Millsap injury

[NuggetsWY]

I think we are at our best with Barton off the bench and starting Chandler 3. Then bring Barton in at the 3 and move Chandler to the 4 for a stretch lineup.

I agree somewhat. But I think Rebel would point out that Jokic with Faried is good and that doesn't contradict what you are saying. Let Chandler play 30 mpg and half at each forward slot with Barton playing mostly SF. Does this work for you?

Jokic 30 - Plumlee 18
Faried 25 - Chandler 15 - Lyles 8
Chandler 10 mpg - Barton 25 mpg - Hernangomez 8
Harris 30 mpg - Beasley 18 mpg
Murray 30 mpg - Mudiay 18 mpg

It gives Lyles & Hernangomez a few minutes (I'd like to see more) but it also gives us the best chance of winning IMO. Of course if Hernangomez or Lyles or anyone else gets HOT, then let them play more. Because that's what you're supposed to do with shooters.

I was surprised at no Faried against the Rockets. I like Faried starting, but still getting limited minutes. I like having his energy in the lineup, especially to start the game and maybe to start the 3rd. Barton will probably split his time between the 2 & 3. I'd rather see more Juancho than Beasley.
Jokic / Faried / Chandler / Harris / Murray to start. Transition to Jokic/ Chandler / Barton / Harris / Mudiay, then full 2nd unit with Plumlee/ Lyles / Hernangomez / Barton / Mudiay.

Jokic 33 - Plumlee 15
Faried 18 - Chandler 15 - Lyles 15
Chandler 18 mpg - Barton 15 mpg - Hernangomez 15
Harris 33 mpg - Barton 15 mpg
Murray 28 mpg - Mudiay 20 mpg

I'm still a Faried fan also but I love-love-LOVE him coming off the bench, even if he doesn't like it. Against bench players he's something beyond Manimal. But like I mentioned, he just fits so well with Jokic because he seems to find a way to get open heading to the basket (open being a relative term since Jokic doesn't need much of an opening LOL).

I love Beasley and think he might become special, but for now I'll agree with your "rather see more Juancho than Beasley". I certainly wouldn't argue with your lineup approach either.

[The Rebel]

I think we are at our best with Barton off the bench and starting Chandler 3. Then bring Barton in at the 3 and move Chandler to the 4 for a stretch lineup.

I agree somewhat. But I think Rebel would point out that Jokic with Faried is good and that doesn't contradict what you are saying. Let Chandler play 30 mpg and half at each forward slot with Barton playing mostly SF. Does this work for you?

Jokic 30 - Plumlee 18
Faried 25 - Chandler 15 - Lyles 8
Chandler 10 mpg - Barton 25 mpg - Hernangomez 8
Harris 30 mpg - Beasley 18 mpg
Murray 30 mpg - Mudiay 18 mpg

It gives Lyles & Hernangomez a few minutes (I'd like to see more) but it also gives us the best chance of winning IMO. Of course if Hernangomez or Lyles or anyone else gets HOT, then let them play more. Because that's what you're supposed to do with shooters.

You are right, I would point out that Faried and Jokic is a very good pairing, but I would also point out you minute distribution is not going to help us win games.

While Barton is better this year, he still wants the ball in his hands too much for him to fit with the starters, he needs to come off the bench where Mudiay and Plumlee are comfortable without the ball in their hands, plus we need a scorer off the bench.

With Chandler's play this year he should not be getting any extra minutes at PF especially with the depth we have there.

Faried should be starting and getting 20-22 mpg, but to start him we need a shooter at SF to open up lanes.

I said the 1st week of the season that Juancho should be starting, and I still that is the case.

My rotation would be
Murray(25)Mudiay(23)
Harris(32)Barton(8)Beasley(8)
Juancho(16) Chandler(12)Barton(20)
Faried(22) Juancho(12) Chandler(14)
Jokic(30)Plumlee(15) Faried(3)

[NuggetsWY]

You are right, I would point out that Faried and Jokic is a very good pairing, but I would also point out you minute distribution is not going to help us win games.

While Barton is better this year, he still wants the ball in his hands too much for him to fit with the starters, he needs to come off the bench where Mudiay and Plumlee are comfortable without the ball in their hands, plus we need a scorer off the bench.

With Chandler's play this year he should not be getting any extra minutes at PF especially with the depth we have there.

Faried should be starting and getting 20-22 mpg, but to start him we need a shooter at SF to open up lanes.

I said the 1st week of the season that Juancho should be starting, and I still that is the case.

My rotation would be
Murray(25)Mudiay(23)
Harris(32)Barton(8)Beasley(8)
Juancho(16) Chandler(12)Barton(20)
Faried(22) Juancho(12) Chandler(14)
Jokic(30)Plumlee(15) Faried(3)

Pretty much agree but I was actually trying to figure out what Malone would do.

My preferred rotation might be something like:
Jokic(32) Plumlee(16)
Faried(24) Lyles(12) Hernangomez(12)
Chandler(24) Barton(16) Hernangomez(8)
Harris(32) Barton(8) Beasley(8)
Murray(32) Mudiay(16)

Watching either of those lineups might change who is playing after Millsap comes back - might change things drastically.

[MidMountain]

The actual distribution from last night:
Jokic 36 - Plumlee 12
Faried 31 - Lyles 17
Chandler 23 - Barton 7 - Juancho 18
Harris 38 - Barton 10
Murray 37 - Mudiay 11

There was heavy reliance on the starters. Chandler's back was probably bothering him, so more Faried.

[NuggetsWY]

The actual distribution from last night:
Jokic 36 - Plumlee 12
Faried 31 - Lyles 17
Chandler 23 - Barton 7 - Juancho 18
Harris 38 - Barton 10
Murray 37 - Mudiay 11

There was heavy reliance on the starters. Chandler's back was probably bothering him, so more Faried.

Thanks - I should have thought to look at that myself, and I didn't.

Perfect center rotation IMO, although a few less minutes for Jokic would be nice in a blow-out game.
Love the PF rotation too and keep Hernangomez in mind for some minutes here, if necessary.
Really like the SF rotation.
SG rotation was heavy minutes on Harris but for occasional games, that's cool. Give a few of those minutes to Beasley and I'm a happy little boy.
PG rotation was heavy minutes for Murray, but in some games that's great. As much of a Murray fan as I am, I'm not so sure his minutes were due to his play (which was pretty good) as it was to Mudiay's ineffectiveness IMO. Mudiay's had some nice games this year, but he still has more problems than Murray.

[NuggetsWY]

Did anyone else notice Scott Hastings pointing out both Mudiay & Murray shying away from contact on the defensive end? I get it, collisions hurt and in Barton's case, he's often the smaller player. But there have been "smaller" players that were notorious for taking charges and such. Mudiay I just don't understand. He's got a solid build and appears to be very strong, but he just seems afraid to finish in a crowd - even though he's not afraid to drive into a crowd. Plus he does shy away from letting moving players hit him both on offense and defense. I suspect he's stronger than most PGs and even many SGs and some SFs too. I wish he'd learn to use that strength. I know Billups has talked to him and he was great at using his strength - a good role model.

[Powder Blue]

Been a week since the injury. Has there been a decision on treatment? Last I read he was seeking out other opinions

[NuggetsWY]

Been a week since the injury. Has there been a decision on treatment? Last I read he was seeking out other opinions

Looked this morning and nothing new - still waiting to see what the experts say. I guess he saw someone in LA (maybe not a specialist). Then flew to Denver to see the Nuggets' medical staff. There was even a report that he saw/or was going to see someone in Atlanta (not sure on the last one). You gotta think they know whether it needs surgery or not. Then again, sometimes it can go either way, so maybe they still haven't decided.

[The Rebel]

Lets just hope he listens to the specialists and doesn't get a wild hair and try some experimental treatment like Gallo did a couple of years ago.

[skywalker33]

I think we are at our best with Barton off the bench and starting Chandler 3. Then bring Barton in at the 3 and move Chandler to the 4 for a stretch lineup.

I agree somewhat. But I think Rebel would point out that Jokic with Faried is good and that doesn't contradict what you are saying. Let Chandler play 30 mpg and half at each forward slot with Barton playing mostly SF. Does this work for you?

Jokic 30 - Plumlee 18
Faried 25 - Chandler 15 - Lyles 8
Chandler 10 mpg - Barton 25 mpg - Hernangomez 8
Harris 30 mpg - Beasley 18 mpg
Murray 30 mpg - Mudiay 18 mpg

It gives Lyles & Hernangomez a few minutes (I'd like to see more) but it also gives us the best chance of winning IMO. Of course if Hernangomez or Lyles or anyone else gets HOT, then let them play more. Because that's what you're supposed to do with shooters.

You are right, I would point out that Faried and Jokic is a very good pairing, but I would also point out you minute distribution is not going to help us win games.

While Barton is better this year, he still wants the ball in his hands too much for him to fit with the starters, he needs to come off the bench where Mudiay and Plumlee are comfortable without the ball in their hands, plus we need a scorer off the bench.

With Chandler's play this year he should not be getting any extra minutes at PF especially with the depth we have there.

Faried should be starting and getting 20-22 mpg, but to start him we need a shooter at SF to open up lanes.

I said the 1st week of the season that Juancho should be starting, and I still that is the case.

My rotation would be
Murray(25)Mudiay(23)
Harris(32)Barton(8)Beasley(8)
Juancho(16) Chandler(12)Barton(20)
Faried(22) Juancho(12) Chandler(14)
Jokic(30)Plumlee(15) Faried(3)

[HoopsMalone]

The thing you've got to worry about with Millsap out is the defense. The offense should be fine as Millsap isn't that good offensively and he was clogging things up for Jokic's passing and his possessions on the block.

No way around it, Wilson Chandler is having a TERRIBLE year at SF. If you leave him at SF and play those other guys at PF you essentially have two Zero's in the lineup the entire game...

I think the optimal way to fix this is to move Chandler/Juancho to PF and try to trade some combo of the young guys for a legit SF while also bumping a good bit of Barton's minutes to SF.

The idea is to mitigate the damage at both the SF and PF positions and just relying on jokic's dominance to try to play ~.500 ball until Millsap hopefully returns healthy for the playoffs. With Utah missing Gobert, Clips missing everyone, and the grizz missing Conley, .500 should be more than good enough to get in.

[NuggetsWY]

The thing you've got to worry about with Millsap out is the defense. The offense should be fine as Millsap isn't that good offensively and he was clogging things up for Jokic's passing and his possessions on the block.

No way around it, Wilson Chandler is having a TERRIBLE year at SF. If you leave him at SF and play those other guys at PF you essentially have two Zero's in the lineup the entire game...

I think the optimal way to fix this is to move Chandler/Juancho to PF and try to trade some combo of the young guys for a legit SF while also bumping a good bit of Barton's minutes to SF.

The idea is to mitigate the damage at both the SF and PF positions and just relying on jokic's dominance to try to play ~.500 ball until Millsap hopefully returns healthy for the playoffs. With Utah missing Gobert, Clips missing everyone, and the grizz missing Conley, .500 should be more than good enough to get in.

Fascinating to see how you think - ""Millsap isn't that good offensively" - he's our second leading scorer and he's third on the team in assists.

[skywalker33]

The actual distribution from last night:
Jokic 36 - Plumlee 12
Faried 31 - Lyles 17
Chandler 23 - Barton 7 - Juancho 18
Harris 38 - Barton 10
Murray 37 - Mudiay 11

There was heavy reliance on the starters. Chandler's back was probably bothering him, so more Faried.

Like that Lyles is getting some minutes, Chandler and Juancho’s mins need to be swapped and I think Mudiay needs a few more mins, seems he needs a few to get going when he doesn’t start off hot. As long as Jokic and Harris are ok with that mins load, but I’d drop both down to 33-35 but that depends on the flow of the game

[HoopsMalone]

The thing you've got to worry about with Millsap out is the defense. The offense should be fine as Millsap isn't that good offensively and he was clogging things up for Jokic's passing and his possessions on the block.

No way around it, Wilson Chandler is having a TERRIBLE year at SF. If you leave him at SF and play those other guys at PF you essentially have two Zero's in the lineup the entire game...

I think the optimal way to fix this is to move Chandler/Juancho to PF and try to trade some combo of the young guys for a legit SF while also bumping a good bit of Barton's minutes to SF.

The idea is to mitigate the damage at both the SF and PF positions and just relying on jokic's dominance to try to play ~.500 ball until Millsap hopefully returns healthy for the playoffs. With Utah missing Gobert, Clips missing everyone, and the grizz missing Conley, .500 should be more than good enough to get in.

Fascinating to see how you think - ""Millsap isn't that good offensively" - he's our second leading scorer and he's third on the team in assists.

Those are just numbers. Zero context.

[NuggetsWY]

The thing you've got to worry about with Millsap out is the defense. The offense should be fine as Millsap isn't that good offensively and he was clogging things up for Jokic's passing and his possessions on the block.

No way around it, Wilson Chandler is having a TERRIBLE year at SF. If you leave him at SF and play those other guys at PF you essentially have two Zero's in the lineup the entire game...

I think the optimal way to fix this is to move Chandler/Juancho to PF and try to trade some combo of the young guys for a legit SF while also bumping a good bit of Barton's minutes to SF.

The idea is to mitigate the damage at both the SF and PF positions and just relying on jokic's dominance to try to play ~.500 ball until Millsap hopefully returns healthy for the playoffs. With Utah missing Gobert, Clips missing everyone, and the grizz missing Conley, .500 should be more than good enough to get in.

Fascinating to see how you think - ""Millsap isn't that good offensively" - he's our second leading scorer and he's third on the team in assists.

Those are just numbers. Zero context.

Sure is nice to have you tell us the real truth. Here all those years and all those people were looking at statistics to determine how players were doing. So can we assume Jabbar wasn't all that good even though he scored the most points?

[HoopsMalone]

Fascinating to see how you think - ""Millsap isn't that good offensively" - he's our second leading scorer and he's third on the team in assists.

Those are just numbers. Zero context.

Sure is nice to have you tell us the real truth. Here all those years and all those people were looking at statistics to determine how players were doing. So can we assume Jabbar wasn't all that good even though he scored the most points?

Well I certainly don't think looking at something as basic as "points scored" and "assists" is really enough to pretend you're performing some kind of deep basketball analysis. If that was the case an 8 year old could be a successful coach or GM...

He used possessions to get those stats. Now those possessions are available for other basketball players to use. It's not like they suddenly have to just drop kick the ball out of bounds 17 times a game now that Millsap is in street clothes. I doubt we see much drop-off on offense...

[skywalker33]

Fascinating to see how you think - ""Millsap isn't that good offensively" - he's our second leading scorer and he's third on the team in assists.

Those are just numbers. Zero context.

Sure is nice to have you tell us the real truth. Here all those years and all those people were looking at statistics to determine how players were doing. So can we assume Jabbar wasn't all that good even though he scored the most points?

So you finally got the green font....NICE !!

[MidMountain]

Those are just numbers. Zero context.

Sure is nice to have you tell us the real truth. Here all those years and all those people were looking at statistics to determine how players were doing. So can we assume Jabbar wasn't all that good even though he scored the most points?

Well I certainly don't think looking at something as basic as "points scored" and "assists" is really enough to pretend you're performing some kind of deep basketball analysis. If that was the case an 8 year old could be a successful coach or GM...

He used possessions to get those stats. Now those possessions are available for other basketball players to use. It's not like they suddenly have to just drop kick the ball out of bounds 17 times a game now that Millsap is in street clothes. I doubt we see much drop-off on offense...

Where are your analytics that show Millsap is poor offensively? Without some evidence, it's just your opinion.

[Powder Blue]

I don't mean to interrupt, just dropped by to report that....

“Paul Millsap underwent successful reconstructive surgery today on his left wrist ligament injury with UCHealth surgeon Dr. Frank Scott. There is no exact timetable for his return, but he is expected to miss the next several months. His return to sport progression will be dependent upon consistent assessment throughout the rehab process.”

[SoCalNuggsFan]

Fascinating to see how you think - ""Millsap isn't that good offensively" - he's our second leading scorer and he's third on the team in assists.

Those are just numbers. Zero context.

Sure is nice to have you tell us the real truth. Here all those years and all those people were looking at statistics to determine how players were doing. So can we assume Jabbar wasn't all that good even though he scored the most points?

Some people on this site just like to think that their eyes are the only things that can properly comprehend what’s happening on a basketball court.