Otto Porter Part 2

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Is there any cap on Porter's upside. He just gets better and better every year. Look at his progression in every meaningful statistic:



At this point, I don't think I would trade him, even for Cousins. As he starts to figure out how to increase his usage rate (and as Brooks starts to let him do so) there's no telling how good he'll get. Why couldn't he score 25 points a game while being an elite defensive glue guy like Kawhi Leonard or Shawn Marion? He can get that fadeaway jumper off whenever he wants to.

He currently ranks 6th in the league in RPM, and among the top 20, only Davis, Giannis, Embiid and Jokic are as young as him.

I've been saying he is the best player on this team for many many months now. He was our best player last year! Glad to see it becoming obvious to others as well.

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It was a bad shooting night, but it wasn't a great showing when he was forced into the first option role last night. Hopefully he can show us more moving forward.

[tontoz]

Porter doesn't get to the rim/foul line enough to be a true first option scorer imo.

He does need to get more touches going forward. That means that Wall really needs to curtail his fetish for mid-range jumpers.

[gtn130]

RPM consistently overrates efficient role players. Otto is a great 3rd option, but you guys are going nuts. I would snap trade Otto for Cousins and never look back.

[tontoz]

RPM consistently overrates efficient role players. Otto is a great 3rd option, but you guys are going nuts. I would snap trade Otto for Cousins and never look back.

How would being a role player help on DRPM?

[gtn130]

RPM consistently overrates efficient role players. Otto is a great 3rd option, but you guys are going nuts. I would snap trade Otto for Cousins and never look back.

How would being a role player help on DRPM?

When did I say anything about DRPM?

[gtn130]

Guys like Jae Crowder, Jared Dudley, Robert Covington, DeMarre Carroll, Trevor Ariza and Otto Porter basically prove my point about RPM. Really don't need to look any further than those guys to see where the blindspots are.

[tontoz]

RPM consistently overrates efficient role players. Otto is a great 3rd option, but you guys are going nuts. I would snap trade Otto for Cousins and never look back.

How would being a role player help on DRPM?

When did I say anything about DRPM?

In your original post. Half of RPM is DRPM.

[gtn130]

How would being a role player help on DRPM?

When did I say anything about DRPM?

In your original post. Half of RPM is DRPM.

Can you get out of here with this gotcha attempt? The other half of RPM is ORPM. Hit the bricks, buddy

[tontoz]

When did I say anything about DRPM?

In your original post. Half of RPM is DRPM.

Can you get out of here with this gotcha attempt? The other half of RPM is ORPM. Hit the bricks, buddy

Then maybe you should say ORPM over rates role players, or does that make too much sense?

Then you could follow it up with some logical reasoning and examples, but I won't hold my breath waiting on that.

It is much easier to state an opinion as a fact than to actually make a coherent argument.

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It was a bad shooting night, but it wasn't a great showing when he was forced into the first option role last night. Hopefully he can show us more moving forward.

ehhh, I enjoyed watching him be aggressive and hunt for his shot. It was a 2nd night of b2b after he carried the team to the win the night before. Alot of those shots just rimmed out and there was one horrendous call on that charge against Bayless. He also could have turned it around like we've seen him do before shooting wise but Brooks opted to play Mccullough down the stretch instead.

I really think Otto has enough in his repertoire in terms of shot creation to be a primary option, post ups, mid range Js in the pick and roll. What he really needs to add is the confidence to pull up from 3 off the dribble with his length, he can always get that shot.

put it this way: I would rather see more Otto post ups and mid range Js than Wall jumpshots or wild attempts at the basket.

[gtn130]

In your original post. Half of RPM is DRPM.

Can you get out of here with this gotcha attempt? The other half of RPM is ORPM. Hit the bricks, buddy

Then maybe you should say ORPM over rates role players, or does that make too much sense?

Then you could follow it up with some logical reasoning and examples, but I won't hold my breath waiting on that.

It is much easier to state an opinion as a fact than to actually make a coherent argument.

LOL get out of here, man. Your line of questioning is totally asinine. Instead of careening into an argument with yourself, maybe just read my posts next time?

RPM consistently overrates efficient role players. Otto is a great 3rd option, but you guys are going nuts. I would snap trade Otto for Cousins and never look back.

You think I'm somehow talking about DRPM here?

Oh, look, the logical examples you asked for, which I already provided!

Guys like Jae Crowder, Jared Dudley, Robert Covington, DeMarre Carroll, Trevor Ariza and Otto Porter basically prove my point about RPM. Really don't need to look any further than those guys to see where the blindspots are.

Have fun blowing down straw men though or whatever it is you're doing here.

[gtn130]

Tontoz is such a clown, it's actually amazing. He's the guy who argued that Phil Jackson was never culpable for Knicks' personnel decisions because he held the title of President instead of GM.

[tontoz]

LOL get out of here, man. Your line of questioning is totally asinine. Instead of careening into an argument with yourself, maybe just read my posts next time?

RPM consistently overrates efficient role players. Otto is a great 3rd option, but you guys are going nuts. I would snap trade Otto for Cousins and never look back.

You think I'm somehow talking about DRPM here?

Oh, look, the logical examples you asked for, which I already provided!

Guys like Jae Crowder, Jared Dudley, Robert Covington, DeMarre Carroll, Trevor Ariza and Otto Porter basically prove my point about RPM. Really don't need to look any further than those guys to see where the blindspots are.

Have fun blowing down straw men though or whatever it is you're doing here.

Dudley and Covington both had negative ORPMs last season. Ariza was .86.

Crowder is currently -.94. Carroll is currently at .54. last year he was at 0.

Great examples I am convinced.

[gtn130]

Dudley and Covington both had negative ORPMs last season. Ariza was .86.

Crowder is currently -.94. Carroll is currently at .54. last year he was at 0.

Great examples I am convinced.

Imagine a world where the NBA existed beyond last season.

[tontoz]

Dudley and Covington both had negative ORPMs last season. Ariza was .86.

Crowder is currently -.94. Carroll is currently at .54. last year he was at 0.

Great examples I am convinced.

Imagine a world where the NBA existed beyond last season.

Feel free to pick previous seasons. You didn't mention seasons you just mentioned names.

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