2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc)

[Ryuzaki]

Sacramento wasn’t trading up. Ainge tried to trade with them and they smartly said no. More and more people realize Fultz wasn’t going number one if Boston kept the pick. Fultz was going to be there at three. People fell for the hype.

There was no "hype". Fultz is/was the best player in the draft and the trade guaranteed that we got another franchise player to add to our two generational players. Boston didn't need a point guard and LA got tricked into thinking Lonzo was the next Magic Johnson. That is perhaps the only reason why I think that Fultz could have still been around at 3. Not because of some sort of undeserved hype on his behalf.

So you agree Fultz would have been there at three. That’s what I’m saying. Fultz had the hype of being the best player in the draft and that Ainge was going to take him and there was no way he would not go first. If Ainge stays at one Fultz isn’t drafted first.

Oh my bad, I misread your post. Yeah I agree that there is a chance he would have been there at 3, but then again wasn't there a rumor that LA also tried to tried up to #1 for Markelle? So who knows.

[Sixers2125]

Yeah there's no way he isn't taken number 1. Virtually every gm had him #1. He isnt gonna pull a cavs and take somebody else #1 while getting the guy he wants and more later on while having to pay his guy less. He'd take the #4 or #5 and a second rounder before he takes Tatum or Jackson #1. #1 contract is 4y 33.5 mil vs 4y 27 mil for #3.

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[Unbreakable99]

Yeah there's no way he isn't taken number 1. Virtually every gm had him #1. He isnt gonna pull a cavs and take somebody else #1 while getting the guy he wants and more later on while having to pay his guy less. He'd take the #4 or #5 and a second rounder before he takes Tatum or Jackson #1. #1 contract is 4y 33.5 mil vs 4y 27 mil for #3.

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Ainge didn’t have Fultz number one.

[the_process]

Yeah there's no way he isn't taken number 1. Virtually every gm had him #1. He isnt gonna pull a cavs and take somebody else #1 while getting the guy he wants and more later on while having to pay his guy less. He'd take the #4 or #5 and a second rounder before he takes Tatum or Jackson #1. #1 contract is 4y 33.5 mil vs 4y 27 mil for #3.

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Ainge didn’t have Fultz number one.

Ainge didn’t have Tatum number one, either.

[smittybanton]

Every report from every credible source the entire year proclaimed that some GMs had Fultz number one, while just as many had others at the top--as they shouldve, considering the small gap in talent between 1-7. If we're playing "what was Danny thinking", I got $5 says he wanted to trade the #1 to Sacramento for the #5 & #10--but Divac was smart enough to hold.

[Sixers2125]

Every report from every credible source the entire year proclaimed that some GMs had Fultz number one, while just as many had others at the top--as they shouldve, considering the small gap in talent between 1-7. If we're playing "what was Danny thinking", I got $5 says he wanted to trade the #1 to Sacramento for the #5 & #10--but Divac was smart enough to hold.

Let's see some of those reports.

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[Hipster Doofus]

Sorry for the distraction, but what's the situation with our picks in the 2018 draft?

Best case scenario? Worst case? Which team should I root for to win/lose during this season?

Thanks.

[Eyeamok]

Sorry for the distraction, but what's the situation with our picks in the 2018 draft?

Best case scenario? Worst case? Which team should I root for to win/lose during this season?

Thanks.

Right now the Lakers pick is 15th overall and our pick is 19th. that Laker Pick better move up but not to much.

[LloydFree]

Every report from every credible source the entire year proclaimed that some GMs had Fultz number one, while just as many had others at the top--as they shouldve, considering the small gap in talent between 1-7. If we're playing "what was Danny thinking", I got $5 says he wanted to trade the #1 to Sacramento for the #5 & #10--but Divac was smart enough to hold.

Let's see some of those reports.

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I'd like to see some of the proof you had that "virtually every GM had Fultz #1". That's BS. All you and every body else knows is that the freelance writers at Draftexpress had him #1.

[Unbreakable99]

Every report from every credible source the entire year proclaimed that some GMs had Fultz number one, while just as many had others at the top--as they shouldve, considering the small gap in talent between 1-7. If we're playing "what was Danny thinking", I got $5 says he wanted to trade the #1 to Sacramento for the #5 & #10--but Divac was smart enough to hold.

Let's see some of those reports.

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I'd like to see some of the proof you had that "virtually every GM had Fultz #1". That's BS. All you and every body else knows is that the freelance writers at Draftexpress had him #1.

For real. We do know the GM who did have the top pick didn’t want him and didn’t have him as the top prospect.

[Sixers2125]

First of all, ainge offered the 3 for the 5 and 10. The Kings snap call the 1 for the 5 and 10. Secondly maybe some had lonzo over fultz but no way would any gm consider anybody else number 1. They were pretty much tier one above everybody else. Josh Jackson was up there too but he fell off a little by the time draft day rolled around. Fultz was never ever dropping to number 3 and anyone who thinks so did not follow the draft at all. Even if he drops to number two there were rumors that the Lakers wanted him.

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[LloydFree]

Let's see some of those reports.

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I'd like to see some of the proof you had that "virtually every GM had Fultz #1". That's BS. All you and every body else knows is that the freelance writers at Draftexpress had him #1.

For real. We do know the GM who did have the top pick didn’t want him and didn’t have him as the top prospect.

Exactly. When in the drafts history, has an "undisputed #1 pick" been offered up for trade to multiple teams? It doesn't happen because those guys are invaluable. There is no price you can pay to go up and get Ben Simmons, John Wall or even Greg Oden. The fact that Ainge was even willing to trade the pick is all the proof you need that he wasn't looked at like that.

[spikeslovechild]

There was no "hype". Fultz is/was the best player in the draft and the trade guaranteed that we got another franchise player to add to our two generational players. Boston didn't need a point guard and LA got tricked into thinking Lonzo was the next Magic Johnson. That is perhaps the only reason why I think that Fultz could have still been around at 3. Not because of some sort of undeserved hype on his behalf.

So you agree Fultz would have been there at three. That’s what I’m saying. Fultz had the hype of being the best player in the draft and that Ainge was going to take him and there was no way he would not go first. If Ainge stays at one Fultz isn’t drafted first.

Oh my bad, I misread your post. Yeah I agree that there is a chance he would have been there at 3, but then again wasn't there a rumor that LA also tried to tried up to #1 for Markelle? So who knows.

It wasn't a rumor Woj reported it.

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[spikeslovechild]

Also
Danny Ainge says the if he didn't trade down to the 3rd overall pick, he still would have drafted Tatum 1st ...
http://www.nbcsports.com/boston/video/ainge-jayson-tatum-we-would-have-taken-him-1st-pick

I hope this ends this stupid speculation that we could have taken Tatum or Fultz 3rd. Wasn't going to happen. I've debunked this nonsense so many times but people keep posting it. If we didn't trade up both Tatum and Fultz would be gone.

So speak of that reality not some alternate one where despite all the reporting the Celtics (directly from Ainge) take Fultz and Lakers take Ball.

[PLO]

Its pretty ironic the two posters arguing over this are the ones who wanted Josh Jackson and Lonzo Ball in the draft over guys like Fultz or Tatum. So like if you two were the GM we'd have some scrub on the roster and we'd have wasted the pick.

[LloydFree]

Its pretty ironic the two posters arguing over this are the ones who wanted Josh Jackson and Lonzo Ball in the draft over guys like Fultz or Tatum. So like if you two were the GM we'd have some scrub on the roster and we'd have wasted the pick.

No. You are incorrect. I'd have a better prospect on the roster than Fultz and we'd still have BOTH the Lakers and Kings unprotected picks.

[Sixers2125]

I'd like to see some of the proof you had that "virtually every GM had Fultz #1". That's BS. All you and every body else knows is that the freelance writers at Draftexpress had him #1.

For real. We do know the GM who did have the top pick didn’t want him and didn’t have him as the top prospect.

Exactly. When in the drafts history, has an "undisputed #1 pick" been offered up for trade to multiple teams? It doesn't happen because those guys are invaluable. There is no price you can pay to go up and get Ben Simmons, John Wall or even Greg Oden. The fact that Ainge was even willing to trade the pick is all the proof you need that he wasn't looked at like that.

When in draft history has the team with the #1 pick been a championship contending team? Come on man, use your head and stop living in this fantasy land where fultz drops to 3. A championship contending team picks a player for best fit. If that player isn't also best available then you trade down and get your guy and additional compensation.

Last time something like this happened was '03, the Pistons took Darko number 2 for need instead of taking bpa. Everyone had Carmelo #2 and obviously they should have traded down. Ainge is too good a gm to make a mistake like that.

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[PLO]

Its pretty ironic the two posters arguing over this are the ones who wanted Josh Jackson and Lonzo Ball in the draft over guys like Fultz or Tatum. So like if you two were the GM we'd have some scrub on the roster and we'd have wasted the pick.

No. You are incorrect. I'd have a better prospect on the roster than Fultz and we'd still have BOTH the Lakers and Kings unprotected picks.

Well, both Jackson and Ball are scrubs in terms of being picked at 3rd in the draft and there's nothing they've shown this season that has proven otherwise. They're certainly not better prospects than Fultz. Ball and Jackson wouldn't be picked top 5 right now in a redraft; if its just based on performance neither would be picked top 10 either.

[LloydFree]

For real. We do know the GM who did have the top pick didn’t want him and didn’t have him as the top prospect.

Exactly. When in the drafts history, has an "undisputed #1 pick" been offered up for trade to multiple teams? It doesn't happen because those guys are invaluable. There is no price you can pay to go up and get Ben Simmons, John Wall or even Greg Oden. The fact that Ainge was even willing to trade the pick is all the proof you need that he wasn't looked at like that.

When in draft history has the team with the #1 pick been a championship contending team? Come on man, use your head and stop living in this fantasy land where fultz drops to 3. A championship contending team picks a player for best fit. If that player isn't also best available then you trade down and get your guy and additional compensation.

Last time something like this happened was '03, the Pistons took Darko number 2 for need instead of taking bpa. Everyone had Carmelo #2 and obviously they should have traded down. Ainge is too good a gm to make a mistake like that.

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Again, your totally wrong. Your Bible, Draftexpress, had Darko #2 and ESPN had him #2. All the same sources you take as the gospel, with regard to Fultz being #1 had Darko over Carmelo, Bosh and Wade.

[Sixers2125]

Exactly. When in the drafts history, has an "undisputed #1 pick" been offered up for trade to multiple teams? It doesn't happen because those guys are invaluable. There is no price you can pay to go up and get Ben Simmons, John Wall or even Greg Oden. The fact that Ainge was even willing to trade the pick is all the proof you need that he wasn't looked at like that.

When in draft history has the team with the #1 pick been a championship contending team? Come on man, use your head and stop living in this fantasy land where fultz drops to 3. A championship contending team picks a player for best fit. If that player isn't also best available then you trade down and get your guy and additional compensation.

Last time something like this happened was '03, the Pistons took Darko number 2 for need instead of taking bpa. Everyone had Carmelo #2 and obviously they should have traded down. Ainge is too good a gm to make a mistake like that.

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Again, your tatally wrong. Your Bible, Draftexpress, had Darko #2 and ESPN had him #2. All the same sources you take as the gospel, with regard to Fultz being #1 had Darko over Carmelo, Bosh and Wade.

Lol I give up. Some people are just meant not too have a clue. I'm guessing you are some teenager and weren't around for that draft.

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