2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc)

[smittybanton]

BKN with a road win. Hope they get their hands on Nerlens. Would be great if the Nets finish with a better record than the Lakers. Kenny Atkinson, 'the guard whisperer', doing a good job up there.

[spikeslovechild]

BKN with a road win. Hope they get their hands on Nerlens. Would be great if the Nets finish with a better record than the Lakers. Kenny Atkinson, 'the guard whisperer', doing a good job up there.

If BKN wanted him they could have taken him earlier. Don't see why they sign him now besides I'm still hoping to trade Okafor + bayless to them.

[long range bomber]

I get what you saying but I wil point out a few things:

1. It pointless to say "nothing is guaranteed" because we all know this.

2. You say "why worry about something that may or may not happen". It is not worrying, it is planning.

3. Analysing the BOS/PHI pick situatiom is doubly important as the competition between BOS and PHI is zero-sum. They are competing for the same division, same conference and now the same picks.

Also you're last statement of " We could like Golden State where we have Embiid/Max FA/Simmons and enough Cap space to sign another Star so yeah anything is possible". - We actually could only afford 1 max FA (provided Bayless is moved for capspace). Not 1 max free agent and enough capspace for another star.

Plan away mate haha I am down with that, I just don't like hearing people complain and act like the world is crumbling because BC traded a pick that may or may not end up having a huge affect if We get a max FA and Fultz pans out and if not we could mange to clear out enough cap space in 2019 when that Sac pick is due to have 2 max free agents/Embiid and Simmons since He will be on a rookie contract still.

if you check the numbers, there is no chance at a max FA in 2018 AND IN 2019.

Also my main point is that people seem to forget how we got here (on the brink of a Dynasty) and how other Dynasties like the 80s LA/BOS or 90s Bulls kept adding talent even when they had their core set. Adding HOFers Worthy, Walton, Kukoc, Rodman through existing assets even after they already won championships.

The Process was always about maximising each potential avenue at your disposal. Just because you have a Max FA and Fultz does not mean you should be more liberal in trading away future assets such as high picks or cost certainty in players like Saric, etc. Each decision should be valid both on its own AND in the grand scheme of things.

[smittybanton]

BKN with a road win. Hope they get their hands on Nerlens. Would be great if the Nets finish with a better record than the Lakers. Kenny Atkinson, 'the guard whisperer', doing a good job up there.

If BKN wanted him they could have taken him earlier. Don't see why they sign him now besides I'm still hoping to trade Okafor + bayless to them.

Not necessarily true. They may not have wanted Nerlens at the price he was asking. They could still use him at this price for this year. And we don't know if Nerlens' negotiation stance has changed, which it ought to have by now.

That said, I'm interested in who you want from Okafor and Bayless? That's $12M to take back.

[long range bomber]

BKN with a road win. Hope they get their hands on Nerlens. Would be great if the Nets finish with a better record than the Lakers. Kenny Atkinson, 'the guard whisperer', doing a good job up there.

If BKN wanted him they could have taken him earlier. Don't see why they sign him now besides I'm still hoping to trade Okafor + bayless to them.

Not necessarily true. They may not have wanted Nerlens at the price he was asking. They could still use him at this price for this year. And we don't know if Nerlens' negotiation stance has changed, which it ought to have by now.

That said, I'm interested in who you want from Okafor and Bayless? That's $12M to take back.

I think when People bring up the Proposed Bayless to Nets trade, it is usually for the expiring contract of Trevor Booker. Nets won’t necessarily need capspace next year but do need some guard depth this year as Russell and Lin are both currently out. PHI lose a non-critical piece this year and gain more capspace for next year.

[smittybanton]

If BKN wanted him they could have taken him earlier. Don't see why they sign him now besides I'm still hoping to trade Okafor + bayless to them.

Not necessarily true. They may not have wanted Nerlens at the price he was asking. They could still use him at this price for this year. And we don't know if Nerlens' negotiation stance has changed, which it ought to have by now.

That said, I'm interested in who you want from Okafor and Bayless? That's $12M to take back.

I think when People bring up the Proposed Bayless to Nets trade, it is usually for the expiring contract of Trevor Booker. Nets won’t necessarily need capspace next year but do need some guard depth this year as Russell and Lin are both currently out. PHI lose a non-critical piece this year and gain more capspace for next year.

got it. that'd be fine by me.

[LloydFree]

If BKN wanted him they could have taken him earlier. Don't see why they sign him now besides I'm still hoping to trade Okafor + bayless to them.

Not necessarily true. They may not have wanted Nerlens at the price he was asking. They could still use him at this price for this year. And we don't know if Nerlens' negotiation stance has changed, which it ought to have by now.

That said, I'm interested in who you want from Okafor and Bayless? That's $12M to take back.

I think when People bring up the Proposed Bayless to Nets trade, it is usually for the expiring contract of Trevor Booker. Nets won’t necessarily need capspace next year but do need some guard depth this year as Russell and Lin are both currently out. PHI lose a non-critical piece this year and gain more capspace for next year.

Brooklyn taking Bayless would be a dumb move on their part. They don't need the cap space next year, but Lin can opt back in to his contract, coming off an injury and Russell is coming back. They'll have like 8 guards, with 4 of them making big money.

[long range bomber]

They would be simply taking on Bayless’ contract to receive a minor asset from Philly, just like how they took on Carrol(salary dump) for a 1st. Bayless’ contract is smaller and shorter than Carroll’s so it would be less than a 1st rounder so maybe a 2nd our overseas prospect?

[the_process]

I don’t see BKN taking on Bayless, but a short list of teams who might: ATL, CHI, and DAL.

[long range bomber]

I don’t see BKN taking on Bayless, but a short list of teams who might: ATL, CHI, and DAL.

BRK has Russell and Lin out for a while and Dinwiddie and Joe Harris playing major minutes and they are fringe NBA players. They definitely need more backcourt help than ATL(Schroeder, Prince, Belinelli as 3 of their top 4 scorer), DAL(Ferrell, Smith Jr, Mathews, Barea, Harris as 5 of Top 7 scorers) or CHI(Holiday, Dunn, Grant)

[Wilfried]

Lakers are bottom 5 now

[Unbreakable99]

Lakers are bottom 5 now

Wait until January 1st. They will be much further down. They will be no higher than 2.

[broseph13]

I hope this team keeps the LA pick this year and snatches up Collin Sexton. He's way more talented than Fultz and could be the scoring guard we need alongside Ben, imo.

[chris4celts]

That Laker pick is looking "2-5ish".

[spikeslovechild]

That Laker pick is looking "2-5ish".

Yeah, unless the pick falls in the 2-3 range I still think we won the trade assuming Fultz is the same player we thought he was when we drafted him.

This draft is big heavy and we needed a guard. Plus the depth just isn't there compared to last years. Bragley and Ayton are definately better then anyone drafted last year but Porter was sort the 3rd guy but now he has medical concerns.

If the Celtics pick 4th or 5th and draft someone like Bamba or Sexton. I probably still do the deal. If they get Bragley or Ayton or Porter it was still a bad trade even if Fultz is who we think he is but I'd still be at loathe to criticize the trade. We are talking odds and percentages plus lottery balls.

[chris4celts]

That Laker pick is looking "2-5ish".

Yeah, unless the pick falls in the 2-3 range I still think we won the trade assuming Fultz is the same player we thought he was when we drafted him.

This draft is big heavy and we needed a guard. Plus the depth just isn't there compared to last years. Bragley and Ayton are definately better then anyone drafted last year but Porter was sort the 3rd guy but now he has medical concerns.

If the Celtics pick 4th or 5th and draft someone like Bamba or Sexton. I probably still do the deal. If they get Bragley or Ayton or Porter it was still a bad trade even if Fultz is who we think he is but I'd still be at loathe to criticize the trade. We are talking odds and percentages plus lottery balls.

While I admit that the verdict on Fultz is not in - and I wish the Sixers and Fultz well - I think we're living in two different versions of reality.

[spikeslovechild]

That Laker pick is looking "2-5ish".

Yeah, unless the pick falls in the 2-3 range I still think we won the trade assuming Fultz is the same player we thought he was when we drafted him.

This draft is big heavy and we needed a guard. Plus the depth just isn't there compared to last years. Bragley and Ayton are definately better then anyone drafted last year but Porter was sort the 3rd guy but now he has medical concerns.

If the Celtics pick 4th or 5th and draft someone like Bamba or Sexton. I probably still do the deal. If they get Bragley or Ayton or Porter it was still a bad trade even if Fultz is who we think he is but I'd still be at loathe to criticize the trade. We are talking odds and percentages plus lottery balls.

While I admit that the verdict on Fultz is not in - and I wish the Sixers and Fultz well - I think we're living in two different versions of reality.

The reality of Fultz and the Lakers pick is not settled we'll know by the draft if this was a bad move or not.

[Unbreakable99]

That Laker pick is looking "2-5ish".

Yeah, unless the pick falls in the 2-3 range I still think we won the trade assuming Fultz is the same player we thought he was when we drafted him.

This draft is big heavy and we needed a guard. Plus the depth just isn't there compared to last years. Bragley and Ayton are definately better then anyone drafted last year but Porter was sort the 3rd guy but now he has medical concerns.

If the Celtics pick 4th or 5th and draft someone like Bamba or Sexton. I probably still do the deal. If they get Bragley or Ayton or Porter it was still a bad trade even if Fultz is who we think he is but I'd still be at loathe to criticize the trade. We are talking odds and percentages plus lottery balls.

We lost that trade the second Colangelo made the deal. It’s just going to be compounded when the Celtics get the pick. We aren’t getting that pick. Dumb trade than and it looks even dumber now.

[Sixerscan]

Hate to ruin the bed wetting parade they are only tied for 6th...

[Baller1234a]

Hate to ruin the bed wetting parade they are only tied for 6th...

Next 10 games are brutal