NBA Draft and NCAA Basketball

[Bogyo]

I'm all over Ayton, Bamba, Jackson for us.

Per 30: points / rebounds / blocks @ O-Rating / D-Rating
Ayton: 18 / 10 / 1 @ 131 / 96
Bamba: 11 / 10 / 4 @ 108 / 77
Jackson: 13 / 9 / 3 @ 108 / 76

In bold are numbers that are MVP level offensive rating or DPOY level defensive rating.

If we pick top 6 we should get one of them.

I think we have a great chance for Bamba or Jackson. Bamba will slip becouse he has no offense whatsoever besides dunks and putbacks, PLUS he is rail thin, so he will be projected as a poor mans Gobert by many. Jackson will slip becouse 5 of the top 6-7 are bigs, and he is not one of them. If McD likes them - one will be on the Suns next year.

[kennydorglas]

Jaren Jackson will be really good too.
Youngest player in this class, great motor and nice looking shot so far.

I wouldnt be mad if we land him at all. Still aiming for Doncic or Ayton tho.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Anyone see this dunk. Y Bamba?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQUsqPsX0AAPubt?format=jpg


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That picture is worth a thousand words on why he's so intriguing. His length and athleticism combo is ridiculous.

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[jcsunsfan]

Anyone see this dunk. Y Bamba?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQUsqPsX0AAPubt?format=jpg


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That picture is worth a thousand words on why he's so intriguing. His length and athleticism combo is ridiculous.

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Yep. All the defender can do is slap him in the face as he slams it home.

[Kerrsed]

Does it bother anyone else that Bamba really reminds them of Biyombo?

[Mulhollanddrive]

At least 70% of the time at every pick (apart from no.1) the player never becomes an All-Star.

So my view is that you need to pick an outlier player with upside and if he busts you can just get a FA to do the same thing as a safer pick.

Bamba has 5 inches on Biyombo with combined height and wingspan but he is just as raw.

[Blonde]

Porter is the guy I want on this team next year. He was the only guy who might have leaped Doncic this year without the back injury. He's 6'10" and one of the best shooters in this class. Prototypical stretch 4 with primary scorer equity. His ability to space the floor will pair well with Jackson or Warren, and he can be a volume scorer to compliment and take pressure off Booker. I'm confident that our medical staff will know how his surgery will impact him, but I'm not too worried about it.

Use the miami pick to take a center like Wendell Carter or Mitchell Robinson, or a PG like Trae Young
Alternatively offer Chriss and the miami pick to move up or trade for a starter. Either way I think Chriss becomes expendable (if he isn't already).

Ulis/Knight/Free Agent
Booker/Reed
Jackson/Warren
Porter/Bender/Dudley
Chandler/Wendell Carter/Williams

I think Porter solves a lot of problems for us, and makes a ton of sense for future roster construction.

[kennydorglas]

JJJ has a pretty good BLK/PF ratio, much like Bamba. This young guy is winning me over.

Updated PER vs .500+ teams (going with Stepien's 2018 board)

Mohamed Bamba 18.5 (3 games)
DeAndre Ayton 27.8 (4 games)
Jaren Jackson 23.6 (5 games)
Miles Bridges 23.3 (23 games)
Collin Sexton 20 (6 games)
Wendell Carter 22.1 (5 games)
Marvin Bagley 28.2 (5 games)
Kevin Knox 10.6 (1 game)
Mikal Bridges 20.1 (53 games)
Bruce Brown 21.3 (25 games)
Robert Williams 24.2 (23 games)
De'Anthony Melton 17.3 (20 games)
Troy Brown 13.5 (1 game)
Andrew Jones 16.8 (29 games)
Trevon Duval 11.5 (5 games)
Hamidou Diallo 10.8 (1 game)
Lonnie Walker 7.29 (1 game)
Shake Milton 15.2 (42 games)
Jacob Evans 17.7 (35 games)
PJ Washington 7.22 (1 game)

[Damkac]

I'm starting to think that it would be better for Suns to draft Jackson or Bamba than Bagley or Ayton. We needs defense more than scoring.

[lilfishi22]

Does it bother anyone else that Bamba really reminds them of Biyombo?

He's got better physicals but he'd be just as raw going into the draft. My preference would be a player with perhaps less potential but also more ready to contribute.

[Mulhollanddrive]

There's not really a 2 way player in this draft at the top.

Offense - Doncic, Bagley, Ayton, Porter
Defense - Bamba, Jackson

I really like the idea of Bamba or Jackson as defensive game changers for us though they are riskier picks but that's why they're slated at 5-7.

[In2ition]

I'm getting more and more convinced by the day that Bagley is the way to go for the Suns if they are lucky enough. I think he will be a great fit with Jackson, Warren and Booker. Along with being a good fit next to the center of choice.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I'm starting to think that it would be better for Suns to draft Jackson or Bamba than Bagley or Ayton. We needs defense more than scoring.

I don't agree with this. I think this team needs more scoring. Outside of booker and warren they don't have anyone else that can be counted on to get buckets so when one of those two struggles the suns have almost no chance to win. Good teams have multiple scorers.

Now the d sucks too so improving that isn't a bad thing but if they go that route early in the draft they need to find a bucket getter another route.

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[In2ition]

I'm starting to think that it would be better for Suns to draft Jackson or Bamba than Bagley or Ayton. We needs defense more than scoring.

I don't agree with this. I think this team needs more scoring. Outside of booker and warren they don't have anyone else that can be counted on to get buckets so when one of those two struggles the suns have almost no chance to win. Good teams have multiple scorers.

Now the d sucks too so improving that isn't a bad thing but if they go that route early in the draft they need to find a bucket getter another route.

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I agree. They need more gravitational forces on the offensive end. With Booker out, they are painfully unable to score when they need to. More players that can draw fouls on the other team and put pressure on their defense too. I wouldn't even call Warren a gravitational force, almost a garbage player that scores unconventionally.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

I'm starting to think that it would be better for Suns to draft Jackson or Bamba than Bagley or Ayton. We needs defense more than scoring.

I don't agree with this. I think this team needs more scoring. Outside of booker and warren they don't have anyone else that can be counted on to get buckets so when one of those two struggles the suns have almost no chance to win. Good teams have multiple scorers.

Now the d sucks too so improving that isn't a bad thing but if they go that route early in the draft they need to find a bucket getter another route.

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I agree. They need more gravitational forces on the offensive end. With Booker out, they are painfully unable to score when they need to. More players that can draw fouls on the other team and put pressure on their defense too. I wouldn't even call Warren a gravitational force, almost a garbage player that scores unconventionally.

Warren has developed into a two-way player, by my eyes. He's better defensively than I expected him to be, and not quite as good offensively (yes, my hopes have always been high in that regard).

I think it's pretty clear we need an offensively talented big. I've been with Bagley and I'm staying with him. I like Ayton as well. While Donkic may be the best overall prospect, we might be the team that could use him the least, given the similarities with Booker.

[jcsunsfan]

I'm starting to think that it would be better for Suns to draft Jackson or Bamba than Bagley or Ayton. We needs defense more than scoring.

I don't agree with this. I think this team needs more scoring. Outside of booker and warren they don't have anyone else that can be counted on to get buckets so when one of those two struggles the suns have almost no chance to win. Good teams have multiple scorers.

Now the d sucks too so improving that isn't a bad thing but if they go that route early in the draft they need to find a bucket getter another route.

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I agree. We need another scorer. I would love to be able to bring Brandon Knight off the bench right now. Can’t believe I just said that.


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[jcsunsfan]

I don't agree with this. I think this team needs more scoring. Outside of booker and warren they don't have anyone else that can be counted on to get buckets so when one of those two struggles the suns have almost no chance to win. Good teams have multiple scorers.

Now the d sucks too so improving that isn't a bad thing but if they go that route early in the draft they need to find a bucket getter another route.

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I agree. They need more gravitational forces on the offensive end. With Booker out, they are painfully unable to score when they need to. More players that can draw fouls on the other team and put pressure on their defense too. I wouldn't even call Warren a gravitational force, almost a garbage player that scores unconventionally.

Warren has developed into a two-way player, by my eyes. He's better defensively than I expected him to be, and not quite as good offensively (yes, my hopes have always been high in that regard).

I think it's pretty clear we need an offensively talented big. I've been with Bagley and I'm staying with him. I like Ayton as well. While Donkic may be the best overall prospect, we might be the team that could use him the least, given the similarities with Booker.

I was thinking about that the other day. His game is a lot like Booker’s.


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[AtheJ415]

We can't pass on Doncic if he's there imo. The entire movement towards positionless basketball, and the advantage of having versatile players like Bender and Jackson and Chriss, who can potentially play a few positions, is that we can take the BPA. I agree that a big is probably the better fit, but we need playmaking too, and Doncic is that in spades.

This draft has some good centers later on (guys like Metu will be there potentially with the Milwaukee pick), and the best FA's we could hope to get are centers (Cousins, Capela, even Okafor if we want to take that flier). If we feel one of Ayton or Bagley are going to end up the best player, then we should take them, but we should not be drafting on fit at this point. Doncic is a versatile offensive playmaker. Lucky for us, we can pair him with versatile defenders in Jackson and Bender.

[AtheJ415]

I think we're going to end up with the 3rd or 4th reverse standings spot at the end of this given how Dallas and Sacramento have been playing. I also don't think Memphis stays this bad. Miami imo is going to be 11 or 12. Milwaukee pick might not convey this season given how they are playing as of late.

[In2ition]

Call me delusional, but I keep thinking the Suns are going to win the lottery this year, no matter where they fall within the bottom 5-6. Just finally feels like it's their year. Idk, maybe I am delusional.