PG: Lakers vs. Frank - Remi Keys pg 16

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[mpharris36]

Get Frank a floater it will be unstoppable until he's able to bully his way to the rim.

#1 thing he should be working on this summer...I would kidnap his countryman tony parker and get the parker floater and Frank will be insane!

I figure these two things would elevate his game big time, without even improving anything else:

A floater
Using his hesitation dribble to get into the lane for the bunny jumper

Just those two things alone, along with what should be reliable set 3 point shooting or 3 point shooting off the P&R, and with his defense that's a damn good PG.

If he were to do all that and get stronger and clean up his layups, that's an all star

1) tighten the handle
2) add a floater
3) get physical stronger/more explosive

all those things are very attainable for frank because he has the work ethic to tighten his handle, he already has a soft feathery touch around the basket to obtain a floater, and he has the frame to add weight/muscle that will make him more physical and explosive.

That with his defense, passing ability, and outside shot which he already has...my man he will be so dynamic with that length at the guard position.

[F N 11]

Get Frank a floater it will be unstoppable until he's able to bully his way to the rim.

#1 thing he should be working on this summer...I would kidnap his countryman tony parker and get the parker floater and Frank will be insane!

I figure these two things would elevate his game big time, without even improving anything else:

A floater
Using his hesitation dribble to get into the lane for the bunny jumper

Just those two things alone, along with what should be reliable set 3 point shooting or 3 point shooting off the P&R, and with his defense that's a damn good PG.

If he were to do all that and get stronger and clean up his layups, that's an all star

Who is blocking a floater from that wingspan? He's also sneaky athletic. His floater can be the new sky hook. Unstoppable.

[Dantares]

Frank still isnt very good. but he ok. still need a true starter.

Lol what

His defense has been top notch since day 1 and now he is just starting to scratch the surface of his offensive potential. He has the 2nd highest cumulative plus/minus on an over .500 team.

[DOT]

Over the last 6 games, Frank's shooting splits have gone from 34/25/64 to 36/33/72

So from complete liability offensively to below average rookie efficiency

Frank is a shooter though. He's just has to get comfortable with the NBA.

That was kinda my point
I think he'll hover around 33-34 from 3 this year, cause honestly it's still not a big enough sample size to judge off of
25 percent for 20 games, then he's 7 for 14 last 6
His shot looks good, so it won't be a problem for him as he develops

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[mpharris36]

I have watched every Laker game, and Randle is a bonehead player. He plays very Wild. If he was a starter he would rack up fouls at a high rate. he Avgs 4 fouls a game in ONLY 22 mins. He plays hard, but plays wild and sloppy.

100% agree

he has skills but he has some of the most wild unnecessary drives to the basket which either cause a fast break turnover or an offensive foul. He basically just barrels into the paint sometimes with no plan at all just out of control.

He def has a skill set but not someone I would pay big $$$ too.

[thebuzzardman]

I have watched every Laker game, and Randle is a bonehead player. He plays very Wild. If he was a starter he would rack up fouls at a high rate. he Avgs 4 fouls a game in ONLY 22 mins. He plays hard, but plays wild and sloppy.

100% agree

he has skills but he has some of the most wild unnecessary drives to the basket which either cause a fast break turnover or an offensive foul. He basically just barrels into the paint sometimes with no plan at all just out of control.

He def has a skill set but not someone I would pay big $$$ too.

I'm not sure what $ he would command. I wouldn't want him as a starter but as a rotational PF big.

I guess he's at that stage where he'll get paid like a starter and that's not good for the Knicks.

[IllmaticHandler]

I have watched every Laker game, and Randle is a bonehead player. He plays very Wild. If he was a starter he would rack up fouls at a high rate. he Avgs 4 fouls a game in ONLY 22 mins. He plays hard, but plays wild and sloppy.

100% agree

he has skills but he has some of the most wild unnecessary drives to the basket which either cause a fast break turnover or an offensive foul. He basically just barrels into the paint sometimes with no plan at all just out of control.

He def has a skill set but not someone I would pay big $$$ too.

he has actually cost them games with his style of play. Even Laker fans are mixed bunch with him. I have seen every Laker Game, he is not the player people think he is. There was a reason why Kuzma Started over him when Nance was injured.

[thebuzzardman]

Frank is basically as much of a project at PG as KP was supposed to be at PF, but turned out to be not quite that much of a project but still was.

Translation: Frank is more of a project than KP turned out to be, but all the signs are there that he'll put it together, it'll just take a little longer, go a little slower. He'll be outstanding at 22 years old in year 3.

[Knick4Real]

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[mpharris36]

I have watched every Laker game, and Randle is a bonehead player. He plays very Wild. If he was a starter he would rack up fouls at a high rate. he Avgs 4 fouls a game in ONLY 22 mins. He plays hard, but plays wild and sloppy.

100% agree

he has skills but he has some of the most wild unnecessary drives to the basket which either cause a fast break turnover or an offensive foul. He basically just barrels into the paint sometimes with no plan at all just out of control.

He def has a skill set but not someone I would pay big $$$ too.

I'm not sure what $ he would command. I wouldn't want him as a starter but as a rotational PF big.

I guess he's at that stage where he'll get paid like a starter and that's not good for the Knicks.

he 23 yrs old form high lottery pick...putting up solid #'s...I would think north of 15 million annually to be honest...someone will think he will blossom because he's so young. But he's just not that dude. He's just a more supped up Trevor Booker in my eyes.

[GONYK]

I have watched every Laker game, and Randle is a bonehead player. He plays very Wild. If he was a starter he would rack up fouls at a high rate. he Avgs 4 fouls a game in ONLY 22 mins. He plays hard, but plays wild and sloppy.

And he's probably going to ask for the MAX in the off-season.

[Knick4Real]

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Maybe this is what the discussion outside the locker room between Dolan and Jeannie Buss/Rob Pelinka was about.

[vallen]

theres been 100 scrubs who've had better games against us in the garden. were those flashes or were they flashes in in the pan ? im glad hes at least a contributor, but im not ready to name him the savior. happy to see him have good games, hes a great kid, but again, not convinced hes the future.

Aight, man. When you are ready don’t give us the bull “I needed to see it!”

vallen is a crappy homer. Put him on ignore and your posting experience will go up tenfold.

fixed.

as far as posting goes, there hasnt been a more consistently accurate poster on this board. while i dont like to toot my own horn, becuse that would make me mecca, I will go over my history on real GM.

spent over a year arguing with fans that LBJ wasnt coming.

spent months arguin shump and blkman werent going to amount to much

spent another year arguing we gave up to much for melo.

spent another year arguing CP3 wasnt taking a paycut to come play with melo.

spent an awful amount of time arguing melo was a ballhog, whos iso was going to hurt rather than help

spent a few weeks trying to convince people KP was the right pick

argued that we would be a much more fun team after we traded melo

and here we are now known as a troll, when indeed all ive ever been is right. but i dont need kudos, thats not why i post, i just need to keep it real. maybe someday ill be wrong, and i can eat crow. but i doubt it.

[thebuzzardman]

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Maybe this is what the discussion outside the locker room between Dolan and Jeannie Buss/Rob Pelinka was about.

I think the conversation amongst that crowd was:

"Phil's a dick."
"Yes"
"I concur"

With anyone saying any of the 3 parts.

[mpharris36]

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Maybe this is what the discussion outside the locker room between Dolan and Jeannie Buss/Rob Pelinka was about.

dolan and jeannie buss aren't talking trade....

[thebuzzardman]

Aight, man. When you are ready don’t give us the bull “I needed to see it!”

vallen is a crappy homer. Put him on ignore and your posting experience will go up tenfold.

fixed.

as far as posting goes, there hasnt been a more consistently accurate poster on this board. while i dont like to toot my own horn, becuse that would make me mecca, I will go over my history on real GM.

spent over a year arguing with fans that LBJ wasnt coming.

spent months arguin shump and blkman werent going to amount to much

spent another year arguing we gave up to much for melo.

spent another year arguing CP3 wasnt taking a paycut to come play with melo.

spent an awful amount of time arguing melo was a ballhog, whos iso was going to hurt rather than help

spent a few weeks trying to convince people KP was the right pick

argued that we would be a much more fun team after we traded melo

and here we are now known as a troll, when indeed all ive ever been is right. but i dont need kudos, thats not why i post, i just need to keep it real. maybe someday ill be wrong, and i can eat crow. but i doubt it.

Well, lets hope you are dead wrong on Frank. I think he's getting graded on a curve in some ways and people are hyping when he just looks competent, but on the other hand, for a 19 year old rookie to play mostly poised and mistake free at PG, even in a low risk style, while being NBA 6'6" and playing at the very least plus defense at PG with the ability to switch seamlessly to 2's and 3's is pretty nice.

I think we also have to acknowledge that he was drafted as a bit of a project, not unlike KP. But I think it's turned out that Frank is every bit the project he was supposed to be, while KP showed more, relative to his position, earlier, and much earlier than expected

[Knicksfan20]

You guys have no idea how good Jack is going to be for Frank. He seems like a great mentor. We are lucky we have somebody like Jack to Help Frank.

[Deeeez Knicks]

So, what would it take for the Knicks to get Julius Randle from the Lakers, and would we want to, based on his ability but also that the Knicks would have to resign him.

KOQ and Chicago's 2nd?

WHG and Chicago's 2nd?

Knicks have a center glut, Lakers have a PG glut. I mean, it's not like the Lakers are dying for a C, but how long before Broke Lopez goes down with an injury, plus I know they have a young C to develop, but either of those guys would give them someone who would have some use for a few years.

I guess they could do better than that.

I'll have to rewatch the game - how is Randle on defense?

I just know that after a SF with athleticism and legit offensive skill, the Knicks next need is a young PF with some bounce who can defend and isn't a stiff on offense. I know Randle's shot isn't that great, but he'd be good next to KP where KP slides to C and Randle at PF. Unless his defense is bad. I've never thought it was, but looking for some input from guys who watch more Lakers games than me.

Randle would fit, but don’t think he is one of our bigger needs and I would not want to pay him a big contract. It would almost compound our problem having too many bigs. We really need a good wing player and more young guards/wings. If we lock up Randle long term with a big contract, it would just leave less money to add quality wings/guards

In a vacuum where the Knicks didn't have to worry about his $ impacting the future, I guess he'd be good - if they dealt a big to get him. I don't see him as adding to a "big man glut" because the Knicks issues isn't too many bigs, but specifically too many bigs that are Centers and Centers only - Kanter, WHG, KOQ and Noah. None of those guys can play PF, at ALL. Now, that's fine, because KP can, but what the Knicks need is a PF off the bench who truly is a PF, who can play some defense, has some real height, and isn't garbage on offense. Look what the Knicks have to do if KP is out with injury, or who comes off the bench for him - LFT.

Backup PF is clearly a need.

The Knick obvious need is a SF. A playmaking SF is the obvious first choice, but picking 8-10, that chances of a playmaking SF being available are pretty slim. So, from there I move onto a SF who can defend, with wingspan, who can reliable hit outside shots.
I assume this is the target in the draft, so that's why I considered Randle as a potential backup PF target, but then Randle , with his contract coming up has to be viewed as a "last piece" because the Knicks would cap out and be over to resign him if they traded for him, and even if the Knicks land a quality SF in the draft, they still aren't that player and Randle away from being a complete team.

PF is a need, but I think I would prefer a PF/SF more then a PF/C if we are investing big…we have guys like that in Beasley and LT, but we could def use an upgrade over them. Not that we can get him, but someone like Kuzma would be perfect and I would prefer someone like that over a PF/C like Randle. I’d look to pay for a player like that if we are paying big and maybe just add another PF for cheap if needed.

Else, true PF’s are a dying breed anyway or they end up playing C like Randle and even KP. Teams def need players like that, but we already have one of the best players in the league at that position. True, we are kinda screwed when he is out but I don’t know if there is much we can do to fix that at this time. KP just brings so much production that can’t be replaced easily.

[F N 11]

You guys have no idea how good Jack is going to be for Frank. He seems like a great mentor. We are lucky we have somebody like Jack to Help Frank.

Jack has been amazing. However I want him to do it off the bench. He can also be more aggressive as a scorer off the bench.