Cavs/Hornets

[jbk1234]

Kemba + Dwight and the Cavs have to seriously consider this offer

Dwight is a headcase but is putting up good numbers

Plus LeBron is no Kobe, I think he would get much more out of Dwight than anyone has

Bron - Love - Dwight is lookin nice

None of these Cavs-take-on-a-$20 million/per-center proposals work without TT going out. Not to pick on you but the Cavs are in the repeater tax for the second year in a row & people post them all the time. The Cavs can afford to pay TT & Love. They can't afford to pay TT, Love, & another expensive big man.

[Stillwater]

Cav's would do OP trade but only if the Nets pick was top 3 protected at which point if it is not conveyed Charlotte gets Cavs own 1st and Cav's 2021 1st top 3 protected.
I doubt Hornets would do this unless they are a bottom 5 east team at the deadline.If they are I could see it happen for sure.

[JDR720]

Bumping for reaction from Hornets fans.

Dont want Frye, already have Frank and Marvin who are all equally sucky.

maybe Nets pick, Love and IT for Kemba, Dwight and Bacon or Graham (decent and cheap 3/D players)

[Stillwater]

Bumping for reaction from Hornets fans.

Dont want Frye, already have Frank and Marvin who are all equally sucky.

maybe Nets pick, Love and IT for Kemba, Dwight and Bacon or Graham (decent and cheap 3/D players)

if you wouldn't want Frye's expiring then you couldn't have IT4. Dwight is terrible and we definitely would rather keep Frye in that situation.
You could not get Love and IT4 without giving up MKG and Kemba.

[jbk1234]

Bumping for reaction from Hornets fans.

Dont want Frye, already have Frank and Marvin who are all equally sucky.

maybe Nets pick, Love and IT for Kemba, Dwight and Bacon or Graham (decent and cheap 3/D players)

I included Frye because he's expiring. You could use his money to re-sign IT this summer.

But yeah including Love, IT & the Brooklyn 1st obviously kills it for the Cavs. Again, the Cavs aren't taking any of the $20 million centers people try to send them without TT going out.

[jbk1234]

Bumping for reaction from Hornets fans.

Dont want Frye, already have Frank and Marvin who are all equally sucky.

maybe Nets pick, Love and IT for Kemba, Dwight and Bacon or Graham (decent and cheap 3/D players)

if you wouldn't want Frye's expiring then you couldn't have IT4. Dwight is terrible and we definitely would rather keep Frye in that situation.
You could not get Love and IT4 without giving up MKG and Kemba.

MKG is better than Shump at defense but worse offensively. Think about that. There's absolutely no point in doing the trade if the Cavs include Love. You won't have enough offense to contend. Just keep the pick & hope for the best with IT.

[Stillwater]

Dont want Frye, already have Frank and Marvin who are all equally sucky.

maybe Nets pick, Love and IT for Kemba, Dwight and Bacon or Graham (decent and cheap 3/D players)

if you wouldn't want Frye's expiring then you couldn't have IT4. Dwight is terrible and we definitely would rather keep Frye in that situation.
You could not get Love and IT4 without giving up MKG and Kemba.

MKG is better than Shump at defense but worse offensively. Think about that. There's absolutely no point in doing the trade if the Cavs include Love. You won't have enough offense to contend. Just keep the pick & hope for the best with IT.

Yeah my point to his comment was they were not getting Love for nothing and that orgs fixation along with much of it's fan base to MKG would make them not even do that deal. We obviously wouldn't either

[jbk1234]

if you wouldn't want Frye's expiring then you couldn't have IT4. Dwight is terrible and we definitely would rather keep Frye in that situation.
You could not get Love and IT4 without giving up MKG and Kemba.

MKG is better than Shump at defense but worse offensively. Think about that. There's absolutely no point in doing the trade if the Cavs include Love. You won't have enough offense to contend. Just keep the pick & hope for the best with IT.

Yeah my point to his comment was they were not getting Love for nothing and that orgs fixation along with much of it's fan base to MKG would make them not even do that deal. We obviously wouldn't either

The entire point in trading for Kemba is recovering 80% or Kyrie's offense while upgrading defensively. If you give away Love's offense to get him, and that's what asking for MKG in return is, there's no point to any of it.

[Stillwater]

MKG is better than Shump at defense but worse offensively. Think about that. There's absolutely no point in doing the trade if the Cavs include Love. You won't have enough offense to contend. Just keep the pick & hope for the best with IT.

Yeah my point to his comment was they were not getting Love for nothing and that orgs fixation along with much of it's fan base to MKG would make them not even do that deal. We obviously wouldn't either

The entire point in trading for Kemba is recovering 80% or Kyrie's offense while upgrading defensively. If you give away Love's offense to get him, and that's what asking for MKG in return is, there's no point to any of it.

right I know.
Your original trade was far better than Love being shipped and I would not think we would trade Love for anyone this season.
I think for Cavs to move IT and the pick they would have to put some protection on it , other than that it is a good trade for both teams provided Charlotte throws in the towel at the deadline.

[Magic_Johnny12]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7gnjrsf

Cavs send a 1st to orlando. Who says no? Maybe Orlando, but this move gets them into the playoffs easily. IT, Simmons, Fournier, Gordon, And Vucevic is pretty good

Lmao. Please leave Orlando out of this.

If Orlando is indeed interested in Thomas they simply pursue him in the offseason.

Thomas's value is literally no where close to Isaac's.

[Bakuto]

Cavs arent moving nets pick unless its for a top 10 star like Boogie, and even then I doubt it.

I would move IT to a 3rd team like Magic, Jazz, Pistons that can use a scoring pg, they send younger assets and or picks to hornets. We also send some assets like cedi, zizic, crowder, our own pick

Pistons don't need IT.

[BeesWax]

Yeah my point to his comment was they were not getting Love for nothing and that orgs fixation along with much of it's fan base to MKG would make them not even do that deal. We obviously wouldn't either

The entire point in trading for Kemba is recovering 80% or Kyrie's offense while upgrading defensively. If you give away Love's offense to get him, and that's what asking for MKG in return is, there's no point to any of it.

right I know.
Your original trade was far better than Love being shipped and I would not think we would trade Love for anyone this season.
I think for Cavs to move IT and the pick they would have to put some protection on it , other than that it is a good trade for both teams provided Charlotte throws in the towel at the deadline.

With protection the Hornets pass on this deal easily. IT is coming off a serious injury and has to be paid a season earlier than Kemba who leads this team very well. Just don't see the value there is we don't get the pick and you have nothing of value to sub if the pick was protected.

[RaptorsLife]

Kemba fantastic but too me he doesn't push needle enough to beat warriors for cavs. Try to add batum or kamisky involved

[Stillwater]

The entire point in trading for Kemba is recovering 80% or Kyrie's offense while upgrading defensively. If you give away Love's offense to get him, and that's what asking for MKG in return is, there's no point to any of it.

right I know.
Your original trade was far better than Love being shipped and I would not think we would trade Love for anyone this season.
I think for Cavs to move IT and the pick they would have to put some protection on it , other than that it is a good trade for both teams provided Charlotte throws in the towel at the deadline.

With protection the Hornets pass on this deal easily. IT is coming off a serious injury and has to be paid a season earlier than Kemba who leads this team very well. Just don't see the value there is we don't get the pick and you have nothing of value to sub if the pick was protected.

Yeah probably exactly why OP didn't add the protections, but I don't see the Cavs doing it without some kind of protection so if that's a deal breaker along with IT hip etc than so be it.