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[vege]

You know what? Of all the franchises in the NBA The Orlando magic have been run like a farm team for the rest of the league.

There has been so much talent come and gone that I believe any other franchise would have either a title or two, or at least a bunch of conference banners.

The talent bleed there is just absurd with bad deal after bad deal. At some point the fan base(which seems highly transitional)is just going to give up.

How many players have the traded, lost, or bungled away in the past ten years? In Detroit some of us bemoan the loss of Khris Middleton. Look at what the magic have lost just in the past few years;(off the top of my head)

Oladipo
Harris
Ibaka
Sabonis

That's crazy, and some trades were just so bad(the Harris trade and the Ibaka rental)it makes you wonder if anyone in their front office actually understands how the game works.

I fully expect another dumbass trade and talent fleece to take place if they keep losing games. Im sure the Pistons can upgrade again somewhere thanks to the extensive farm system in Orlando.

They changed the FO after last season mate



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doesn't really mean anything. Gotta prove it. How,many times have they changed the front office before? This has been happening for a long time in Orlando. Same could be said of Milwaukee.

Business as usual until proven otherwise.

[vege]

But if by any chance Orlando want to help us I would do absolutely anything possible to steal Jonathon Simmons and Marrese Speights from them, they're both so underrated and they would make us so good.

[Kilo]

Memphis fires Head Coach Fitzdale. I guess it was Gasol or Fitz and the management chose the player.

[Pharaoh]

Memphis fires Head Coach Fitzdale. I guess it was Gasol or Fitz and the management chose the player.

Very weird considering Fiz was highly regarded before taking the Grizz job.

"Take that for Data" gets fired by "Per" despite the fact they lost Zach & Allen and everyone thought they'd struggle big time

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[nastassiav]

Why isn't this team trading a 2nd round pick to acquire Jhalil okafor? Lol

[Pharaoh]

Why isn't this team trading a 2nd round pick to acquire Jhalil okafor? Lol

1 - Philly would want more than a 2nd from us

2 - we're too busy trying to unload Dre & RJ due to their horrible contracts

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[GreekAlex]

I just saw a Lakers fan that said they want to resign KCP in the offseason for 12-14M for 2-3 years



Can't wait till his agent hears that

[Pharaoh]

I just saw a Lakers fan that said they want to resign KCP in the offseason for 12-14M for 2-3 years



Can't wait till his agent hears that

Dude might not have a choice - he hasn't really shown much thus far

If anything I think with every passing game he's hurting himself

Teams apparently now break positions down as:

Ball handlers
Wings
Bigs

KCP is not a ball handler and is not really big enough to be a wing - he struggles big time against larger 2s and 3s/4s

So if he's not out there as a handler, can't switch onto bigger wings, can't shoot it from 3 at a league average clip...

As much as you can value defense there's 2 sides of the court and I think his weaknesses offensively will hurt him.

Look at SJ & Smart - worst case scenario they can at least make plays and handle the ball, can defend multiple positions...

KCP is gonna regret passing up $18 mil per IMO and truth be told we dodged a massive bullet there

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[GreekAlex]

I just saw a Lakers fan that said they want to resign KCP in the offseason for 12-14M for 2-3 years



Can't wait till his agent hears that

Dude might not have a choice - he hasn't really shown much thus far

If anything I think with every passing game he's hurting himself

Teams apparently now break positions down as:

Ball handlers
Wings
Bigs

KCP is not a ball handler and is not really big enough to be a wing - he struggles big time against larger 2s and 3s/4s

So if he's not out there as a handler, can't switch onto bigger wings, can't shoot it from 3 at a league average clip...

As much as you can value defense there's 2 sides of the court and I think his weaknesses offensively will hurt him.

Look at SJ & Smart - worst case scenario they can at least make plays and handle the ball, can defend multiple positions...

KCP is gonna regret passing up $18 mil per IMO and truth be told we dodged a massive bullet there

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ABs leadership is really impacting this team and that's why it's easy to turn the page on KCP.

I just find it interesting how other teams fan bases look at former Pistons after they join their teams.

[detroitKG]

Sry I had to, seemed relevant...

Read on Twitter

[mattao313]

I just saw a Lakers fan that said they want to resign KCP in the offseason for 12-14M for 2-3 years



Can't wait till his agent hears that

Dude might not have a choice - he hasn't really shown much thus far

If anything I think with every passing game he's hurting himself

Teams apparently now break positions down as:

Ball handlers
Wings
Bigs

KCP is not a ball handler and is not really big enough to be a wing - he struggles big time against larger 2s and 3s/4s

So if he's not out there as a handler, can't switch onto bigger wings, can't shoot it from 3 at a league average clip...

As much as you can value defense there's 2 sides of the court and I think his weaknesses offensively will hurt him.

Look at SJ & Smart - worst case scenario they can at least make plays and handle the ball, can defend multiple positions...

KCP is gonna regret passing up $18 mil per IMO and truth be told we dodged a massive bullet there

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Cmon man KCP is waayy better than Stanley teams don't even pay attention to Stanley on defense. Its not like Avery is some ball handler either, he has a spike in usage on our team and is having a career year in turnovers while averaging less assist than KCP.

[Pugz]

I just saw a Lakers fan that said they want to resign KCP in the offseason for 12-14M for 2-3 years



Can't wait till his agent hears that

Dude might not have a choice - he hasn't really shown much thus far

If anything I think with every passing game he's hurting himself

Teams apparently now break positions down as:

Ball handlers
Wings
Bigs

KCP is not a ball handler and is not really big enough to be a wing - he struggles big time against larger 2s and 3s/4s

So if he's not out there as a handler, can't switch onto bigger wings, can't shoot it from 3 at a league average clip...

As much as you can value defense there's 2 sides of the court and I think his weaknesses offensively will hurt him.

Look at SJ & Smart - worst case scenario they can at least make plays and handle the ball, can defend multiple positions...

KCP is gonna regret passing up $18 mil per IMO and truth be told we dodged a massive bullet there

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Cmon man KCP is waayy better than Stanley teams don't even pay attention to Stanley on defense. Its not like Avery is some ball handler either, he has a spike in usage on our team and is having a career year in turnovers while averaging less assist than KCP.

im by no means a fan if stanley. hes scared and second guesses everything he does on offense, EXCEPT when hes helping run plays. he can handle the ball well enough and he helps initiate offense better than kcp can. kcp is pretty bad, regardless of his scoring. hes way too inconsistent to even worry about. but stanley can be left wide open a lot too. right now he fits in the lineup because he defense helps a lot but hes definitely someone we could replace with an alright defender and better scorer and improve.

[DetroitPistons]

Twolves choke a home win away against the Wizards without Wall... Pitiful. That team is not that great.

[mattao313]

Dude might not have a choice - he hasn't really shown much thus far

If anything I think with every passing game he's hurting himself

Teams apparently now break positions down as:

Ball handlers
Wings
Bigs

KCP is not a ball handler and is not really big enough to be a wing - he struggles big time against larger 2s and 3s/4s

So if he's not out there as a handler, can't switch onto bigger wings, can't shoot it from 3 at a league average clip...

As much as you can value defense there's 2 sides of the court and I think his weaknesses offensively will hurt him.

Look at SJ & Smart - worst case scenario they can at least make plays and handle the ball, can defend multiple positions...

KCP is gonna regret passing up $18 mil per IMO and truth be told we dodged a massive bullet there

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Cmon man KCP is waayy better than Stanley teams don't even pay attention to Stanley on defense. Its not like Avery is some ball handler either, he has a spike in usage on our team and is having a career year in turnovers while averaging less assist than KCP.

im by no means a fan if stanley. hes scared and second guesses everything he does on offense, EXCEPT when hes helping run plays. he can handle the ball well enough and he helps initiate offense better than kcp can. kcp is pretty bad, regardless of his scoring. hes way too inconsistent to even worry about. but stanley can be left wide open a lot too. right now he fits in the lineup because he defense helps a lot but hes definitely someone we could replace with an alright defender and better scorer and improve.

In what way does stanley handle the ball? Bringing it up court? I mean KCP can do that. I see Stanley is really overrated for some reason

[Pharaoh]

Cmon man KCP is waayy better than Stanley teams don't even pay attention to Stanley on defense. Its not like Avery is some ball handler either, he has a spike in usage on our team and is having a career year in turnovers while averaging less assist than KCP.

im by no means a fan if stanley. hes scared and second guesses everything he does on offense, EXCEPT when hes helping run plays. he can handle the ball well enough and he helps initiate offense better than kcp can. kcp is pretty bad, regardless of his scoring. hes way too inconsistent to even worry about. but stanley can be left wide open a lot too. right now he fits in the lineup because he defense helps a lot but hes definitely someone we could replace with an alright defender and better scorer and improve.

In what way does stanley handle the ball? Bringing it up court? I mean KCP can do that. I see Stanley is really overrated for some reason

I find your lack of understanding disturbing

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[mattao313]

im by no means a fan if stanley. hes scared and second guesses everything he does on offense, EXCEPT when hes helping run plays. he can handle the ball well enough and he helps initiate offense better than kcp can. kcp is pretty bad, regardless of his scoring. hes way too inconsistent to even worry about. but stanley can be left wide open a lot too. right now he fits in the lineup because he defense helps a lot but hes definitely someone we could replace with an alright defender and better scorer and improve.

In what way does stanley handle the ball? Bringing it up court? I mean KCP can do that. I see Stanley is really overrated for some reason

I find your lack of understanding disturbing

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Lack of understanding what? Stanley plays defense and bricks open shot he isn't a ball handler, bring the ball up the court and throwing it to Reggie or Drummond isn't being a ball handler. He has a freaking 13 usg% lower then any guy in the rotation other than Moreland. He also has lower ppg and ast/ast% than KCP so please tell me what exactly he's doing with this "ball handling" abilty of his.

[Pharaoh]

In what way does stanley handle the ball? Bringing it up court? I mean KCP can do that. I see Stanley is really overrated for some reason

I find your lack of understanding disturbing

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Lack of understanding what? Stanley plays defense and bricks open shot he isn't a ball handler, bring the ball up the court and throwing it to Reggie or Drummond isn't being a ball handler. He has a freaking 13 usg% lower then any guy in the rotation other than Moreland. He also has lower ppg and ast/ast% than KCP so please tell me what exactly he's doing with this "ball handling" abilty of his.

You simply don't understand his value on either end of the court mate.

It's like trying to explain why Tayshaun Prince, Shane Battier, Joe Ingles, Marcus Smart are worth your time - if you refuse to acknowledge it why would anyone attempt to open your eyes?

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[mattao313]

I find your lack of understanding disturbing

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Lack of understanding what? Stanley plays defense and bricks open shot he isn't a ball handler, bring the ball up the court and throwing it to Reggie or Drummond isn't being a ball handler. He has a freaking 13 usg% lower then any guy in the rotation other than Moreland. He also has lower ppg and ast/ast% than KCP so please tell me what exactly he's doing with this "ball handling" abilty of his.

You simply don't understand his value on either end of the court mate.

It's like trying to explain why Tayshaun Prince, Shane Battier, Joe Ingles, Marcus Smart are worth your time - if you refuse to acknowledge it why would anyone attempt to open your eyes?

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What? You said he's a ball handler while KCP is not. Please give me one reason how Stanley is a ball handler.

Also Stanley is not even close to any of those guys. Prince, Battier, Ingles are all much better on offense and defense. And Smart is actually a ball handler so I don't see the comparison.

[In SVG We Trust]

Pharaoh will you ever admit you were wrong at any topic?

[MotownMadness]

Lack of understanding what? Stanley plays defense and bricks open shot he isn't a ball handler, bring the ball up the court and throwing it to Reggie or Drummond isn't being a ball handler. He has a freaking 13 usg% lower then any guy in the rotation other than Moreland. He also has lower ppg and ast/ast% than KCP so please tell me what exactly he's doing with this "ball handling" abilty of his.

You simply don't understand his value on either end of the court mate.

It's like trying to explain why Tayshaun Prince, Shane Battier, Joe Ingles, Marcus Smart are worth your time - if you refuse to acknowledge it why would anyone attempt to open your eyes?

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What? You said he's a ball handler while KCP is not. Please give me one reason how Stanley is a ball handler.

Also Stanley is not even close to any of those guys. Prince, Battier, Ingles are all much better on offense and defense. And Smart is actually a ball handler so I don't see the comparison.

Maybe he's meaning playmaker