2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc)

[shlo]

So... should we be rooting for the Sixers to get the Lakers pick this year or for that pick to go to Boston so the Sixers get the Sacramento pick next year. Which draft looks better?

Of course there is the highly unlikely scenario the Sixers keep both (LA finish 1 or after 6 and next year Sacramento gets #1)

[Kobblehead]

I definitely want the pick this year.

Even if it's in the #6-10 range, you could potentially come away with a Kevin Knox that would go a long way in completing the puzzle.

[Unbreakable99]

So... should we be rooting for the Sixers to get the Lakers pick this year or for that pick to go to Boston so the Sixers get the Sacramento pick next year. Which draft looks better?

Of course there is the highly unlikely scenario the Sixers keep both (LA finish 1 or after 6 and next year Sacramento gets #1)

You definitely should root for us to keep the pick for a few reasons. The first is to not let Boston get a rim protector to complete their team. The second is because we need help for our bench. And you should be rooting for the Lakers to win games not right now. Do NOT root for losses. I repeat do NOT root for losses now. We need the Lakers to win some games. It will be a shame if we never get that Lakers pick after wanting it to convey for 3 years.

[bball4life]

So... should we be rooting for the Sixers to get the Lakers pick this year or for that pick to go to Boston so the Sixers get the Sacramento pick next year. Which draft looks better?

Of course there is the highly unlikely scenario the Sixers keep both (LA finish 1 or after 6 and next year Sacramento gets #1)

You definitely should root for us to keep the pick for a few reasons. The first is to not let Boston get a rim protector to complete their team. The second is because we need help for our bench. And you should be rooting for the Lakers to win games not right now. Do NOT root for losses. I repeat do NOT root for losses now. We need the Lakers to win some games. It will be a shame if we never get that Lakers pick after wanting it to convey for 3 years.

The Lakers are not going to finish in the bottom 5 this year, barring catastrophic injury problems. They have zero incentive to tank and the Bulls, Mavs, Suns, Kings, and Hawks will. One or two of the Hornets, Knicks, Jazz, heat and clippers will also end up tanking depending on how the next month or 2 goes. I think you should absolutely root for losses so they stay closer to 6 than 10.

And if the lottery gods strike, well, at least its a 1 in 3 chance to be number one.

[the_process]

So... should we be rooting for the Sixers to get the Lakers pick this year or for that pick to go to Boston so the Sixers get the Sacramento pick next year. Which draft looks better?

Of course there is the highly unlikely scenario the Sixers keep both (LA finish 1 or after 6 and next year Sacramento gets #1)

You definitely should root for us to keep the pick for a few reasons. The first is to not let Boston get a rim protector to complete their team. The second is because we need help for our bench. And you should be rooting for the Lakers to win games not right now. Do NOT root for losses. I repeat do NOT root for losses now. We need the Lakers to win some games. It will be a shame if we never get that Lakers pick after wanting it to convey for 3 years.

The Lakers are not going to finish in the bottom 5 this year, barring catastrophic injury problems. They have zero incentive to tank and the Bulls, Mavs, Suns, Kings, and Hawks will. One or two of the Hornets, Knicks, Jazz, heat and clippers will also end up tanking depending on how the next month or 2 goes. I think you should absolutely root for losses so they stay closer to 6 than 10.

And if the lottery gods strike, well, at least its a 1 in 3 chance to be number one.

Nope. Unbreakable was right about the Heat in 2015, and he’s right now. Let the Lakers bank up some wins. You can root for their complete and utter failure after the all star break.

[Unbreakable99]

You definitely should root for us to keep the pick for a few reasons. The first is to not let Boston get a rim protector to complete their team. The second is because we need help for our bench. And you should be rooting for the Lakers to win games not right now. Do NOT root for losses. I repeat do NOT root for losses now. We need the Lakers to win some games. It will be a shame if we never get that Lakers pick after wanting it to convey for 3 years.

The Lakers are not going to finish in the bottom 5 this year, barring catastrophic injury problems. They have zero incentive to tank and the Bulls, Mavs, Suns, Kings, and Hawks will. One or two of the Hornets, Knicks, Jazz, heat and clippers will also end up tanking depending on how the next month or 2 goes. I think you should absolutely root for losses so they stay closer to 6 than 10.

And if the lottery gods strike, well, at least its a 1 in 3 chance to be number one.

Nope. Unbreakable was right about the Heat in 2015, and he’s right now. Let the Lakers bank up some wins. You can root for their complete and utter failure after the all star break.

Yup. Exactly.

[Arsenal]

So... should we be rooting for the Sixers to get the Lakers pick this year or for that pick to go to Boston so the Sixers get the Sacramento pick next year. Which draft looks better?

Of course there is the highly unlikely scenario the Sixers keep both (LA finish 1 or after 6 and next year Sacramento gets #1)

You definitely should root for us to keep the pick for a few reasons. The first is to not let Boston get a rim protector to complete their team. The second is because we need help for our bench. And you should be rooting for the Lakers to win games not right now. Do NOT root for losses. I repeat do NOT root for losses now. We need the Lakers to win some games. It will be a shame if we never get that Lakers pick after wanting it to convey for 3 years.

The Lakers are not going to finish in the bottom 5 this year, barring catastrophic injury problems. They have zero incentive to tank and the Bulls, Mavs, Suns, Kings, and Hawks will. One or two of the Hornets, Knicks, Jazz, heat and clippers will also end up tanking depending on how the next month or 2 goes. I think you should absolutely root for losses so they stay closer to 6 than 10.

And if the lottery gods strike, well, at least its a 1 in 3 chance to be number one.

This. They're not finishing in the bottom 5 due to other teams tanking, but they're not good enough to finish out of the bottom 10. That means their pick likely ends up between #6 and #10, which is good for us since we get it if it's lower than #6.

[Gant]

This might be helpful. It's a chart of the odds of the LA pick going to Boston at every lottery position. As you can see, the Celtics have a very good chance at spots 1-4, a bit less than even at #5, a small chance at 6 and 7, and prayers after that. (Chart via Reddit.)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hY52E_wWGpgdutx2xOZyT7wE45Dk52O-By93bHHGzkM/edit#gid=0

The way the Lakers are playing, it looks likely at this moment that the Sixers will get the pick this year. There's a long time to go but the Lakers finishing somewhere from 6 to 9 seems very possible.

[shlo]

I actually think my preference is for the pick to go to Boston and to keep the Sacramento pick. I think the Sacramento pick will be higher and a year later so the Sixers will have a better understanding of what they need.

[spikeslovechild]

I actually think my preference is for the pick to go to Boston and to keep the Sacramento pick. I think the Sacramento pick will be higher and a year later so the Sixers will have a better understanding of what they need.

Yep my preference is to have a shot at number one otherwise let us keep the Sac pick.

[the_process]

The SAC pick is also top 1 protected. So you still have a shot at getting the Kings pick if they suck again even if Boston doesn’t get the Laker pick.

[ILikeLollies]

Great win by the lakers today for those of us who want to keep this years pick.

[XtremeDunkz]

I'll be happy with Lakers pick 6-10

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[Ryuzaki]

Man I don't know what I want anymore. Do we want to keep the Sac pick? Which only means Boston got another gifted top 5 pick. Or do we want to keep the Laker pick and hope that Sac can improve enough to not gift Boston another top 3 pick...

Man I'm kind of wishing BC stuck to his guns and stayed at 3. Boston was never going to draft Fultz with IT -> Kyrie in the mix, and Lavar had sold LA on Lonzo. Would have been so nice to have snagged Kelle at 3 and then keep those two picks... Oh well.

[Sixers2125]

Man I don't know what I want anymore. Do we want to keep the Sac pick? Which only means Boston got another gifted top 5 pick. Or do we want to keep the Laker pick and hope that Sac can improve enough to not gift Boston another top 3 pick...

Man I'm kind of wishing BC stuck to his guns and stayed at 3. Boston was never going to draft Fultz with IT -> Kyrie in the mix, and Lavar had sold LA on Lonzo. Would have been so nice to have snagged Kelle at 3 and then keep those two picks... Oh well.

Ainge surely would have traded down to someone else if we didn't do it, probably Sacramento. We weren't getting fultz at 3. I still like fultz a lot, I would still take him #1 today.

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[Ryuzaki]

Man I don't know what I want anymore. Do we want to keep the Sac pick? Which only means Boston got another gifted top 5 pick. Or do we want to keep the Laker pick and hope that Sac can improve enough to not gift Boston another top 3 pick...

Man I'm kind of wishing BC stuck to his guns and stayed at 3. Boston was never going to draft Fultz with IT -> Kyrie in the mix, and Lavar had sold LA on Lonzo. Would have been so nice to have snagged Kelle at 3 and then keep those two picks... Oh well.

Ainge surely would have traded down to someone else if we didn't do it, probably Sacramento. We weren't getting fultz at 3. I still like fultz a lot, I would still take him #1 today.

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Does Ainge get his guy (Jackson (Tatum)) at 5?

Also, I too adore Fultz and still love the move, I just don't like the reality that Boston is going to get another piece to add to their chest of undeserved prospects.

[Unbreakable99]

Man I don't know what I want anymore. Do we want to keep the Sac pick? Which only means Boston got another gifted top 5 pick. Or do we want to keep the Laker pick and hope that Sac can improve enough to not gift Boston another top 3 pick...

Man I'm kind of wishing BC stuck to his guns and stayed at 3. Boston was never going to draft Fultz with IT -> Kyrie in the mix, and Lavar had sold LA on Lonzo. Would have been so nice to have snagged Kelle at 3 and then keep those two picks... Oh well.

Ainge surely would have traded down to someone else if we didn't do it, probably Sacramento. We weren't getting fultz at 3. I still like fultz a lot, I would still take him #1 today.

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Sacramento wasn’t trading up. Ainge tried to trade with them and they smartly said no. More and more people realize Fultz wasn’t going number one if Boston kept the pick. Fultz was going to be there at three. People fell for the hype.

[Sixers2125]

Man I don't know what I want anymore. Do we want to keep the Sac pick? Which only means Boston got another gifted top 5 pick. Or do we want to keep the Laker pick and hope that Sac can improve enough to not gift Boston another top 3 pick...

Man I'm kind of wishing BC stuck to his guns and stayed at 3. Boston was never going to draft Fultz with IT -> Kyrie in the mix, and Lavar had sold LA on Lonzo. Would have been so nice to have snagged Kelle at 3 and then keep those two picks... Oh well.

Ainge surely would have traded down to someone else if we didn't do it, probably Sacramento. We weren't getting fultz at 3. I still like fultz a lot, I would still take him #1 today.

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Sacramento wasn’t trading up. Ainge tried to trade with them and they smartly said no. More and more people realize Fultz wasn’t going number one if Boston kept the pick. Fultz was going to be there at three. People fell for the hype.

Smartly? I would take fultz over Fox and Justin Jackson, and I like Fox. I think Tatum is still there at 5 for Boston, but I think they really wanted Josh Jackson which is why they preferred a trade with us.

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[Ryuzaki]

Man I don't know what I want anymore. Do we want to keep the Sac pick? Which only means Boston got another gifted top 5 pick. Or do we want to keep the Laker pick and hope that Sac can improve enough to not gift Boston another top 3 pick...

Man I'm kind of wishing BC stuck to his guns and stayed at 3. Boston was never going to draft Fultz with IT -> Kyrie in the mix, and Lavar had sold LA on Lonzo. Would have been so nice to have snagged Kelle at 3 and then keep those two picks... Oh well.

Ainge surely would have traded down to someone else if we didn't do it, probably Sacramento. We weren't getting fultz at 3. I still like fultz a lot, I would still take him #1 today.

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Sacramento wasn’t trading up. Ainge tried to trade with them and they smartly said no. More and more people realize Fultz wasn’t going number one if Boston kept the pick. Fultz was going to be there at three. People fell for the hype.

There was no "hype". Fultz is/was the best player in the draft and the trade guaranteed that we got another franchise player to add to our two generational players. Boston didn't need a point guard and LA got tricked into thinking Lonzo was the next Magic Johnson. That is perhaps the only reason why I think that Fultz could have still been around at 3. Not because of some sort of undeserved hype on his behalf.

[Unbreakable99]

Ainge surely would have traded down to someone else if we didn't do it, probably Sacramento. We weren't getting fultz at 3. I still like fultz a lot, I would still take him #1 today.

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Sacramento wasn’t trading up. Ainge tried to trade with them and they smartly said no. More and more people realize Fultz wasn’t going number one if Boston kept the pick. Fultz was going to be there at three. People fell for the hype.

There was no "hype". Fultz is/was the best player in the draft and the trade guaranteed that we got another franchise player to add to our two generational players. Boston didn't need a point guard and LA got tricked into thinking Lonzo was the next Magic Johnson. That is perhaps the only reason why I think that Fultz could have still been around at 3. Not because of some sort of undeserved hype on his behalf.

So you agree Fultz would have been there at three. That’s what I’m saying. Fultz had the hype of being the best player in the draft and that Ainge was going to take him and there was no way he would not go first. If Ainge stays at one Fultz isn’t drafted first.