thebuzzardman wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:Garbagelo wrote:It's not as bad as people are making this out to be.
There is a case to be heard for both sides.
Please read up on the other side.
No. These are issues where the other side is dependent on common sense actions, i.e. you have to TRUST the other side to do the right thing.
But you give an inch and giant companies will take a mile. It could be immediately or it could be incrementally over the years.
And then you wake up one day and wonder why the web eco-system got funneled only through the giant platforms and independent sites everywhere died off as their traffic trickled to a slow death.
Sorry, but good faith in the actions of big corporations doesn't cut it. It is black and white because of that.
I've read enough Libertarian dogma over the years about how the market and large companies will self regulate.
Anyone alive in 2007 with half a brain answer me this question: How did that work out?
And even if you come back with a tried and true conservative canard that "the government encouraged this bad lending", I'll come back with "If the market and self regulation is so awesome, why didn't it stop the government's truly sh*tty idea". Something like the banks saying "Hey, the government is letting us do this thing, but it will really end badly and it's really dumb and we shouldn't."
Wait, the market is only a force for good and self correcting under very certain circumstances you might say? Sounds like an argument for some kind of regulation.
Libertarianism as it is espoused by the average wanker is fueled by Pony Express logic with dreams of being gentlemen ranchers from a bygone era.
Government is only as evil as you allow it to be while the vestiges of democracy remain. Let it go too far away from the principles of true representation and you're hosed. Many so-called libertarians have blithely sided with proto-fascists because it sync'd up with their deregulatory free-trade fantasies.
Real libertarianism in the present day needs to focus on protecting the individual and their rights, but often it skews completely into the other direction, sometimes complicitly and often unwittingly.
As an aside, read the latest New Yorker article on Estonia. I'm was interested in that country for some time now, but I'll be following it closer. They are a tiny population so they have a whole other kettle of fish, but their concept of governance and process is fascinating.