NBA Players Increasingly Switching To Plant-Based Diet

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Post#81 » by 12footrim » Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:52 pm

pootbrah wrote:
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100g of brocolli has more protein than 100g of beef and please never supplement your diet with milk. you aint a baby cow brah you dont need them hormones.


That sounded way off.

http://www.beefmagazine.com/blog/are-vegetable-proteins-equal-protein-beef

I'd encourage you to read this. It's not as good as beef.

As far as milk, there is a reason humans genes mutated to allow us to drink milk into adult hood when it became available through domestication. Those that had this trait thrived while those that didn't (lactose intolorate) mostly died off, at least in the areas that had access to cows. It's good for the success of the human race which is why something like 90-94% of northern Europe cares this trait now because their ancestors were the healthy ones living and reproducing the most.


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please see above link kbye

not reading your post because 1 its irrelevant and 2 im overseas kpieceoutbye. will if you are too triggered though and ill break it down for every flaw it has and lol beef magazine oh yeh they arent selling you propoganda to fill an agenda kbye

We only need to live to like 10-14 to reproduce but who was health?


Do you really need other links? Pretty much all that I read said the same thing. They said you specifically didn't get the same amino acids you need from plants as well. You can get enough protein from vegs if you are willing to chew all day long like a cow I'm sure. 24 Cups of broccoli equals the protein of one steak. Meat is how humans developed big brains and became "woke". That's a fact.

As far as milk, again it can't be that bad when evolution weeded the hell out of those that couldn't process it as adults in the areas where it was available. In those areas where it was available as well humans thrived more than others well enough they had less need to farm and could develop civilization and technology. Milk was one of the driving forces that allowed development of societies where people don't have tor hunt/gather which is the foundation laid for today where people can get picky and pretentious about their diets.
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Re: NBA Players Increasingly Switching To Plant-Based Diet 

Post#82 » by pootbrah » Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:11 am

12footrim wrote:
pootbrah wrote:
12footrim wrote:
That sounded way off.

http://www.beefmagazine.com/blog/are-vegetable-proteins-equal-protein-beef

I'd encourage you to read this. It's not as good as beef.

As far as milk, there is a reason humans genes mutated to allow us to drink milk into adult hood when it became available through domestication. Those that had this trait thrived while those that didn't (lactose intolorate) mostly died off, at least in the areas that had access to cows. It's good for the success of the human race which is why something like 90-94% of northern Europe cares this trait now because their ancestors were the healthy ones living and reproducing the most.


lol

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please see above link kbye

not reading your post because 1 its irrelevant and 2 im overseas kpieceoutbye. will if you are too triggered though and ill break it down for every flaw it has and lol beef magazine oh yeh they arent selling you propoganda to fill an agenda kbye

We only need to live to like 10-14 to reproduce but who was health?


Do you really need other links? Pretty much all that I read said the same thing. They said you specifically didn't get the same amino acids you need from plants as well. You can get enough protein from vegs if you are willing to chew all day long like a cow I'm sure. 24 Cups of broccoli equals the protein of one steak. Meat is how humans developed big brains and became "woke". That's a fact.

As far as milk, again it can't be that bad when evolution weeded the hell out of those that couldn't process it as adults in the areas where it was available. In those areas where it was available as well humans thrived more than others well enough they had less need to farm and could develop civilization and technology. Milk was one of the driving forces that allowed development of societies where people don't have tor hunt/gather which is the foundation laid for today where people can get picky and pretentious about their diets.


what? please explain how meat gave us a big brain? Have you heard of a smoothie btw or legumes, nuts, lentils and the 1000s of other fruits and veg?

also firstly we dont need meat, this is a fact, not to mention it is better for your health, this is a fact, not to mention it is extremely debatable in the fact we are omnivores in the first place. Yes we can eat meat but is it optimal for us? Eating out of need instead of optimal health, there is a big difference. This is not life or death for you (in fact it will probably enhance and prolong your life); this instead is your taste buds and stubborn nature vs the life of a conscious being, this is also the most hard hitting and obvious fact.

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Topic of dairy:

Michaelsson et al. [14] examined milk intake in two large Swedish cohorts.
Primary outcomes included mortality, incident fracture, hip
fracture over follow-up (women, 20.1 years; men, 11.2 years).
In women, ≥3 glasses of milk/day was associated with 93%
increased risk of mortality compared with <1glass (200 ml).
For every glass of milk, fracture and hip fracture risk was 2–
9% higher in women. Overall, ≥3 glasses of milk/day was associated with higher mortality in
adults and with higher fracture incidence in women
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Re: NBA Players Increasingly Switching To Plant-Based Diet 

Post#83 » by pootbrah » Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:32 am

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also to support frugivore claim

we need by far the least amount of protein from breast milk to develop a baby (who grows faster a baby or you and your siqq gym routine?) compared to other mammals. We can also see the obvious omnivores and carnivores need higher amount of protein yet we still need less protein than the herbivores. You do the math. Also, protein deficiency is not a thing, anyone that gets enough calories gets enough protein. Period. If you lift or are extremely active maybe you need 1.3-1.7g of protein per kg of bw for hypertrophy reasons but if not you need like 0.8g of protein per kg. This is for optimal health and for the average person this is less than 40g of protein a day. Basically you don't need to worry about protein and you are a fool if you think that is a reason we need meat.
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Re: NBA Players Increasingly Switching To Plant-Based Diet 

Post#84 » by sewerfrosh » Sun Dec 3, 2017 5:01 pm

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pootbrah wrote:stay woke fam

but forreal go vegan everyone. its the best way in every single way. there literally isnt a single valid argument against it.


What the vegans dont realize, is that most plant based food is grown in green houses, roots never touch soil but rather grow in troughs of fertilizers. they are eating nitrates, nothing but nitrate, phosphorous and pottassium. NPK major components of fertilizer.


You mean like most apples, cabbage, corn, squash, oranges, rice, lettuce, spinach, wheat and grapes are grown in green houses....

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Well I guess you are woke so you must be right... especially if you meant farmland instead of greenhouses...but you know farms and stuff...lol


No I mean, peppers, tomatoes, cucumbers, spinach, lettuce and other VEGETABLES not starches that make up the vegan diets. Most of the stuff you listed though has been Genetically modified to grow where it grows and at the rate that they grow.
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Re: NBA Players Increasingly Switching To Plant-Based Diet 

Post#85 » by pootbrah » Sun Dec 3, 2017 9:49 pm

sewerfrosh wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:
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What the vegans dont realize, is that most plant based food is grown in green houses, roots never touch soil but rather grow in troughs of fertilizers. they are eating nitrates, nothing but nitrate, phosphorous and pottassium. NPK major components of fertilizer.


You mean like most apples, cabbage, corn, squash, oranges, rice, lettuce, spinach, wheat and grapes are grown in green houses....

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Well I guess you are woke so you must be right... especially if you meant farmland instead of greenhouses...but you know farms and stuff...lol


No I mean, peppers, tomatoes, cucumbers, spinach, lettuce and other VEGETABLES not starches that make up the vegan diets. Most of the stuff you listed though has been Genetically modified to grow where it grows and at the rate that they grow.


what are you talking about? do you eat meat (and eggs or dairy)? your food isnt grown in natural conditions. gtfo.
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Post#86 » by ChokeFasncists » Sun Dec 3, 2017 10:21 pm

pootbrah wrote:Image
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also to support frugivore claim

we need by far the least amount of protein from breast milk to develop a baby (who grows faster a baby or you and your siqq gym routine?) compared to other mammals. We can also see the obvious omnivores and carnivores need higher amount of protein yet we still need less protein than the herbivores. You do the math. Also, protein deficiency is not a thing, anyone that gets enough calories gets enough protein. Period. If you lift or are extremely active maybe you need 1.3-1.7g of protein per kg of bw for hypertrophy reasons but if not you need like 0.8g of protein per kg. This is for optimal health and for the average person this is less than 40g of protein a day. Basically you don't need to worry about protein and you are a fool if you think that is a reason we need meat.

Ummm.....low carb, low fat, low protein......just fiber?
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Re: NBA Players Increasingly Switching To Plant-Based Diet 

Post#87 » by pootbrah » Tue Dec 5, 2017 8:46 am

ChokeFasncists wrote:
pootbrah wrote:Image
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also to support frugivore claim

we need by far the least amount of protein from breast milk to develop a baby (who grows faster a baby or you and your siqq gym routine?) compared to other mammals. We can also see the obvious omnivores and carnivores need higher amount of protein yet we still need less protein than the herbivores. You do the math. Also, protein deficiency is not a thing, anyone that gets enough calories gets enough protein. Period. If you lift or are extremely active maybe you need 1.3-1.7g of protein per kg of bw for hypertrophy reasons but if not you need like 0.8g of protein per kg. This is for optimal health and for the average person this is less than 40g of protein a day. Basically you don't need to worry about protein and you are a fool if you think that is a reason we need meat.

Ummm.....low carb, low fat, low protein......just fiber?


what? when did i say that?

low protein, high carb, high fat ideally. I just said the scientific levels of protein shown to give maximum results for hypertrophy reasons because people seem to worry about this (even if they rarely to ever lift and arent an athlete)
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Post#88 » by ChokeFasncists » Wed Dec 6, 2017 7:14 am

pootbrah wrote:
ChokeFasncists wrote:
pootbrah wrote:Image
6
also to support frugivore claim

we need by far the least amount of protein from breast milk to develop a baby (who grows faster a baby or you and your siqq gym routine?) compared to other mammals. We can also see the obvious omnivores and carnivores need higher amount of protein yet we still need less protein than the herbivores. You do the math. Also, protein deficiency is not a thing, anyone that gets enough calories gets enough protein. Period. If you lift or are extremely active maybe you need 1.3-1.7g of protein per kg of bw for hypertrophy reasons but if not you need like 0.8g of protein per kg. This is for optimal health and for the average person this is less than 40g of protein a day. Basically you don't need to worry about protein and you are a fool if you think that is a reason we need meat.

Ummm.....low carb, low fat, low protein......just fiber?


what? when did i say that?

low protein, high carb, high fat ideally. I just said the scientific levels of protein shown to give maximum results for hypertrophy reasons because people seem to worry about this (even if they rarely to ever lift and arent an athlete)

I was just referring to the general culture. It's been low fat for many years, and then low carb was all the rage, now low protein. That means either one or two of them are wrong, each individual is different, they're all bad, so just a lot of fiber, or it doesn't really freaking matter.
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Re: NBA Players Increasingly Switching To Plant-Based Diet 

Post#89 » by pootbrah » Wed Dec 6, 2017 6:46 pm

ChokeFasncists wrote:
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ChokeFasncists wrote:Ummm.....low carb, low fat, low protein......just fiber?


what? when did i say that?

low protein, high carb, high fat ideally. I just said the scientific levels of protein shown to give maximum results for hypertrophy reasons because people seem to worry about this (even if they rarely to ever lift and arent an athlete)

I was just referring to the general culture. It's been low fat for many years, and then low carb was all the rage, now low protein. That means either one or two of them are wrong, each individual is different, they're all bad, so just a lot of fiber, or it doesn't really freaking matter.


You want all the macronutrients :) Just protein has been severely overrated for decades now and often appears to be the only macronutrient that matters. You really don't need to worry about any of the macronutrients tbh if you are having a balanced diets of wholegrains, vegetables, fruits, nuts and legumes. People always worrying about protein is my main point and that has been proven not to be the case both for health and athletic endeavors. PS - you need carbs for your brain to function and fats are essential for hormone regulation - dont cut out any macro ;)
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Post#90 » by ChokeFasncists » Thu Dec 7, 2017 5:55 am

pootbrah wrote:
ChokeFasncists wrote:
pootbrah wrote:
what? when did i say that?

low protein, high carb, high fat ideally. I just said the scientific levels of protein shown to give maximum results for hypertrophy reasons because people seem to worry about this (even if they rarely to ever lift and arent an athlete)

I was just referring to the general culture. It's been low fat for many years, and then low carb was all the rage, now low protein. That means either one or two of them are wrong, each individual is different, they're all bad, so just a lot of fiber, or it doesn't really freaking matter.


You want all the macronutrients :) Just protein has been severely overrated for decades now and often appears to be the only macronutrient that matters. You really don't need to worry about any of the macronutrients tbh if you are having a balanced diets of wholegrains, vegetables, fruits, nuts and legumes. People always worrying about protein is my main point and that has been proven not to be the case both for health and athletic endeavors. PS - you need carbs for your brain to function and fats are essential for hormone regulation - dont cut out any macro ;)

Cool, I suppose it's refined carbs and bad fat that needs to be avoided.
MorbidHEAT wrote:My dislike for Lin started during Linsanity. It was absurd. It's probably irrational dislike at this point, but man he gets on my nerves. He's been tearing us up though.
Thanks for the honesty.

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