Game 29: Phoenix Suns (9-19) at Sacramento Kings (8-18), Tuesday, December 12th, 8PM MST

[AtheJ415]

Alex Len keeps producing in limited minutes - 9 points, 8 rebounds in 19 minutes.

Averages 13 points, 13 rebounds, 1 block on 118 Offensive Rating per 30 minutes.

He's actually been solid overall for about 2 years, but this board will keep insisting he's a bust until he retires after a 10 year career.

[DirtyDez]

Bottom 5!

[bwgood77]

Josh was talking about how teams would regret passing on him and this and that this offseason lol. Just doesn't seem ready at all.

C'mon, it's a little early to throw that quote in his face. He isn't ready, but he is out there working his ass off. Pretty much the only wings immediately ready are those who are great shooters because that usually translates quickly.

Phoenix puts too much responsibility on their young players. There is no legit vets who can carry the load for PHX like BOS has.

Maybe, but the last two years they decided to throw the young guys into the fire. Prior to that we were playing guys like Tucker ahead of guys and fans were not happy that we had vets on a team going nowhere and not letting our kids learn by playing. Some think Jackson doesn't play enough. Chriss and Bender's minutes have been limited to some extent, partly because they are both playing similar minutes at that spot. We usually mostly play vets at C though.

We are not fighting for the playoffs though so I don't know why you are comparing us to Boston. I mean they signed two all stars in free agency and traded for another in Irving. There is not a big defensive focus usually on guys like Tatum, Brown and Smart (for good reason on the last one).

[jcsunsfan]

I swear. Such horrible shots in the 4th: just throwing the ball at the rim. Junior high type stuff.


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[AtheJ415]

I swear. Such horrible shots in the 4th: just throwing the ball at the rim. Junior high type stuff.


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I know. It was clutch tankitude.

[bwgood77]

I swear. Such horrible shots in the 4th: just throwing the ball at the rim. Junior high type stuff.


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I know. It was clutch tankitude.

You don't need to come into game threads on conclusion to make posts to rile up users. Everyone knows you want to lose. It's fairly obvious your intent when you come into game threads if you haven't participated to make such comments as this or "Great loss!"

There are obviously many others who feel the way you do but they don't rush into game threads at the end of every game thread to rub it in.

[DaleyBlind]

Jackson with a poor, poor showing ... so much for tanking for star players ... 3-14 shooting, 4TOs, -16 worst on team.

.394 Shooting / .239 three point / .551 free throw on the season ... lordy JJ needs to go back to college.

He has been so bad, he tries so hard, But he looks like a dead set scrub.

[Bjorpa]

Bottom 5!

"With the seventh pic of the 2018 NBA Draft, the Phoenix Suns select..."

[Damkac]

I'm not going to root for us to lose 30 games into a season. I realize this year is a lost cause but I just can't.

Don't root for the loss, just look at the bright side when we don't win

I would be happy if we won this game but we lose and I'm happy anyway. This will help our tank a lot.
Good to see some life from Chriss and Bender. JJ started nice but ended with very bad game. He is trying to do way too much. Even tried to steal Chandler his alley Let's hope it is just a matter of maturity for him. It's better when young player tries too much than when he don't tries at all I guess.

[Revived]

Josh was talking about how teams would regret passing on him and this and that this offseason lol. Just doesn't seem ready at all.

C'mon, it's a little early to throw that quote in his face. He isn't ready, but he is out there working his ass off. Pretty much the only wings immediately ready are those who are great shooters because that usually translates quickly.

Jackson should’ve worked on his 3pt shot this summer with Tatum and whoever worked with Tatum.

Tatum wasn’t a good 3pt shooter in college (even Jackson shot a better %) but busted his ass in the summer and is now one of the best 3pt shooters in the nba already and he’s even younger than Jackson.

Jackson right now plays a lot like Archie Goodwin but I still have hope for him to come through eventually.

[Frank Lee]

Jackson played awful, but for all of you who are already writing somebody off 30 games into their career, don't suddenly become fans of his when he starts playing well.

Why does Archie G come to mind when I read this ‘you just wait’ drivel. Hang on to those I told ya so cards, but keep in mind they do expire.

PS... I wrote this before reading Revived

[Frank Lee]

I swear. Such horrible shots in the 4th: just throwing the ball at the rim. Junior high type stuff.


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I know. It was clutch tankitude.

You don't need to come into game threads on conclusion to make posts to rile up users. Everyone knows you want to lose. It's fairly obvious your intent when you come into game threads if you haven't participated to make such comments as this or "Great loss!"

There are obviously many others who feel the way you do but they don't rush into game threads at the end of every game thread to rub it in.

This makes me chuckle

‘Put a muffler on that tank!’

Haha, so we have to fangeek out and post during game threads else tone down our comments? Wtf dude? I didn’t even watch this game. And the irony is I just happened to be in Sacramento.

I acknowledge that this team/organization is losing me.... and I’m no fair weather fan. These guys are on a slow methodical beat down of their fan base. If it wasn’t for the jollies here, I probably would have cashed in by now

[Funky Tut]

Bottom 5!

"With the seventh pic of the 2018 NBA Draft, the Phoenix Suns select..."

Ugh.....

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

The Kings could say the same.

No not really.

Skal, Fox, WCS?

Fox was mostly invisible on offense (which is okay for this stage of his development). Skal is okay, though I do prefer Chriss. But WCS was awful out there.

Worth noting that we were without a pretty notable 21 YO, and one of their recent draft picks doesn't get any burn (Papa G). When you factor in that Bogdanovic is a UFA in three years, that they are out a draft pick in 2019 (and have no other teams' firsts), you can't help but think that their rebuild is off to a false start. If I were them, I'd be doing anything I could to convert Hill into another pick.

[Qwigglez]

No not really.

Skal, Fox, WCS?

Fox was mostly invisible on offense (which is okay for this stage of his development). Skal is okay, though I do prefer Chriss. But WCS was awful out there.

Worth noting that we were without a pretty notable 21 YO, and one of their recent draft picks doesn't get any burn (Papa G). When you factor in that Bogdanovic is a UFA in three years, that they are out a draft pick in 2019 (and have no other teams' firsts), you can't help but think that their rebuild is off to a false start. If I were them, I'd be doing anything I could to convert Hill into another pick.

They have to get rid of a pick in order to trade Hill. So many cheaper alternatives out there for PG. If Bledsoe at 14mil lands the Suns a middling pick, than Hill at 19mil lands the Kings maybe a 2nd rounder but I doubt they can even get that.

[AtheJ415]

Jackson played awful, but for all of you who are already writing somebody off 30 games into their career, don't suddenly become fans of his when he starts playing well.

Why does Archie G come to mind when I read this ‘you just wait’ drivel. Hang on to those I told ya so cards, but keep in mind they do expire.

PS... I wrote this before reading Revived

Jimmy Butler comes to mind. A ton of guys actually. The odds of Jackson being a complete bust are low. To jump to the bust label any time a player plays bad is lazy and misinformed.

[AtheJ415]

I swear. Such horrible shots in the 4th: just throwing the ball at the rim. Junior high type stuff.


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I know. It was clutch tankitude.

You don't need to come into game threads on conclusion to make posts to rile up users. Everyone knows you want to lose. It's fairly obvious your intent when you come into game threads if you haven't participated to make such comments as this or "Great loss!"

There are obviously many others who feel the way you do but they don't rush into game threads at the end of every game thread to rub it in.

I'm rooting how I want to root in the way I see as the best path forward to the team. I should be able to do that however the hell I want, and I often post early in game threads, not just after we lose. But no, I won't be avoiding game threads just because certain people aren't happy that I choose to root for a loss rather than a win given the current state of the team.

[bigfoot]

I know. It was clutch tankitude.

You don't need to come into game threads on conclusion to make posts to rile up users. Everyone knows you want to lose. It's fairly obvious your intent when you come into game threads if you haven't participated to make such comments as this or "Great loss!"

There are obviously many others who feel the way you do but they don't rush into game threads at the end of every game thread to rub it in.

I'm rooting how I want to root in the way I see as the best path forward to the team. I should be able to do that however the hell I want, and I often post early in game threads, not just after we lose. But no, I won't be avoiding game threads just because certain people aren't happy that I choose to root for a loss rather than a win given the current state of the team.

[bigfoot]

Jackson played awful, but for all of you who are already writing somebody off 30 games into their career, don't suddenly become fans of his when he starts playing well.

Why does Archie G come to mind when I read this ‘you just wait’ drivel. Hang on to those I told ya so cards, but keep in mind they do expire.

PS... I wrote this before reading Revived

Jimmy Butler comes to mind. A ton of guys actually. The odds of Jackson being a complete bust are low. To jump to the bust label any time a player plays bad is lazy and misinformed.

Yep a ton of players come to mind ... Anthony Bennett, Michael Beasley, Adam Morrison, Kwame Brown, Sam Bowie, Darko, Robert Swift, Danny Ferry, Joe Alexander, Alex Len, Todd Fuller, Eddy Curry, Jan Vesley, Jared Jefferies, Shawn Bradley, Johnathan Bender, Michael Olokawandi, Darius Miles

The list of top 10 pick failures goes on and on and on. See in my mind Jackson has next year to improve his shooting stroke because you can't have a SG/SF hitting only .551 on his free throws. A guy with those free throw numbers just can't stick around in the league unless he is a big man who can rebound and defend.

See what I mean ... they just don't stick around ... http://bkref.com/tiny/5Kk1H

[bigfoot]

Alex Len keeps producing in limited minutes - 9 points, 8 rebounds in 19 minutes.

Averages 13 points, 13 rebounds, 1 block on 118 Offensive Rating per 30 minutes.

He's actually been solid overall for about 2 years, but this board will keep insisting he's a bust until he retires after a 10 year career.

Yep ... because teams were beating down the door to sign Len this summer ... can you say qualifying offer. :