Game 18: Chicago Bulls at Phoenix Suns, Sunday, November 19th, 6PM MST

[grumpysaddle]

At the time he was the hot hand shooting 6-9 ... I don't see anything wrong with him continuing to shoot.

Of course if you go back in the thread peeps were bitchin when he missed his first few shots and then giving no credit for his assists.

Even if he ends up with assists he is killing the ball movement it is not hard to see.

Again I think fans ball watch when James is holding the ball and miss all the screens Daniels is working off. Sometimes the screen doesn't pan out and then James has to improvise. Really the only other creator when James is playing with the second unit is Jackson. I'm not sure what else you expect to have happen.

Personally, I expect us to get a better player. When you're relying on Mike James as a scoring punch off the bench, you're doing it wrong.

[Saberestar]

Much needed win to stay confident and destroy on Wednesday that pure general floor and great leader that starts at PG for the Bucks.

[NTB]

Much needed win to stay confident and destroy on Wednesday that pure general floor and great leader that starts at PG for the Bucks.

We never win 3 games in a row and you know Bledsoe will go for it.

[lilfishi22]

I really like that line up we ran in that last 2 minutes of play. I think in that last 2 minutes after we subbed James, we had Booker, Daniels, JJ, TJ, Len. That's awesome spacing for Booker to work with and if JJ and TJ could hit more threes, that would be a great offensive line up.

[Saberestar]

32 assist is huge for us. I really like what Triano is doing with the team i hope the team continues to play unselfish.

Yeah, in the last few games we are moving the ball pretty well.
Monroe is gonna help a lot to sustain that.

[Mulhollanddrive]

7-8 under Triano.

Same as Miami, OKC, Memphis.

[lilfishi22]

What I find interesting is who you folks expect to be our go to scorers off the bench? Len ... nope, Bender ... nope, Jackson ... suspect handle and shot, Daniels ... Catch and Shoot guy. So who is gonna score ??

James is really the only guy imo. He *can* pass, he *can* score, he *can* shoot and he has experience

True ... Ulis can not score like James which make James a much better fit on the bench. We have to have someone who can lead that second unit.

For every criticism that posters have called him out on, I think we just have to accept that he's a limited player but we should expect him to play the game which got him to the dance. To expect him to turn into a pass-first PG would just be an exercise in disappointment. He is who he is but he does have talent. The fact that he's a scoring PG, may not match well when Booker is also on the court but he'll be perfect running the team off the bench.

Ulis, on the other hand, he's also very limited because of his size and shooting abilities but he's also a worse scorer than James. He tends to dribble around a lot which I think hurts offensive flow but when he's with Booker on the court, I feel like he's more confident passing it off to him earlier which works in our favor.

[bigfoot]

Even if he ends up with assists he is killing the ball movement it is not hard to see.

Again I think fans ball watch when James is holding the ball and miss all the screens Daniels is working off. Sometimes the screen doesn't pan out and then James has to improvise. Really the only other creator when James is playing with the second unit is Jackson. I'm not sure what else you expect to have happen.

Personally, I expect us to get a better player. When you're relying on Mike James as a scoring punch off the bench, you're doing it wrong.

The question is who would you get ... realistically. And people should be riding Ulis way harder than James. Ulis numbers are by far worse ... shooting percentages, turnovers, lower rebounds, lower assists. Guess we need to replace both of the ASAP.

[lilfishi22]

Even if he ends up with assists he is killing the ball movement it is not hard to see.

Again I think fans ball watch when James is holding the ball and miss all the screens Daniels is working off. Sometimes the screen doesn't pan out and then James has to improvise. Really the only other creator when James is playing with the second unit is Jackson. I'm not sure what else you expect to have happen.

Personally, I expect us to get a better player. When you're relying on Mike James as a scoring punch off the bench, you're doing it wrong.

We're doing it wrong already by starting Tyler Ulis.

[grumpysaddle]

Again I think fans ball watch when James is holding the ball and miss all the screens Daniels is working off. Sometimes the screen doesn't pan out and then James has to improvise. Really the only other creator when James is playing with the second unit is Jackson. I'm not sure what else you expect to have happen.

Personally, I expect us to get a better player. When you're relying on Mike James as a scoring punch off the bench, you're doing it wrong.

The question is who would you get ... realistically. And people should be riding Ulis way harder than James. Ulis numbers are by far worse ... shooting percentages, turnovers, lower rebounds, lower assists. Guess we need to replace both of the ASAP.

I don't mind Ulis on the floor most of the time though. He was excellent starting end of the year last year. I think he plays better with better players around him. So I'm not mad at him. James makes the better players around him worse. At this point, I take any competent PG that knows how to run a system without beating the air out of the ball.

[grumpysaddle]

Again I think fans ball watch when James is holding the ball and miss all the screens Daniels is working off. Sometimes the screen doesn't pan out and then James has to improvise. Really the only other creator when James is playing with the second unit is Jackson. I'm not sure what else you expect to have happen.

Personally, I expect us to get a better player. When you're relying on Mike James as a scoring punch off the bench, you're doing it wrong.

We're doing it wrong already by starting Tyler Ulis.

I like watching the games more with in the starting lineup than James. James is the PG version of Shannon Brown. Just damaging to my eyes.

[bigfoot]

People really want a pass first point guard but there are so few of them. PGs in league leading in assists are Harden, Westbrook, and Wall ... all close to 10 assists per game. None of them are pass first PGs. Chris Paul is probably the only legit pass first PG. Look at this way. I think everybody would agree Tony Parker was a decent PG. His career stats are 15.8 points and 5.8 assists. James is not Parker but he is putting up a respectable 11.2 pts and 3.9 asts in his rookie season and in fewer minutes. Really I'm not sure you are going to find a better option as a backup than James right now. Sure we need a better starter but James is much better suited as a sixth man off the bench.

[lilfishi22]

Personally, I expect us to get a better player. When you're relying on Mike James as a scoring punch off the bench, you're doing it wrong.

We're doing it wrong already by starting Tyler Ulis.

I like watching the games more with in the starting lineup than James. James is the PG version of Shannon Brown. Just damaging to my eyes.

Maybe he's a better back court partner than James with Booker but he's still not a starting calibre PG, no matter how you look at it. imo neither guys are good next to Booker. Ulis' inability to hit an open shot and being put in constant defensive mismatches hurts us as much as James' inconsistent passing and lowkey Kobe mentality.

[NTB]

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[MathiasPW]

Didn't like the game. We only won cause they shot poorly (very poorly if you dont count Markannen). Our assist number is encouraging but kinda hides a lackluster offensive effort.

[lilfishi22]

Didn't like the game. We only won cause they shot poorly (very poorly if you dont count Markannen). Our assist number is encouraging but kinda hides a lackluster offensive effort.

We also played good defense

[jcsunsfan]

Monroe's interior passing is fantastic for TJ. Monroe is a really nice facilitator and scorer in the paint.

[bwoolf2]

Not sure how often we will have a big enough lead at the end of a game this year. But whatever offense we decided to run for the last 5 minutes was atrocious. Someone dribble the ball just past half court while everyone stands around the 3 point line then with 5 seconds left try to make a long ass 3 or drive into a double team and turn the ball over, puke...

[WeekapaugGroove]

Not sure how often we will have a big enough lead at the end of a game this year. But whatever offense we decided to run for the last 5 minutes was atrocious. Someone dribble the ball just past half court while everyone stands around the 3 point line then with 5 seconds left try to make a long ass 3 or drive into a double team and turn the ball over, puke...

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. Hopefully they watch the tape and its a good teaching moment. To win against good teams in the future you need to actually run offense in crunch time.

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[Revived]

I really like Monroe as a player. Did we get the best player in that trade? Bledsoe isn't that good.

He's a good player that plays within the game and doesn't force anything.