Game 29: Phoenix Suns (9-19) at Sacramento Kings (8-18), Tuesday, December 12th, 8PM MST

RaisingArizona · Post #81 » by **RaisingArizona** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:21 am

I'm not going to root for us to lose 30 games into a season. I realize this year is a lost cause but I just can't.

bigfoot · Post #82 » by **bigfoot** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:21 am

ginobiliflops wrote:
bigfoot wrote:
ginobiliflops wrote:The Kings could say the same.

No not really.

Skal, Fox, WCS?

WCS is 23
ZBo, Hill, Garrett 36, 31, 31

Fox, Skal, Papa (DNP) are 21 and under

Mulhollanddrive · Post #83 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:22 am

If they rest Hill and Randolph like we rested Dudley and Monroe we probably win.

darealjuice · Post #84 » by **darealjuice** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:23 am

ginobiliflops wrote:I'm not going to root for us to lose 30 games into a season. I realize this year is a lost cause but I just can't.

Don't root for the loss, just look at the bright side when we don't win :dontknow:

RaisingArizona · Post #85 » by **RaisingArizona** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:23 am

I stand corrected bigfoot.

Also, Fox outplayed Jackson by a lot. It hurts.

Book1Nation · Post #86 » by **Book1Nation** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:23 am

Our offense is such trash.

We have basically 3 plays. ISO Warren, ISO James, pass it around the perimeter until someone chucks a 3.

I mean Jesus. They play hard for Triano but he hasn’t shown me enough to keep him as the full time HC after this year.

RaisingArizona · Post #87 » by **RaisingArizona** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:27 am

Golanator wrote:Our offense is such trash.

We have basically 3 plays. ISO Warren, ISO James, pass it around the perimeter until someone chucks a 3.

I mean Jesus. They play hard for Triano but he hasn’t shown me enough to keep him as the full time HC after this year.

We need to look elsewhere and get someone proven.

bigfoot · Post #88 » by **bigfoot** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:29 am

Jackson with a poor, poor showing ... so much for tanking for star players ... 3-14 shooting, 4TOs, -16 worst on team.

.394 Shooting / .239 three point / .551 free throw on the season ... lordy JJ needs to go back to college.

Post #89 » by **bwgood77** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:30 am

LOL, Eddie Johnson talking about how JJ can't do 1 on 4 fast breaks. Works in HS and mostly in college, but in the NBA, no, and Josh hasn't figured that out yet, but he will if these turnovers continue to pile up.

Post #90 » by **bwgood77** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:33 am

ginobiliflops wrote:I'm not going to root for us to lose 30 games into a season. I realize this year is a lost cause but I just can't.

I never root for us to lose either. But when we do in seasons like this there are obviously silver linings. Especially against bad teams.

Post #91 » by **bwgood77** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:35 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:Triano could have won this game if he was serious.

Monroe and Dudley DNP and only 9 man rotation.

I liked ducler's listing "Monroe - questionable - centre rotation" What kind of listing is that?

AtheJ415 · Post #92 » by **AtheJ415** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:35 am

Jackson played awful, but for all of you who are already writing somebody off 30 games into their career, don't suddenly become fans of his when he starts playing well.

RaisingArizona · Post #93 » by **RaisingArizona** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:36 am

Josh was talking about how teams would regret passing on him and this and that this offseason lol. Just doesn't seem ready at all.

bigfoot · Post #94 » by **bigfoot** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:38 am

Golanator wrote:Our offense is such trash.

We have basically 3 plays. ISO Warren, ISO James, pass it around the perimeter until someone chucks a 3.

I mean Jesus. They play hard for Triano but he hasn’t shown me enough to keep him as the full time HC after this year.

The problem is we don't have enough shooters ... Daniels, Booker, Dudley. The team needs to start drafting college players that shoot more than .500 FG and .900 FT or get some vets that can shoot. You can design plays all you want but if you can't hit the open shot then oh well !!

Post #95 » by **bwgood77** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:42 am

ginobiliflops wrote:Josh was talking about how teams would regret passing on him and this and that this offseason lol. Just doesn't seem ready at all.

C'mon, it's a little early to throw that quote in his face. He isn't ready, but he is out there working his ass off. Pretty much the only wings immediately ready are those who are great shooters because that usually translates quickly.

AtheJ415 · Post #96 » by **AtheJ415** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:43 am

ginobiliflops wrote:Josh was talking about how teams would regret passing on him and this and that this offseason lol. Just doesn't seem ready at all.

His playmaking / decisionmaking has been much worse than expected. The good thing is his defense has shown good signs. Also, his jumper motion has some clear improvement from a fundamental standpoint relative to before the draft. At some point, that will show. Buddy Hield, for instance, was not all that great a shooter until he was an upperclassman in college.

The thing with Jackson is that he clearly cares and has a high motor. That is a lot of the battle as far as improving on skill level attributes.

King Ken · Post #97 » by **King Ken** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:44 am

bwgood77 wrote:
ginobiliflops wrote:Josh was talking about how teams would regret passing on him and this and that this offseason lol. Just doesn't seem ready at all.

C'mon, it's a little early to throw that quote in his face. He isn't ready, but he is out there working his ass off. Pretty much the only wings immediately ready are those who are great shooters because that usually translates quickly.

Phoenix puts too much responsibility on their young players. There is no legit vets who can carry the load for PHX like BOS has.

Mulhollanddrive · Post #98 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:44 am

Alex Len keeps producing in limited minutes - 9 points, 8 rebounds in 19 minutes.

Averages 13 points, 13 rebounds, 1 block on 118 Offensive Rating per 30 minutes.

RaisingArizona · Post #99 » by **RaisingArizona** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:45 am

bwgood77 wrote:
ginobiliflops wrote:Josh was talking about how teams would regret passing on him and this and that this offseason lol. Just doesn't seem ready at all.

C'mon, it's a little early to throw that quote in his face. He isn't ready, but he is out there working his ass off. Pretty much the only wings immediately ready are those who are great shooters because that usually translates quickly.

I hope his play motivates him to get better.

AtheJ415 · Post #100 » by **AtheJ415** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:47 am

King Ken wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
ginobiliflops wrote:Josh was talking about how teams would regret passing on him and this and that this offseason lol. Just doesn't seem ready at all.

C'mon, it's a little early to throw that quote in his face. He isn't ready, but he is out there working his ass off. Pretty much the only wings immediately ready are those who are great shooters because that usually translates quickly.

Phoenix puts too much responsibility on their young players. There is no legit vets who can carry the load for PHX like BOS has.

Booker can carry the load offensively. He needs more help though, and the real issue is and has been, that the team is not well-coached. It's insane to really compare Phoenix's talent to Boston's because Stephens makes even guys as awful shooting the ball as Marcus Smart look good. Phoenix had a yoga instructor as a coach, and while Triano has them playing hard that is only a part of the equation to being a successful team.