want to risk him getting down on himself.

[Wizop]

Let the kid play himself back to 100%. Even if he's not 100% and Domas is outplaying him, his potential dictates that he be given every chance before we do something that could really mess with his development.

I don't see how benching him until he is healthy is messing with his development. Like I said, only bench him until he is healthy, then he slides right back into the starting lineup.

Yet another whammy??? Turner has great first half next game out.

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[basketballwacko2]

One of two things is going on:

A. Myles Turner is not fully healthy.

B. Myles Turner has regressed.

I'm thinking its more likely the first one, and apparently he even talked about not being 100% a few games ago.

I love Myles Turner and I can't wait to see the player he can become, but right now, he is not getting it done. Since returning from injury he is averaging 12 points and 7 rebounds on 41% shooting. This is not the Myles Turner we know. In most years, we would still need him to start, but this year we have a guy by the name of Domantas Sabonis who has been incredible for us. The team is hurting playing Turner while he is not 100% and keeping Sabonis on the bench for over half the game.

I'm not saying this needs to be permanent, when Turner is back to 100% make him the starter again, but for right now, he is killing us.

Well based on the 1st 1/2 of the game with the Heat it looks like he's 100%.

[Miller4ever]

Let the kid play himself back to 100%. Even if he's not 100% and Domas is outplaying him, his potential dictates that he be given every chance before we do something that could really mess with his development.

I don't see how benching him until he is healthy is messing with his development. Like I said, only bench him until he is healthy, then he slides right back into the starting lineup.

Yet another whammy??? Turner has great first half next game out.

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#sneakyspecial

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

I don't see how benching him until he is healthy is messing with his development. Like I said, only bench him until he is healthy, then he slides right back into the starting lineup.

Yet another whammy??? Turner has great first half next game out.

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#sneakyspecial

I don't want to say I am solely responsible for Turner playing great.


But I am most definitely responsible for Turner playing great.


I'm like a good pissed off mood away from making a "The Pacers will not win the Championship" thread.

[Wizop]

I'm like a good pissed off mood away from making a "The Pacers will not win the Championship" thread.

First start a "pacers won't win the lottery" thread.

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