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Post#381 » by Trader_Joe » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:55 pm

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Trader_Joe wrote:I'd be interesting in shopping DMC and Harris.
Their values are high right now. Ideally I'd want more cap for next summer and whatever assets we can get. Harris is expiring and I can see a lot of teams valuing his shooting.

After trading Booker, would the Nets still consider trading DMC as their only vet leader. Imo they should if the return is good enough.

Nah. We need to keep someone vets here and continuity. Can’t add someone like Okafor and not have a legitimate locker room presence.

Agree, especially with Lin in Canada. I think we look to in the off season though. We need to get value from DMC while we can.
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Post#382 » by steady » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:01 pm

Trader_Joe wrote:
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School_Kid wrote:After trading Booker, would the Nets still consider trading DMC as their only vet leader. Imo they should if the return is good enough.

Nah. We need to keep someone vets here and continuity. Can’t add someone like Okafor and not have a legitimate locker room presence.

Agree, especially with Lin in Canada. I think we look to in the off season though. We need to get value from DMC while we can.


I don't see DMC being traded but (sadly) I think that chances that Harris is traded by Feb 8th trade deadline are 50'percemt or higher
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Post#383 » by TheBrooklynKidd » Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:32 pm

We should see if there’s a way to get Memphis’ top 3 protected pick in a Chandler Parsons salary dump.
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Post#384 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:56 pm

TheBrooklynKidd wrote:We should see if there’s a way to get Memphis’ top 3 protected pick in a Chandler Parsons salary dump.


That would be a horrible idea. We've already taken on enough salary dump deals, we got lucky that Carroll is playing his best basketball.
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Post#385 » by bud29 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:08 am

TheBrooklynKidd wrote:We should see if there’s a way to get Memphis’ top 3 protected pick in a Chandler Parsons salary dump.

I mean, it’d be worth it if we get a killer pick, but any GM who unloads a killer pick to dump salary isn’t going to have his job very long - probably not realistic.

Now, if Conley comes back and they rattle off a massive win streak, they absolutely could start dangling their 1st rounder. Not sure if it’d be worth it for us at that point, though. That contract is an albatross.
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Post#386 » by Netaman » Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:37 pm

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Paradise wrote:Nah. We need to keep someone vets here and continuity. Can’t add someone like Okafor and not have a legitimate locker room presence.

Agree, especially with Lin in Canada. I think we look to in the off season though. We need to get value from DMC while we can.


I don't see DMC being traded but (sadly) I think that chances that Harris is traded by Feb 8th trade deadline are 50'percemt or higher


Completely agree - saw someone on twitter suggest trading him for an athletic PF on a winning team that can't get a lot of PT like Trey Lyles. That would seem to make sense since Harris is going to be gone in the offseason.
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Post#387 » by Kolkmania » Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:40 pm

TheBrooklynKidd wrote:We should see if there’s a way to get Memphis’ top 3 protected pick in a Chandler Parsons salary dump.


They owe their pick to the Celtics in 2019 if it falls out of the top 8 or so, has restrictions for the following years as well. Due to Stepien rule it's not possible to trade their first rounders in consecutive years, so not even possible right?
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Post#388 » by TheBrooklynKidd » Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:59 pm

Kolkmania wrote:
TheBrooklynKidd wrote:We should see if there’s a way to get Memphis’ top 3 protected pick in a Chandler Parsons salary dump.


They owe their pick to the Celtics in 2019 if it falls out of the top 8 or so, has restrictions for the following years as well. Due to Stepien rule it's not possible to trade their first rounders in consecutive years, so not even possible right?


Correct unless we send back Toronto’s pick.
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Post#389 » by Prokorov » Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:49 pm

TheBrooklynKidd wrote:We should see if there’s a way to get Memphis’ top 3 protected pick in a Chandler Parsons salary dump.


we dont have the cap space... and without booker we no longer have the expiring salary to really make that work
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Post#390 » by Keith Van Horn » Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:26 pm

Honestly don't think there will be any other moves we make at this point in the season. The organization probably wants to see what Kenny can do with Okafor and then what they'll look like with Dlo coming back after the new year.

I can see them trying to move up in the draft next year though.
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Post#391 » by TheNetsFan » Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:32 pm

George Hill isn't happy in Sacramento (who is?). He has 2 more years on his contract at big money, but that 2nd year is only guaranteed for $1mil. If we can get him for a song (Mozgov & Toronto 1st), Lin+Stauskas, Crabbe, he may be worth a look. He has that Spurs connection.
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Post#392 » by UTJazzFan_Echo1 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:23 pm

Jazz fan here: What exactly are you guys looking for in trades nowadays?

Asking because I really don't know what you guys want now that your cap space is all eaten up.

Would there be any interest in structuring a deal around Rubio + Hood for Dinwiddie + Carroll?
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Post#393 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:31 am

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TheBrooklynKidd wrote:We should see if there’s a way to get Memphis’ top 3 protected pick in a Chandler Parsons salary dump.


we dont have the cap space... and without booker we no longer have the expiring salary to really make that work

Boston has Memphis' pick starting in 2019 with light protection, which gets lighter each year and eventually unprotected, they can't trade a pick for awhile.

I was wondering the other day if we wind up doing something like Mozgod and Lin for Parsons and a couple 2nds. Maybe the best of Miami's, Charlotte's, Memphis' or Phoenix's '18 and Memphis' '19.

Don't think it makes a lot of sense for us, but it is another one of those Markinson gamble for a couple picks deals.
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Post#394 » by Mosdefinition » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:32 am

UTJazzFan_Echo1 wrote:Jazz fan here: What exactly are you guys looking for in trades nowadays?

Asking because I really don't know what you guys want now that your cap space is all eaten up.

Would there be any interest in structuring a deal around Rubio + Hood for Dinwiddie + Carroll?


For nostalgia I'd rather have Derrick favors back over getting Rubio

I'm not trading dinwiddie until I see how he plays with Russell though
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Post#395 » by Mosdefinition » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:34 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:
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TheBrooklynKidd wrote:We should see if there’s a way to get Memphis’ top 3 protected pick in a Chandler Parsons salary dump.


we dont have the cap space... and without booker we no longer have the expiring salary to really make that work

Boston has Memphis' pick starting in 2019 with light protection, which gets lighter each year and eventually unprotected, they can't trade a pick for awhile.

I was wondering the other day if we wind up doing something like Mozgod and Lin for Parsons and a couple 2nds. Maybe the best of Miami's, Charlotte's, Memphis' or Phoenix's '18 and Memphis' '19.

Don't think it makes a lot of sense for us, but it is another one of those Markinson gamble for a couple picks deals.


I think this just creates an even bigger glut at the wing position
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Post#396 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:38 am

UTJazzFan_Echo1 wrote:Jazz fan here: What exactly are you guys looking for in trades nowadays?

Asking because I really don't know what you guys want now that your cap space is all eaten up.

Would there be any interest in structuring a deal around Rubio + Hood for Dinwiddie + Carroll?

Doubt something like that gets it done. Dinwiddie has the look of a long term core piece, he's a really effective role player and still on a vet min deal next season. Very much like a slightly taller George Hill

Carroll might be a candidate for trade, but would probably be part of an unlikely, out of nowhere big deal as the (useful)salary filler.
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Post#397 » by steady » Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:43 am

I just don't see DMC being traded -- his value to Nets is higher than for any other team because of his connections to Atkinson and his role as vet leader of the team. After him who is there.. ? Mozgov? Zeller! Acy? Harris? He is essential to the lockerroom - especially with Booker gone
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Post#398 » by Claud » Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:02 am

steady wrote:I just don't see DMC being traded -- his value to Nets is higher than for any other team because of his connections to Atkinson and his role as vet leader of the team. After him who is there.. ? Mozgov? Zeller! Acy? Harris? He is essential to the lockerroom - especially with Booker gone


especially if he's as productive on the court as he's been.

I bet Mozgov buyout is the next move. Joe Harris will be a hot name until the trade deadline.
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Post#399 » by TheNetsFan » Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:19 am

UTJazzFan_Echo1 wrote:Jazz fan here: What exactly are you guys looking for in trades nowadays?

Asking because I really don't know what you guys want now that your cap space is all eaten up.

Would there be any interest in structuring a deal around Rubio + Hood for Dinwiddie + Carroll?

Every move is done with an eye towards building for 2020 and beyond. Dinwiddie is likely a part of that future vision. Carroll won't be. Rubio wouldn't be. Hood possibly could be, but we're currently very deep at wing, and he's due a raise.

I don't see Dinwiddie getting moved unless it's part of a mega deal or to help dump Mozgov. If you swap Mozgov for Carroll, I think Marks considers it, but even that's not a given. DLo-Dinwiddie-LeVert is looking like the backcourt rotation of the future.
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Post#400 » by TheNetsFan » Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:22 am

Claud wrote:
steady wrote:I just don't see DMC being traded -- his value to Nets is higher than for any other team because of his connections to Atkinson and his role as vet leader of the team. After him who is there.. ? Mozgov? Zeller! Acy? Harris? He is essential to the lockerroom - especially with Booker gone


especially if he's as productive on the court as he's been.

I bet Mozgov buyout is the next move. Joe Harris will be a hot name until the trade deadline.

You would think that if a Mozgov buy-out was coming, it would've happened before waiving Kilpatrick.

As far as DMC goes, he'll be traded for the first good offer. Expirings and a pick gets it done.

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