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Re: what's OG anunoby's potential? 

Post#61 » by Frank Dux » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:08 pm

I find it laughable how often people are willing to compare prospects to superstars like Kawhi. He won’t ever be near that level.
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Re: what's OG anunoby's potential? 

Post#62 » by xxSnEaKyPxx » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:09 pm

These threads never end up well on the GB. Should just stick to the players teams forum.
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Re: what's OG anunoby's potential? 

Post#63 » by Yallbecrazy » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:24 pm

The_Hater wrote:Based on what I’ve seen so far he’s a lot like Jaylen Brown was last season, and I don’t think either of them have the handle, shake and overall offensive skill to be elite scorers. Very good all around players? Sure.


What? Jaylen was terrible last season. OG is already a positive player
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Re: what's OG anunoby's potential? 

Post#64 » by sule » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:43 pm

Frank Dux wrote:I find it laughable how often people are willing to compare prospects to superstars like Kawhi. He won’t ever be near that level.


Ceiling: Kawhi Leonard
Floor: Bruno Caboclo

Right now OG is closer to Kawhi than he is to Bruno. But that just might be b/c OG and Kawhi play in the same league :lol:
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Re: what's OG anunoby's potential? 

Post#65 » by WinterSoldier » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:46 pm

I could see him being a mix between Robert Covington and Rondae Hollis Jefferson. He could be even a little better than both of them but if Raptor fans are expecting Kawhi Leonard or Paul George I feel they will be severely let down. He will likely never be #1 or #2 option because of a complete inability to create for himself.
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Re: what's OG anunoby's potential? 

Post#66 » by Ice Trae » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:49 pm

more athletic mbah a moute
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Re: what's OG anunoby's potential? 

Post#67 » by Yallbecrazy » Wed Nov 29, 2017 1:25 am

Rather than player comparisons I think it would be wise to look at his skills individually.
I think he has the potential to be the best on ball wing defender in the modern era with his quickness, anticipation, strength and length. I don't think he can ever be the total defender of someone like Lebron because while his BBIQ is well above average it's not near the level of some of the top players in the game, so his help defense won't be as good. (His steal and block rates in college are unmatched by anyone- stats that are the best predictors of defensive success in the NBA. Only Roberson was close and that was as a senior in a weak conference. OG played in one of the best)

Offensively he will be able to make open 3s, make smart passes and finish at the rim really well with his strength and coordination. He has a very long way to go to ever be able to be the primary offensive option like a Kawhi, but he does have good passing, very good rim finishing and great athleticism (strength +explosiveness). He could develop into a big weapon offensively by improving his handle enough and his shot enough that he could attack players that have to close out aggressively on him and be elite at getting to the rim and either finishing or finding the open man for an easy basket.

He seems to have the demeanor, work ethic, and intelligence to be a megaelite secondary weapon in my opinion, to the point where he could be more valuable than a lot of the better primary players in the league because of the ability to neutralize other stars and still be quite effective on the offensive end.
Of course that's the ceiling, the floor is more like a shut down defender with decent 3pt shooting (super valuable role player)
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Re: what's OG anunoby's potential? 

Post#68 » by PhilBlackson » Wed Nov 29, 2017 1:40 am

The height of his potential is a bigger, more athletic Artest, if he can re-gain all his athleticism.

Right now he's already beyond an "adequate" 3+D player and an analytics darling. But again I hate when fellow Raptor fans feel the need to start threads on our players, please for the millionth time let another fanbase do it if they want more insight so they don't feel like we're just creating one to circle jerk our players smh.
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Re: what's OG anunoby's potential? 

Post#69 » by MotownMadness » Wed Nov 29, 2017 1:44 am

I need to watch some good highlight vids of him in the NBA. I loved him in college and wanted him before that Knee injury with our pick.

Kid is just a physical beast defensively but he took it to a level offensively I didn't think he had so props to Toronto for getting a steal. Two way wings are where it's at.
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Re: what's OG anunoby's potential? 

Post#70 » by jlokine » Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:33 am

xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:These threads never end up well on the GB. Should just stick to the players teams forum.


what's wrong with asking about a player on a particular team on GB? could it be i would like some input from basketball purests and not fan boys looking for fun threads on a particular team's board? is the GB only good for subjective ranking players that always wind up with giannis, porzingis, KAT, AD, embiid, simmons? or how would prime _____ do in today's nba? are you not tired of those threads? i read those every other day as a new thread, NOT the old thread being bumped up.

sorry for wanting to mix things up.
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Re: what's OG anunoby's potential? 

Post#71 » by Roy The Natural » Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:03 am

Yallbecrazy wrote:Rather than player comparisons I think it would be wise to look at his skills individually.
I think he has the potential to be the best on ball wing defender in the modern era with his quickness, anticipation, strength and length. I don't think he can ever be the total defender of someone like Lebron because while his BBIQ is well above average it's not near the level of some of the top players in the game, so his help defense won't be as good. (His steal and block rates in college are unmatched by anyone- stats that are the best predictors of defensive success in the NBA. Only Roberson was close and that was as a senior in a weak conference. OG played in one of the best)

Offensively he will be able to make open 3s, make smart passes and finish at the rim really well with his strength and coordination. He has a very long way to go to ever be able to be the primary offensive option like a Kawhi, but he does have good passing, very good rim finishing and great athleticism (strength +explosiveness). He could develop into a big weapon offensively by improving his handle enough and his shot enough that he could attack players that have to close out aggressively on him and be elite at getting to the rim and either finishing or finding the open man for an easy basket.

He seems to have the demeanor, work ethic, and intelligence to be a megaelite secondary weapon in my opinion, to the point where he could be more valuable than a lot of the better primary players in the league because of the ability to neutralize other stars and still be quite effective on the offensive end.
Of course that's the ceiling, the floor is more like a shut down defender with decent 3pt shooting (super valuable role player)


Sooooo Gerald Wallace?
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Re: what's OG anunoby's potential? 

Post#72 » by dukes_wild » Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:11 am

It's tough to say what OG's ceiling is.

Right now he's shown very little signs of being a good shot creator offensively, all of his points are coming from open 3s, free driving lanes, transition, etc.

Raps fans gotta chill with him though, I can already see what's going to happen: He's never going to be a great offensive player and people will turn on him for not "living up to expectations"

The good thing about OG is his floor is pretty clear: A good defensive forward who can knock down an open 3 which is still good.

Personally I see his ceiling as the 2012-2014 Kawhi. 12/6 or so with good 3pt shooting, All-NBA 2nd team-ish sort of defensive impact
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Re: what's OG anunoby's potential? 

Post#73 » by Roy The Natural » Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:14 am

dukes_wild wrote:It's tough to say what OG's ceiling is.

Right now he's shown very little signs of being a good shot creator offensively, all of his points are coming from open 3s, free driving lanes, transition, etc.

Raps fans gotta chill with him though, I can already see what's going to happen: He's never going to be a great offensive player and people will turn on him for not "living up to expectations"

The good thing about OG is his floor is pretty clear: A good defensive forward who can knock down an open 3 which is still good.

Personally I see his ceiling as the 2012-2014 Kawhi. 12/6 or so with good 3pt shooting, All-NBA 2nd team-ish sort of defensive impact


I think, as I said above... Gerald Wallace is a decent estimate for a ceiling. A bit better shooter... a bit worse rebounder... but that sort of player impact-wise.
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Re: what's OG anunoby's potential? 

Post#74 » by JojoSlimbiid » Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:43 am

dukes_wild wrote:It's tough to say what OG's ceiling is.

Right now he's shown very little signs of being a good shot creator offensively, all of his points are coming from open 3s, free driving lanes, transition, etc.

Raps fans gotta chill with him though, I can already see what's going to happen: He's never going to be a great offensive player and people will turn on him for not "living up to expectations"

The good thing about OG is his floor is pretty clear: A good defensive forward who can knock down an open 3 which is still good.

Personally I see his ceiling as the 2012-2014 Kawhi. 12/6 or so with good 3pt shooting, All-NBA 2nd team-ish sort of defensive impact


Seems like a relatively reasonable take.
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Post#75 » by Yallbecrazy » Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:57 am

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Yallbecrazy wrote:Rather than player comparisons I think it would be wise to look at his skills individually.
I think he has the potential to be the best on ball wing defender in the modern era with his quickness, anticipation, strength and length. I don't think he can ever be the total defender of someone like Lebron because while his BBIQ is well above average it's not near the level of some of the top players in the game, so his help defense won't be as good. (His steal and block rates in college are unmatched by anyone- stats that are the best predictors of defensive success in the NBA. Only Roberson was close and that was as a senior in a weak conference. OG played in one of the best)

Offensively he will be able to make open 3s, make smart passes and finish at the rim really well with his strength and coordination. He has a very long way to go to ever be able to be the primary offensive option like a Kawhi, but he does have good passing, very good rim finishing and great athleticism (strength +explosiveness). He could develop into a big weapon offensively by improving his handle enough and his shot enough that he could attack players that have to close out aggressively on him and be elite at getting to the rim and either finishing or finding the open man for an easy basket.

He seems to have the demeanor, work ethic, and intelligence to be a megaelite secondary weapon in my opinion, to the point where he could be more valuable than a lot of the better primary players in the league because of the ability to neutralize other stars and still be quite effective on the offensive end.
Of course that's the ceiling, the floor is more like a shut down defender with decent 3pt shooting (super valuable role player)


Sooooo Gerald Wallace?


with better shooting, passing and defense
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Re: what's OG anunoby's potential? 

Post#76 » by Asif16 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:14 am

Frank Dux wrote:I find it laughable how often people are willing to compare prospects to superstars like Kawhi. He won’t ever be near that level.


This thread is about potential/ceiling. Doesnt actually mean he's gonna reach the player we're mentioning. I dont think he's gonan reach kawhi's level either.

But right now there are a lot of similarities between OG and Kawhi's rookie years. There's nothing wrong with pointing that out
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Re: what's OG anunoby's potential? 

Post#77 » by Roy The Natural » Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:23 am

Asif16 wrote:
Frank Dux wrote:I find it laughable how often people are willing to compare prospects to superstars like Kawhi. He won’t ever be near that level.


This thread is about potential/ceiling. Doesnt actually mean he's gonna reach the player we're mentioning. I dont think he's gonan reach kawhi's level either.

But right now there are a lot of similarities between OG and Kawhi's rookie years. There's nothing wrong with pointing that out


I'd say it's probably a bit closer to Batum's rookie year than Kawhi's to be honest. At least statistically.
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Re: what's OG anunoby's potential? 

Post#78 » by xxSnEaKyPxx » Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:29 am

jlokine wrote:
xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:These threads never end up well on the GB. Should just stick to the players teams forum.


what's wrong with asking about a player on a particular team on GB? could it be i would like some input from basketball purests and not fan boys looking for fun threads on a particular team's board? is the GB only good for subjective ranking players that always wind up with giannis, porzingis, KAT, AD, embiid, simmons? or how would prime _____ do in today's nba? are you not tired of those threads? i read those every other day as a new thread, NOT the old thread being bumped up.

sorry for wanting to mix things up.

Nothing wrong with it, but it always leads to the same reactions.

Team Fans: He is going to be a superstar.

Fans of other teams: No he isn't.

Team Fans: You don't know what you are talking about!

Fans of other teams: You are homers!



Nothing is wrong with asking it, but the conversation typically ends up the same every time. Not your fault, just how it is.
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Re: what's OG anunoby's potential? 

Post#79 » by Roy The Natural » Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:37 am

xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:
jlokine wrote:
xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:These threads never end up well on the GB. Should just stick to the players teams forum.


what's wrong with asking about a player on a particular team on GB? could it be i would like some input from basketball purests and not fan boys looking for fun threads on a particular team's board? is the GB only good for subjective ranking players that always wind up with giannis, porzingis, KAT, AD, embiid, simmons? or how would prime _____ do in today's nba? are you not tired of those threads? i read those every other day as a new thread, NOT the old thread being bumped up.

sorry for wanting to mix things up.

Nothing wrong with it, but it always leads to the same reactions.

Team Fans: He is going to be a superstar.

Fans of other teams: No he isn't.

Team Fans: You don't know what you are talking about!

Fans of other teams: You are homers!



Nothing is wrong with asking it, but the conversation typically ends up the same every time. Not your fault, just how it is.


I think the Kawhi Leonard comparisons end when you look at ast% on their shooting charts. Kawhi was already flashing the ability to handle the ball, and a versatile offensive game. Kawhi hit stepbacks... Kawhi showed solid footwork under the rim, often pivoting to get better angles, Kawhi tooke guys off the bounce (even if he wasn't a high-level ballhandler at that point, he had what could easily be seen as the beginnings of a solid in/out and hesitation dribble). OG can sort of dribble... in the way that Aminu can sort of dribble, they both do stuff with the ball, but it looks very mechanical, and not very in control. Kawhi didn't handle the ball like that as a rookie... IMO. I wouldn't have guessed that Kawhi would become the ball-handler he is today, but Iooking back, you can see the foundation and fluidity to progress there.

This is backed up by the fact that Kawhi was assisted on 62% of his shots in his rookie year, while OG is assisted on an Ariza-like 85%. This isn't to say that in a pie-in-the-sky complete revelation overhaul to his ball-handling that he couldn't reach some lofty level of scoring... but it's not a realistic portrayal of his potential IMO.

I believe the very upper end of OG's ballhandling ability is likely somewhere in the Batum range, and I'd wager that's going to be a hard achievement for him. If he really is as good of a passer as people here seem to think he is, than he will probably be able to model his offensive game a bit around what Batum was great at in his uninjured prime.
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Re: what's OG anunoby's potential? 

Post#80 » by primopastalove2 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:45 am

An elite 3-D guy who actually fits that description with some court vision, he'll most likely never be Kawhi he doesn't have the on ball skills like him or the handles which will limit him to just being a great role player.
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