Did Phil fall asleep On Donovan Mitchell workout?

[boomann21]

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"A top-15 draft pick told me the other day, because we were involved in this conversation about Phil Jackson and the Knicks, and he said, 'Phil Jackson was falling in and out of sleep during my workout,'" Williams said

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https://www.chatsports.com/nba/a/source/draft-prospect-says-phil-jackson-dozed-during-his-workout-with-knicks-13639314

I've read this story somewhere and I was looking for the confirmation on which draft pick Phil fell asleep on. The more I watch this Mitchell kid out of Utah I'm thinking Phil fell asleep on him and I'm thinking outside of Ben Simmons this guy is the second best rookie as of right now. Nothing against the French Kid and Dennis Smith is athletic and all, but Mitchell looks like he's headed for stardom. If this is not thread worthy let me know my brethren, but I would like to discuss. Who would you guys rather have as of right now? Donovan Mitchell or our French Wonder Kid?

[Clyde_Style]

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"A top-15 draft pick told me the other day, because we were involved in this conversation about Phil Jackson and the Knicks, and he said, 'Phil Jackson was falling in and out of sleep during my workout,'" Williams said

.

https://www.chatsports.com/nba/a/source/draft-prospect-says-phil-jackson-dozed-during-his-workout-with-knicks-13639314

I've read this story somewhere and I was looking for the confirmation on which draft pick Phil fell asleep on. The more I watch this Mitchell kid out of Utah I'm thinking Phil fell asleep on him and I'm thinking outside of Ben Simmons this guy is the second best rookie as of right now. Nothing against the French Kid and Dennis Smith is athletic and all, but Mitchell looks like he's headed for stardom. If this is not thread worthy let me know my brethren, but I would like to discuss. Who would you guys rather have as of right now? Donovan Mitchell or our French Wonder Kid?

At the draft I thought Mitchell might be the best available player at 8th.

I wanted Fox but did not expect him to be available and he wasn't.

Monk and Smith didn't interest me, so that meant it was between Frank and Donovan AFAIK.

Still glad we picked Frank, but Mitchell is the better player so far. Give it two years though, I think we'll be vindicated for picking Frank.

[Capn'O]

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Mitchell looks great on both ends. I'm happy with Frank but at press time he's obviously performing better.

Now, the point I'll add is he has a year on Frank and a number of the other draftees. 19 to 20 is a huge difference in development. 2nd year is usually when you see guys start to become impact players if they are going to. The Jazz got a sure one but I wouldn't yet rule our guy out.

[Fortune55]

Phil always said he cared about the future of the franchise even after he leaves. 10/10 id take Frank over Mitchell. Longer, taller, and younger. I liked Mitchell a lot and there were rumors we woulda traded down to get him. Phil woulda got chewed out if we took Mitchell on draft night. I still like our pick.

[thebuzzardman]

I'm glad Dennis Smith envy has moved on to Donovan Mitchell regret

[Oscirus]

if we pick Mitchell what free agent were we signing at PG?

[3toheadmelo]

smiffy is better

[Phish Tank]

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Mitchell looks great on both ends. I'm happy with Frank but at press time he's obviously performing better.

Now, the point I'll add is he has a year on Frank and a number of the other draftees. 19 to 20 is a huge difference in development. 2nd year is usually when you see guys start to become impact players if they are going to. The Jazz got a sure one but I wouldn't yet rule our guy out.

Agreed for the most part. Still way too early to assess and Mitchell is a completely different player than Frank.

Frank's technically 2 years younger than Mitchell. Mitchell just turned 21 while Frank just turned 19.

[thebuzzardman]

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[HEZI]

There were only like 5 of us who really recognized Mitchell for his talents and wanted him to be the pick. Even the mock draft sites had him way too low. Mitchell was way more talented than Frank, not sure how some people even tried debating that, but Frank was never taken for who he was rather for what he could be (potential). Since that's the case, people need to be patient with the kid and give him time. But yeah, Mitchell was my dude and still is. It is what it is though. I still like the Frank pick.

[nykballa2k4]

Not that anyone wants to hear this, but Mitchell was on Phil's short list. There were threads stating the fear that we were going to take him. IIRC there were reports about how well our workout with him went. In that thread I posted that I thought that it was a front for someone else with the same agency.

[Capn'O]

Title redeemed by content in my view. I won't touch it unless the discussion goes south.



Mitchell looks great on both ends. I'm happy with Frank but at press time he's obviously performing better.

Now, the point I'll add is he has a year on Frank and a number of the other draftees. 19 to 20 is a huge difference in development. 2nd year is usually when you see guys start to become impact players if they are going to. The Jazz got a sure one but I wouldn't yet rule our guy out.

Agreed for the most part. Still way too early to assess and Mitchell is a completely different player than Frank.

Frank's technically 2 years younger than Mitchell. Mitchell just turned 21 while Frank just turned 19.

That's obviously an even bigger difference then. We're seeing much more of a finished product in Mitchell then. Not that he can't also improve a bunch but Frank is basically a ball of clay.

[IllmaticHandler]

In before Phil Fell asleep on Kyle Kuzma.

[IllmaticHandler]

Not that anyone wants to hear this, but Mitchell was on Phil's short list. There were threads stating the fear that we were going to take him. IIRC there were reports about how well our workout with him went. In that thread I posted that I thought that it was a front for someone else with the same agency.

he was def on the short list. Thats why I had hope fo him outside of Frank if did not get him. There were a few reports with him and the Knicks.

Frank and Mitchell was the ones I wanted at that spot.

[HEZI]

In before Phil Fell asleep on Kyle Kuzma.

That would be the Blazers. They had 3 THREE 1st round picks and even had a need for him since they desperately needed (and still do) a stretch 4, yet they traded picks to move up to grab Zach Collins. Nothing against Collins, I actually thought he was a great prospect, but the Blazers had no need for him. He was gonna be a bench player for them regardless because of Nurkic. Kuzma was never a realistic option for the Knicks because at the time of the draft we had so many forwards (Melo, KP, Lance, Kuzminskas) plus only one draft pick and a desperate need for a guard. The Blazers on the other hand, what were they thinking?

[IllmaticHandler]

In before Phil Fell asleep on Kyle Kuzma.

That would be the Blazers. They had 3 THREE 1st round picks and even had a need for him since they desperately needed (and still do) a stretch 4, yet they traded picks to move up to grab Zach Collins. Nothing against Collins, I actually thought he was a great prospect, but the Blazers had no need for him. He was gonna be a bench player for them regardless because of Nurkic. Kuzma was never a realistic option for the Knicks because at the time of the draft we had so many forwards (Melo, KP, Lance, Kuzminskas) plus only one draft pick and a desperate need for a guard. The Blazers on the other hand, what were they thinking?

fam you know I was being sarcastic right? . Of course, Kuzma was never on the radar for us. But since we have revisionist history today, may as well add another.

[GONYK]

I love Mitchell's game, but I think Frank had the most potential out of everyone available at the pick. The size and skill he could provide at the PG position is hard to pass up. Frank is also more of a PG than Mitch is.

I do think that if Frank was off the board, we would have given Mitchell a very serious look.

[IllmaticHandler]

Title redeemed by content in my view. I won't touch it unless the discussion goes south.



Mitchell looks great on both ends. I'm happy with Frank but at press time he's obviously performing better.

Now, the point I'll add is he has a year on Frank and a number of the other draftees. 19 to 20 is a huge difference in development. 2nd year is usually when you see guys start to become impact players if they are going to. The Jazz got a sure one but I wouldn't yet rule our guy out.

He actually has TWO years on Frank.

[HEZI]

How's our boy Jaramaz doing overseas? Anybody been following him? I wonder if he will ever make it to the NBA, he did have some nice energy in SL

[Phish Tank]

Title redeemed by content in my view. I won't touch it unless the discussion goes south.



Mitchell looks great on both ends. I'm happy with Frank but at press time he's obviously performing better.

Now, the point I'll add is he has a year on Frank and a number of the other draftees. 19 to 20 is a huge difference in development. 2nd year is usually when you see guys start to become impact players if they are going to. The Jazz got a sure one but I wouldn't yet rule our guy out.

Agreed for the most part. Still way too early to assess and Mitchell is a completely different player than Frank.

Frank's technically 2 years younger than Mitchell. Mitchell just turned 21 while Frank just turned 19.

That's obviously an even bigger difference then. We're seeing much more of a finished product in Mitchell then. Not that he can't also improve a bunch but Frank is basically a ball of clay.

Yep.

If we had one more asset, I thought we could have flipped Willy and someone else for the 13th pick to get Mitchell. I don't know if I'd have picked him 8th, but I thought we could get another pick in the draft.

With that said, Mitchell's also way more developed physically right now after being through the Louisville and AAU regiments. Our system helps accelerate the physical development than overseas. Even Tony Parker and others needed at least a year or two to develop physically.