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Re: 12/11 - 7PM CST | G26: Charlotte Hornets at Oklahoma City Thunder 

Post#81 » by Thundershock88 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:23 pm

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Kinda hard when you have no development and get sent and back and fourth to Tulsa 3 times a week no? OKC was to worried about winning to develop young guys back then. They knew they had a window. To this day I still feel bad for rookies thay get drafted to OKC. They will never reach anything close to full potential as long as russell is there. Brooks being fired was a step in the right direction at least. Brooks had the irrational expectations for young guys to be more consistent without consistent playing time and I think the lack of development in younger players really hurt the organization as a whole. You guys let Lamb walk for nothing.


Correct. Which is the reason why he had more minutes per game in 2013–14 in OKC than any other season until this year.

Hang on a minute...

Also the reason why Reggie Jackson never developed and neither did Steven Adams.


Oh Reggie Jackson? The guy who averaged 17.6 and 9.2 assists on the pistons the same year he averaged 12.8 and 4.3 assists in OKC. Or how about Steven Adam's who after his rookie season under Brooks went from 7.7 ppg in 14-15 to 8.0 ppg with less rebounds in 15-16. A whole .3 ppg increase with less rebounds. Just the definition of development lmao. Not sure if that was a joke or not...


You do realize Reggie didn't start here, right?!?? That was also the year we were down to 6 healthy players at one point. One of those reasons being Reggie refusing to play...
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Re: 12/11 - 7PM CST | G26: Charlotte Hornets at Oklahoma City Thunder 

Post#82 » by bondom34 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:25 pm

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Ya for saying the unpopular truth

Actually for stanning for a solid bench wing. Again.


Solid bench player who is better than anyone in OKC other than russell and pg13 who is going to leave so fast when this season is over lmao. Ban me again Idgaf

Ok then. Reported.

And he's not as good as Adams at all. Or Dre prior to this year.
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Post#83 » by Joest2003 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:26 pm

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Correct. Which is the reason why he had more minutes per game in 2013–14 in OKC than any other season until this year.

Hang on a minute...

Also the reason why Reggie Jackson never developed and neither did Steven Adams.


Oh Reggie Jackson? The guy who averaged 17.6 and 9.2 assists on the pistons the same year he averaged 12.8 and 4.3 assists in OKC. Or how about Steven Adam's who after his rookie season under Brooks went from 7.7 ppg in 14-15 to 8.0 ppg with less rebounds in 15-16. A whole .3 ppg increase with less rebounds. Just the definition of development lmao. Not sure if that was a joke or not...


You do realize Reggie didn't start here, right?!??


He got 4 more minutes in detrout and had to go against starters. Let's not act like he went from 15 Mpg to 35
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Re: 12/11 - 7PM CST | G26: Charlotte Hornets at Oklahoma City Thunder 

Post#84 » by Joest2003 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:28 pm

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bondom34 wrote:Actually for stanning for a solid bench wing. Again.


Solid bench player who is better than anyone in OKC other than russell and pg13 who is going to leave so fast when this season is over lmao. Ban me again Idgaf

Ok then. Reported.

And he's not as good as Adams at all. Or Dre prior to this year.


LMAO u mean that guy who airballs free throws and completely destroys your spacing?
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Post#85 » by bondom34 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:30 pm

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Solid bench player who is better than anyone in OKC other than russell and pg13 who is going to leave so fast when this season is over lmao. Ban me again Idgaf

Ok then. Reported.

And he's not as good as Adams at all. Or Dre prior to this year.


LMAO u mean that guy who airballs free throws and completely destroys your spacing?

Better than the guy who routinely stands idly by and spaces out on the court yes.
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Re: 12/11 - 7PM CST | G26: Charlotte Hornets at Oklahoma City Thunder 

Post#86 » by Thundershock88 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:36 pm

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Oh Reggie Jackson? The guy who averaged 17.6 and 9.2 assists on the pistons the same year he averaged 12.8 and 4.3 assists in OKC. Or how about Steven Adam's who after his rookie season under Brooks went from 7.7 ppg in 14-15 to 8.0 ppg with less rebounds in 15-16. A whole .3 ppg increase with less rebounds. Just the definition of development lmao. Not sure if that was a joke or not...


You do realize Reggie didn't start here, right?!??


He got 4 more minutes in detrout and had to go against starters. Let's not act like he went from 15 Mpg to 35



What part of malcontent do you not understand? He didn't want to be in OKC and he was playing with a mash unit. His talent was never in question. It was his attitude, and guess who his best friends were? PJ 3 and Lamb...
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Re: 12/11 - 7PM CST | G26: Charlotte Hornets at Oklahoma City Thunder 

Post#87 » by Andre Roberstan » Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:37 pm

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bondom34 wrote:
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Ya for saying the unpopular truth

Actually for stanning for a solid bench wing. Again.


Solid bench player who is better than anyone in OKC other than russell and pg13 who is going to leave so fast when this season is over lmao. Ban me again Idgaf


Take a timeout. You were borderline at the start but there's no reason for you to come on this board if this is the limit to your contributions.
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Post#88 » by bondom34 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:40 pm

Well the post game thread was more entertaining than the game TBH.
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Re: 12/11 - 7PM CST | G26: Charlotte Hornets at Oklahoma City Thunder 

Post#89 » by Thundershock88 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:44 pm

Well, I think the 2003 explains it all. Must be birth year. :lol:
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Post#90 » by Joest2003 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:48 pm

bondom34 wrote:Well the post game thread was more entertaining than the game TBH.


I'm the guy you guys love to hate. But deep down you all know I am right and been right all along and it kills you to admit it so you all just argue against me till I get banned.
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Post#91 » by bondom34 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:54 pm

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bondom34 wrote:Well the post game thread was more entertaining than the game TBH.


I'm the guy you guys love to hate. But deep down you all know I am right and been right all along and it kills you to admit it so you all just argue against me till I get banned.

In my nearly 5 years here you've only posted on this board to prop up a middling, low motor SG who until 25 games ago wasn't nearly a starting caliber player. You were banned for it even. You asked for reinstatement to come back and it was granted in good will. Now you came back with terribly incorrect opinions on how a coach renowned for player development failed your favorite player. This despite a laundry list of players on 2 teams now who developed successfully under him.

Jeremy Lamb isn't that good. Hes a 15 ppg starter at his peak on the NBA. Hes a fine player off the bench. But the obsession is strange and the takes are so far out of touch with reality its a little hard to take seriously.
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Post#92 » by Andre Roberstan » Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:55 pm

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bondom34 wrote:Well the post game thread was more entertaining than the game TBH.


I'm the guy you guys love to hate. But deep down you all know I am right and been right all along and it kills you to admit it so you all just argue against me till I get banned.


You're only in danger of getting banned if you keep going after people. Really. Is this necessary?

I like not banning people. It's less work. Let me be lazy, please.
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Re: 12/11 - 7PM CST | G26: Charlotte Hornets at Oklahoma City Thunder 

Post#93 » by Joest2003 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:00 pm

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Joest2003 wrote:
bondom34 wrote:Well the post game thread was more entertaining than the game TBH.


I'm the guy you guys love to hate. But deep down you all know I am right and been right all along and it kills you to admit it so you all just argue against me till I get banned.

In my nearly 5 years here you've only posted on this board to prop up a middling, low motor SG who until 25 games ago wasn't nearly a starting caliber player. You were banned for it even. You asked for reinstatement to come back and it was granted in good will. Now you came back with terribly incorrect opinions on how a coach renowned for player development failed your favorite player. This despite a laundry list of players on 2 teams now who developed successfully under him.

Jeremy Lamb isn't that good. Hes a 15 ppg starter at his peak on the NBA. Hes a fine player off the bench. But the obsession is strange and the takes are so far out of touch with reality its a little hard to take seriously.


Correction I was banned because my opinion isn't popular and people arguing against me happen to be mods. Cough cough. First off Lamb is not a starter he filled in for injured Batum. He's not in his prime he is only 25. And I challenge you to find a take of mine that is out of touch with reality..

Being out of reality would be acting like OKC is better off with Abrines, Singler, and Ferguson coming off the bench than Lamb and trying to justify every reason for it.
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Re: 12/11 - 7PM CST | G26: Charlotte Hornets at Oklahoma City Thunder 

Post#94 » by Joest2003 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:02 pm

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bondom34 wrote:Well the post game thread was more entertaining than the game TBH.


I'm the guy you guys love to hate. But deep down you all know I am right and been right all along and it kills you to admit it so you all just argue against me till I get banned.


You're only in danger of getting banned if you keep going after people. Really. Is this necessary?

I like not banning people. It's less work. Let me be lazy, please.


Funny how you ignore everyone that keeps going against me...that's cool tho
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Post#95 » by bondom34 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:03 pm

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Joest2003 wrote:
I'm the guy you guys love to hate. But deep down you all know I am right and been right all along and it kills you to admit it so you all just argue against me till I get banned.

In my nearly 5 years here you've only posted on this board to prop up a middling, low motor SG who until 25 games ago wasn't nearly a starting caliber player. You were banned for it even. You asked for reinstatement to come back and it was granted in good will. Now you came back with terribly incorrect opinions on how a coach renowned for player development failed your favorite player. This despite a laundry list of players on 2 teams now who developed successfully under him.

Jeremy Lamb isn't that good. Hes a 15 ppg starter at his peak on the NBA. Hes a fine player off the bench. But the obsession is strange and the takes are so far out of touch with reality its a little hard to take seriously.


Correction I was banned because my opinion isn't popular and people arguing against me happen to be mods. Cough cough. First off Lamb is not a starter he filled in for injured Batum. He's not in his prime he is only 25. And I challenge you to find a take of mine that is out of touch with reality..

Being out of reality would be acting like OKC is better off with Abrines, Singler, and Ferguson coming off the bench than Lamb and trying to justify every reason for it.

Literally this whole thread.

And I don't think anyone said he's worse than Abrines or Singler. They're not even NBA caliber by now. But your entire take here is wrong and its laid out for you by many, including Hornets fans elsewhere.

And you'd care I can link to where you were banned previously when I get home. It wasn't for differing opinions and I don't think you want to have everyone see it who hasn't.
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Post#96 » by Andre Roberstan » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:08 pm

bondom34 wrote:
Joest2003 wrote:
bondom34 wrote:In my nearly 5 years here you've only posted on this board to prop up a middling, low motor SG who until 25 games ago wasn't nearly a starting caliber player. You were banned for it even. You asked for reinstatement to come back and it was granted in good will. Now you came back with terribly incorrect opinions on how a coach renowned for player development failed your favorite player. This despite a laundry list of players on 2 teams now who developed successfully under him.

Jeremy Lamb isn't that good. Hes a 15 ppg starter at his peak on the NBA. Hes a fine player off the bench. But the obsession is strange and the takes are so far out of touch with reality its a little hard to take seriously.


Correction I was banned because my opinion isn't popular and people arguing against me happen to be mods. Cough cough. First off Lamb is not a starter he filled in for injured Batum. He's not in his prime he is only 25. And I challenge you to find a take of mine that is out of touch with reality..

Being out of reality would be acting like OKC is better off with Abrines, Singler, and Ferguson coming off the bench than Lamb and trying to justify every reason for it.

Literally this whole thread.

And I don't think anyone said he's worse than Abrines or Singler. They're not even NBA caliber by now. But your entire take here is wrong and its laid out for you by many, including Hornets fans elsewhere.

And you'd care I can link to where you were banned previously when I get home. It wasn't for differing opinions and I don't think you want to have everyone see it who hasn't.


Not worth dredging up. Leave it be.
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Re: 12/11 - 7PM CST | G26: Charlotte Hornets at Oklahoma City Thunder 

Post#97 » by Joest2003 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:08 pm

bondom34 wrote:
Joest2003 wrote:
bondom34 wrote:In my nearly 5 years here you've only posted on this board to prop up a middling, low motor SG who until 25 games ago wasn't nearly a starting caliber player. You were banned for it even. You asked for reinstatement to come back and it was granted in good will. Now you came back with terribly incorrect opinions on how a coach renowned for player development failed your favorite player. This despite a laundry list of players on 2 teams now who developed successfully under him.

Jeremy Lamb isn't that good. Hes a 15 ppg starter at his peak on the NBA. Hes a fine player off the bench. But the obsession is strange and the takes are so far out of touch with reality its a little hard to take seriously.


Correction I was banned because my opinion isn't popular and people arguing against me happen to be mods. Cough cough. First off Lamb is not a starter he filled in for injured Batum. He's not in his prime he is only 25. And I challenge you to find a take of mine that is out of touch with reality..

Being out of reality would be acting like OKC is better off with Abrines, Singler, and Ferguson coming off the bench than Lamb and trying to justify every reason for it.

Literally this whole thread.

And I don't think anyone said he's worse than Abrines or Singler. They're not even NBA caliber by now. But your entire take here is wrong and its laid out for you by many, including Hornets fans elsewhere.

And you'd care I can link to where you were banned previously when I get home. It wasn't for differing opinions and I don't think you want to have everyone see it who hasn't.



So you admit he's better than the bench wings on OKC but also say my take it wrong....hmmm that's strange considering my take was that Brooks shold have developed him so in the future OKC would have a consistent SG off the bench instead of Singler and Abrines....
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Re: 12/11 - 7PM CST | G26: Charlotte Hornets at Oklahoma City Thunder 

Post#98 » by bondom34 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:10 pm

Joest2003 wrote:
bondom34 wrote:
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Correction I was banned because my opinion isn't popular and people arguing against me happen to be mods. Cough cough. First off Lamb is not a starter he filled in for injured Batum. He's not in his prime he is only 25. And I challenge you to find a take of mine that is out of touch with reality..

Being out of reality would be acting like OKC is better off with Abrines, Singler, and Ferguson coming off the bench than Lamb and trying to justify every reason for it.

Literally this whole thread.

And I don't think anyone said he's worse than Abrines or Singler. They're not even NBA caliber by now. But your entire take here is wrong and its laid out for you by many, including Hornets fans elsewhere.

And you'd care I can link to where you were banned previously when I get home. It wasn't for differing opinions and I don't think you want to have everyone see it who hasn't.



So you admit he's better than the bench wings on OKC but also say my take it wrong....hmmm that's strange considering my take was that Brooks shold have developed him so in the future OKC would have a consistent SG off the bench instead of Singler and Abrines....

Except if they wanted until 2017 for him to become a passable bench player that's not much help. He sucked until now.
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Post#99 » by Joest2003 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:12 pm

My whole stance in the past was that Lamb has potential and needs to be developed so IN THE FUTURE he can help KD and Russell because all championship teams have some good scorers off the bench. It is now the future and he's now doing that for the Hornets instead. If you admit he would be helping OKC this year off the bench then you agree with my take. Not sure how this is so hard to comprehend
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Post#100 » by Andre Roberstan » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:20 pm

Joest2003 wrote:My whole stance in the past was that Lamb has potential and needs to be developed so IN THE FUTURE he can help KD and Russell because all championship teams have some good scorers off the bench. It is now the future and he's now doing that for the Hornets instead. If you admit he would be helping OKC this year off the bench then you agree with my take. Not sure how this is so hard to comprehend


The thing that everyone took exception to is your stance on OKC's development of young players, the assertion that no one developed in OKC and basically that no one ever would while Russ was here.

Lamb would be useful now. But you basically said that Lamb was an example of OKC being bad at development and used it to back up your assertion that no young players developed in OKC, at which point the regulars on the board told you you were wrong.
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