Game 25 : Phoenix Suns at Philadelphia 76ers, Monday, Dec. 4, 7:00PM

[jcsunsfan]

I don’t know if his offense is sloppy (JJ) that and 1 spin move on the fast break wasn’t sloppy. His shot is ugly, his dribble in traffic is sloppy, but he shows a lot of agility on offense and determination getting to the hoop. Lol....Not you, but people in general are looking at the things he can’t do yet and is no surprise versus what he can do, like pick Simmmons pocket one on one.

Can’t wait to revisit the JJ hot takes in two years. People aren’t even giving him a chance to be Booker’s running mate. Again not you.

I expect him to be much improved. I'm a JJ fan obviously. But I've watched all the games and think currently his offense is sloppy at times. I think he works hard enough to improve that though.

JJ hurries. He has to stop that. In the words of the great John Wooden. "Be quick, don't hurry." He is just a little out of control. If he slows down just a little on offense, it will click.

[PLO]

Doncic would play the point for the Suns - that would be an unreal offence and basically a must-watch for the casual fan, not so sure about the defence. Still, there are a lot of quality bigs in this draft, not just at the top of it. Something could be got in the second round for sure.

Who would guard PGs? Start Jackson and have him guard PGs and move Warren to 6th-man role?

That's the quandry you'll have with Doncic - like I said the offence would be unreal though. Jackson has to remake his shot mechanics to be startable IMO - but actually now you mention it him guarding guards is a good use of his talents. If he can do that and become a 3rd or 4th option on offense you have a quality NBA starter.

[bwgood77]

That's the quandry you'll have with Doncic - like I said the offence would be unreal though. Jackson has to remake his shot mechanics to be startable IMO - but actually now you mention it him guarding guards is a good use of his talents. If he can do that and become a 3rd or 4th option on offense you have a quality NBA starter.

Yeah, that's the thought process with Doncic, that JJ would guard the PG, but that does leave TJ out. He would be great off the bench but ultimately we would need more defensive options. Hopefully these guys improve defensively.

[lilfishi22]

Now im not even close to giving up on them like some of the board already has, but its kinda frightening in a way. I expected Chriss to be the more NBA ready player from day one, but expected Bender to eventually pass Chriss and have the higher ceiling (Due to what was touted as him having an all around game). But it seems like they are both on equal footing and nowhere near where i was expecting them to be coming into their 2nd season. Yes i know bigs take longer to develop, im just worried that we dont have the right guys developing them as their games (How they play) are rather weak and lackluster.

I can see both sides of the argument. With bigs being slower to develop, we may not know what we have until the end of Year 2 or Year 3 and by that time, if they haven't blossomed into something legit, their value would be a lot lower than right now. So I don't consider trading them as giving up but rather taking a calculated risk based on their projected development and cashing in now if a good deal comes.

That's always going to be the problem with building through the draft. You don't know what you have until 2-3 seasons down the road. I think you have your untouchables (Booker) and everyone else is potentially available and I just don't understand the hate for putting a guy like Chriss or even Bender in trades if it nets us something legit. This is particularly true for us when we have two guys (even though they are young) who are ready to take the next step. Waiting for Bender/Chriss/Jackson to catch up (if they ever do) could be dangerous.

[Revived]

Now im not even close to giving up on them like some of the board already has, but its kinda frightening in a way. I expected Chriss to be the more NBA ready player from day one, but expected Bender to eventually pass Chriss and have the higher ceiling (Due to what was touted as him having an all around game). But it seems like they are both on equal footing and nowhere near where i was expecting them to be coming into their 2nd season. Yes i know bigs take longer to develop, im just worried that we dont have the right guys developing them as their games (How they play) are rather weak and lackluster.

I can see both sides of the argument. With bigs being slower to develop, we may not know what we have until the end of Year 2 or Year 3 and by that time, if they haven't blossomed into something legit, their value would be a lot lower than right now. So I don't consider trading them as giving up but rather taking a calculated risk based on their projected development and cashing in now if a good deal comes.

That's always going to be the problem with building through the draft. You don't know what you have until 2-3 seasons down the road. I think you have your untouchables (Booker) and everyone else is potentially available and I just don't understand the hate for putting a guy like Chriss or even Bender in trades if it nets us something legit. This is particularly true for us when we have two guys (even though they are young) who are ready to take the next step. Waiting for Bender/Chriss/Jackson to catch up (if they ever do) could be dangerous.

This is true. If these guys don’t continue to develop then their trade value also decreases.

At the same time, we can trade them and they go off on some other team (think D’Angelo Russel).

[Son of Ra]

Really liking the development I'm seeing from JJ. My eye test says he's slowly but steadily improving.
I was surprised when Triano subbed him for Chriss later in the 4th or that he wasn't playing more in 2nd in general. I thought he was playing stifling defense on Simmons and had him shut down.

[Kerrsed]

Now im not even close to giving up on them like some of the board already has, but its kinda frightening in a way. I expected Chriss to be the more NBA ready player from day one, but expected Bender to eventually pass Chriss and have the higher ceiling (Due to what was touted as him having an all around game). But it seems like they are both on equal footing and nowhere near where i was expecting them to be coming into their 2nd season. Yes i know bigs take longer to develop, im just worried that we dont have the right guys developing them as their games (How they play) are rather weak and lackluster.

I can see both sides of the argument. With bigs being slower to develop, we may not know what we have until the end of Year 2 or Year 3 and by that time, if they haven't blossomed into something legit, their value would be a lot lower than right now. So I don't consider trading them as giving up but rather taking a calculated risk based on their projected development and cashing in now if a good deal comes.

That's always going to be the problem with building through the draft. You don't know what you have until 2-3 seasons down the road. I think you have your untouchables (Booker) and everyone else is potentially available and I just don't understand the hate for putting a guy like Chriss or even Bender in trades if it nets us something legit. This is particularly true for us when we have two guys (even though they are young) who are ready to take the next step. Waiting for Bender/Chriss/Jackson to catch up (if they ever do) could be dangerous.

This is true. If these guys don’t continue to develop then their trade value also decreases.

At the same time, we can trade them and they go off on some other team (think D’Angelo Russel).

But Russell was going off on the Lakers, people just didnt bother paying attention because BLEH its the Lakers. As Bwgood and I noted about a kajillion times last season, Russells stats were right there with Bookers.

And from what i have seen of Trae Young, he reminds me a lot of Russell.

[tgtm_24]

Have we ever had a player who has the regular range of Booker? It's unreal!

[bigfoot]

Have we ever had a player who has the regular range of Booker? It's unreal!

Regular range???

[Hesh]

Man that sixers gamethread a lot of hate and personal attacks on Booker. They're acting like Booker should already have an elite all-around game while reaching his full potential at just over 2 full seasons of his NBA career

[King4Day]

This was a game I def wanted to win. Outplaying the 2 players considered the future of the league feels good.
Embiid said they took the Suns lightly. I think it was Beal who said the same thing when we played them too. This team isn't good but teams who think they have a free pass will struggle to beat us if they don't take us seriously going forward.

[DrSublime]

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[JMac1]

I don’t know if his offense is sloppy (JJ) that and 1 spin move on the fast break wasn’t sloppy. His shot is ugly, his dribble in traffic is sloppy, but he shows a lot of agility on offense and determination getting to the hoop. Lol....Not you, but people in general are looking at the things he can’t do yet and is no surprise versus what he can do, like pick Simmmons pocket one on one.

Can’t wait to revisit the JJ hot takes in two years. People aren’t even giving him a chance to be Booker’s running mate. Again not you.

I expect him to be much improved. I'm a JJ fan obviously. But I've watched all the games and think currently his offense is sloppy at times. I think he works hard enough to improve that though.

JJ hurries. He has to stop that. In the words of the great John Wooden. "Be quick, don't hurry." He is just a little out of control. If he slows down just a little on offense, it will click.

Yep. I see a lot of offensive abilities in that guy and defense....just grow.

[kennydorglas]

People so salty about Booker. That's why I love when he smells blood in the water.
Just dont stop attacking until u quit.

PS: 76ers board suddenly became a GS board based on what? wow

[King4Day]

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I love the look on Daniels' face on the bench. Bad shot but when you are that hot, anything can go in.

[sunsfever68]

The Devin Booker hate is hilarious his haters talk about low PER, volume scorer on a bad team, someone has to score on a bad team. AS IF SCORING 70 AND MULTIPLE 30 PT GAMES AND 40 PT GAMES IS EASY REGARDLESS EVER. People are hilarious.

Devin Booker is the next James Harden. The comp is there. Harden wasn't as quick as he is now bc he got in better shape. That's Booker's next step. Add a little more muscle, shred a little more baby fat, become an absolute machine, watch where he'll be by 24 or 25.

So glad we have (hopefully) our franchise guy for life. He's a superstar, he's our guy, let's hope he resigns max deal for us.

He is the next James Harden, their games are very similar. Or if you want to say he's the first Devin Booker, sure, that's fine, he's a superstar SG I'm good with that lol

[sunsfever68]

I don't know how we do this, but I'm all in like 100% all in trading anyone not named Devin Booker to acquire Bagley and Ayton in the draft this upcoming year

Or some combo of 2 of the following: Bagley, Ayton, Doncic

I want 2 stars to pair with Booker. I really want Ayton a franchise altering big man presence like that is amazing and Bagley is equally as phenomenal.

How can we somehow get both?

[lonea]

Trade value never decreases, GM's trade for salary. Not necessary for the skillset of said player.

This is true. If these guys don’t continue to develop then their trade value also decreases.

At the same time, we can trade them and they go off on some other team (think D’Angelo Russel).

[Saberestar]

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[kennydorglas]

Moose wanted no part of that photo lol