BREAKING: FCC votes in favor of Net Neutrality repeal

[Jalen Bluntson]

It's not as bad as people are making this out to be.

There is a case to be heard for both sides.

Please read up on the other side.

I'm lazy. Cliff notes on the other side? LOL I want to know who wants it undone and why.

[omerome]

There is no good reasoning as to why this repeal makes sense unless you're in bed with the ISP companies.

[bigtimeRC3]

nice!

[DrKnick]

Good times are rolling in!

[Clyde_Style]

Interesting News.

Disney is acquiring Fox

That means the Pravda arm of the WH is finished because Disney is not about to facilitate that booolchit. Polish up your resume Sean Hannity you dipchit.

It also means there is a new even bigger behemoth on the scene that will compete with big streaming services like Netflix

Netflix supports Net Neutrality as they are a massive eater of bandwidth every night at prime time and they don't want their customers penalized with higher costs.

While Disney will compete with Netflix they may also take a similar stance.

[Deeeez Knicks]

Interesting News.

Disney is acquiring Fox

That means the Pravda arm of the WH is finished because Disney is not about to facilitate that booolchit. Polish up your resume Sean Hannity you dipchit.

It also means there is a new even bigger behemoth on the scene that will compete with big streaming services like Netflix

Netflix supports Net Neutrality as they are a massive eater of bandwidth every night at prime time and they don't want their customers penalized with higher costs.

While Disney will compete with Netflix they may also take a similar stance.

Unfortunatley fox news is not part of that acquisition

[KnickXxxx]

Disney buying Fox is a big shocker for me.

That’s a move that will have an effect on America in many ways.

Is Fox News going to drop the conservative viewpoint? They are the only ones in town there that do it. That’s their bread and butter for why they are so profitable but it doesn’t jive with Disney’s liberal PC approach.

[Clyde_Style]

Interesting News.

Disney is acquiring Fox

That means the Pravda arm of the WH is finished because Disney is not about to facilitate that booolchit. Polish up your resume Sean Hannity you dipchit.

It also means there is a new even bigger behemoth on the scene that will compete with big streaming services like Netflix

Netflix supports Net Neutrality as they are a massive eater of bandwidth every night at prime time and they don't want their customers penalized with higher costs.

While Disney will compete with Netflix they may also take a similar stance.

Unfortunatley fox news is not part of that acquisition

[HarthorneWingo]

More taking from the poor and middle class and giving to the rich.

November, 2018 can't come soon enough.

[HarthorneWingo]

It's not as bad as people are making this out to be.

There is a case to be heard for both sides.

Please read up on the other side.

I'm lazy. Cliff notes on the other side? LOL I want to know who wants it undone and why.

Here's the other side's argument:

Spoiler:

[2010]

Its over. This is just the fluff to make it look like it wont stand. In the end it will stand. I bet anything on that.

From what I've gathered, most people actually appear to be against it from all sides. I wouldn't be surprised if in the end it is returned and these 3 jackasses end up having their wishes overturned. Definitely going to be something to follow through the courts because law firms are going to be all over this.

People can fight, but if people really think this happening because Ajit Pai is acting on his own they need to wake up. He is just the face of it to take the blame. There is 100% people with they own private interests that are very powerful as well that want this to happen for various reasons that will benefit them that he is acting for. Ajit Pai is the patsy for this. If people are not taking note, Americans are not really gaining rights. THEY ARE LOSING them at a rate faster than any generation before.

Facto

[Riot Randolph]

It's not as bad as people are making this out to be.

There is a case to be heard for both sides.

Please read up on the other side.

I'm lazy. Cliff notes on the other side? LOL I want to know who wants it undone and why.

hes talking out of his ass...

[stuporman]

It's not as bad as people are making this out to be.

There is a case to be heard for both sides.

Please read up on the other side.

I'm lazy. Cliff notes on the other side? LOL I want to know who wants it undone and why.

Here's the cliff notes:

The corps that control the ISPs want to be able to charge extra for everything(like airlines or cable companies) and decide which websites get a "fast lane", a "slow lane" or "no lane" at all at their discretion(even for ideological reasons).

So let's say your ISP doesn't want you to read RealGM because this website won't pay them extra to let people access it or they hate sports because reasons. Then you won't get to come here unless you change your ISP but if you live in an area that doesn't have any other option then you are SOL, you don't get access to it and they get to decide this for any and every website for any and every reason.

Neutrality meant they had no legal right to restrict where customers/hosts/websites used their bandwidth for traffic, now they will get to mess with the spigot of the bandwidth in any way they want.

[Boarder Patrol]

Damn, how are we ever going to go back to the internet of pre-2015? Did it even exist back then?

[ravinaziankid]

Damn, how are we ever going to go back to the internet of pre-2015? Did it even exist back then?

Last time I checked pre 2015 all the way back to when the internet was just getting popular, I was never blocked or restricted from going on sites or charged by my cable provider to access parts of the internet they think I should be charged to access. Not sure if you were joking though.

[Garbagelo]

I just feel this whole argument for net neutrality has been blown out of proportion by places like Reddit and Facebook. It is a battle between giant corporations fighting over money while we the little guys are just being used a pawns in this never ending battle. Nothing is going to change, just like before 2015. Government is stepping in to volunteer to get their hands off of a private sector and people are complaining? Jesus.

Here watch this video, pretty much sums up everything I feel.

Watch on YouTube

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[Boarder Patrol]

Damn, how are we ever going to go back to the internet of pre-2015? Did it even exist back then?

Last time I checked pre 2015 all the way back to when the internet was just getting popular, I was never blocked or restricted from going on sites or charged by my cable provider to access parts of the internet they think I should be charged to access. Not sure if you were joking though.

That's my point

[omerome]

Damn, how are we ever going to go back to the internet of pre-2015? Did it even exist back then?

You mean the time when ISPs were pulling dirty tactics like these:

From 2007-2009, AT&T forced Apple to block Skype and other competing VOIP phone services on the iPhone. The wireless provider wanted to prevent iPhone users from using any application that would allow them to make calls on such “over-the-top” voice services. The Google Voice app received similar treatment from carriers like AT&T when it came on the scene in 2009.

In 2010, Windstream Communications, a DSL provider with more than 1 million customers, copped to hijacking user-search queries made using the Google toolbar within Firefox. Users who believed they had set the browser to the search engine of their choice were redirected to Windstream’s own search portal and results.

In 2011, MetroPCS, at the time one of the top five U.S. wireless carriers, announced plans to block streaming video over its 4G network from all sources except YouTube. MetroPCS then threw its weight behind Verizon’s court challenge against the FCC’s Open Internet Order, hoping that rejection of the agency’s authority would allow it to continue its anti-consumer practices.

From 2011-2013, AT&T, Sprint and Verizon blocked Google Wallet, a mobile payment system that competed with a similar service called Isis, which all three companies had a stake in developing.

Source: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/timothy-karr/net-blocking-a-problem-in_b_5695997.html

Or how about when the FCC put a stop to Comcast secretly degrading peer-to-peer applications?

Last year, some broadband subscribers complained to the FCC that Comcast was
blocking and delaying their Internet traffic. Our investigation, and the findings of several
widely respected engineers, confirmed the complaints. Comcast was delaying
subscribers’ downloads and blocking their uploads. It was doing so 24/7, regardless of
the amount of congestion on the network or how small the file might be. Even worse,
Comcast was hiding that fact by making effected users think there was a problem with
their Internet connection or the application.

Source: https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-284286A2.pdf

Back in 2010, the FCC took a step to preserve the internet a free platform for "innovation, investment, job creation, economic growth, competition, and free expression." They believed in three rules:

Transparency. Fixed and mobile broadband providers must disclose the network
management practices, performance characteristics, and terms and conditions of their
broadband services;

No blocking. Fixed broadband providers may not block lawful content, applications,
services, or non-harmful devices; mobile broadband providers may not block lawful
websites, or block applications that compete with their voice or video telephony
services; and

No unreasonable discrimination. Fixed broadband providers may not unreasonably
discriminate in transmitting lawful network traffic

Source: https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-10-201A1_Rcd.pdf

They did this in part because ISPs like Verizon were constantly taking them to court as they wanted more control on how to give access to their customers. This why Net Neutrality going away is a BAD thing because now we're likely to see these same problems come back once again since that the repeal would make them legal.

Many people do not even have a choice of an ISP because of limited options in their area. So if Comcast, for example, wants to create a "pay lane" where you have to pay extra for more bandwidth and you don't, well then, you're SOL.

[aq_ua]

What's going to replace the internet now?

[Knicksfan20]

What does this mean?