Markelle Fultz Discussion III: For Fultz and going forward (see 2017 draft thread for trade discussion)

bball4life · Post #501 » by **bball4life** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:26 pm

MR28 wrote:Did Hayward have a similar injury to Ronald Darby? Darby wound up being out for 2 months.

No. Darby had a dislocated ankle. Hayward's foot was on backwards.

agiaco · Post #502 » by **agiaco** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:29 pm

Simmons25 wrote:Damn. Weren't there people in here wanting us to take Josh Jackson. That would have been a disaster.

LloydFree in particular, who would probably still find a way to justify it over Fultz.

LloydFree · Post #503 » by **LloydFree** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:45 pm

agiaco wrote:
Simmons25 wrote:Damn. Weren't there people in here wanting us to take Josh Jackson. That would have been a disaster.

LloydFree in particular, who would probably still find a way to justify it over Fultz.

Actually it is pretty easy to justify. We'd have a superior talent who also isnt scared to play basketball. And we'd still have two future unprotected picks (from two of the worst teams in the league) coming to us.

sixerswillrule · Post #504 » by **sixerswillrule** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:03 pm

JojoSlimbiid wrote:
JojoSlimbiid wrote:

Read on Twitter

High level athleticism at work for the only rookie that I was told by realgm experts was going to be a net positive his first year.

We sure he doesn't have scapular muscle imbalance? Cause something looks wrong with him

Follows up my post with a mind blowing performance. 2 pts, 0-7, a whopping 0% Fg percentage for my mathematically challenged friends, 1 rebound in 22 minutes. Should probably run the offense through him though seems like a recipe for success

Then he can fulfill his destiny of becoming a bigger Marcus Smart.

cool93 · Post #505 » by **cool93** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:54 pm

LloydFree wrote:
agiaco wrote:
Simmons25 wrote:Damn. Weren't there people in here wanting us to take Josh Jackson. That would have been a disaster.

LloydFree in particular, who would probably still find a way to justify it over Fultz.

Actually it is pretty easy to justify. We'd have a superior talent who also isnt scared to play. And we'd still have two future unprotected picks from two of the worst teams in the league coming to us.

Come on, man. Saying that Fultz is scared to play is just stupid, I'm not justifying this situation, it's ugly, but we simply don't know the truth so can't really judge it.

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BigSleep333 · Post #506 » by **BigSleep333** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:59 pm

so is he at least practicing when he has no pain? if not, this shoulder injury thing is 100% a cover-up for his horrible shooting

cksdayoff · Post #507 » by **cksdayoff** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:32 pm

one of the things i didn't like about josh jackson besides his overrated defense was he just looked dumb. and judging by his off the court issues, i don't think i'm that far off in my assessment. the hitch in his shot ruins any chance of him ever becoming an average shooter imo. it's just ugly. he's pretty agile and quick, and i like his motor

Negrodamus · Post #508 » by **Negrodamus** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:44 pm

BigSleep333 wrote:so is he at least practicing when he has no pain? if not, this shoulder injury thing is 100% a cover-up for his horrible shooting

You must be 3 weeks pain free and a closed door workout evaluation before you can practice with the team behind closed doors. Then you must get back into shape for an additional 3 weeks with no public appearance. Only until then are you allowed to practice in front of the media (jump shot evaluation permitting).

James40 · Post #509 » by **James40** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:04 pm

LloydFree wrote:
agiaco wrote:
Simmons25 wrote:Damn. Weren't there people in here wanting us to take Josh Jackson. That would have been a disaster.

LloydFree in particular, who would probably still find a way to justify it over Fultz.

Actually it is pretty easy to justify. We'd have a superior talent who also isnt scared to play basketball. And we'd still have two future unprotected picks (from two of the worst teams in the league) coming to us.

Probably because I enjoy someone going against the grain of the forum, keep up the good work.

and yes, until Fultz proves it on the court, you are basically correct. Why folks get upset by is beyond me.

PLO · Post #510 » by **PLO** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:11 pm

BigSleep333 wrote:so is he at least practicing when he has no pain? if not, this shoulder injury thing is 100% a cover-up for his horrible shooting

Sounds like a fair-minded conclusion based on solid medical data.

cool93 · Post #511 » by **cool93** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:45 pm

James40 wrote:
LloydFree wrote:
agiaco wrote:
LloydFree in particular, who would probably still find a way to justify it over Fultz.

Actually it is pretty easy to justify. We'd have a superior talent who also isnt scared to play basketball. And we'd still have two future unprotected picks (from two of the worst teams in the league) coming to us.

Probably because I enjoy someone going against the grain of the forum, keep up the good work.

and yes, until Fultz proves it on the court, you are basically correct. Why folks get upset by is beyond me.

Wrong. Until Fultz is on the flour no one is correct. We simply don't have enough info.

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BigSleep333 · Post #512 » by **BigSleep333** » Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:08 am

PLO wrote:
BigSleep333 wrote:so is he at least practicing when he has no pain? if not, this shoulder injury thing is 100% a cover-up for his horrible shooting

Sounds like a fair-minded conclusion based on solid medical data.

what other conclusion you have if hes not practicing publicly while having no pain?

PLO · Post #513 » by **PLO** » Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:52 am

BigSleep333 wrote:
PLO wrote:
BigSleep333 wrote:so is he at least practicing when he has no pain? if not, this shoulder injury thing is 100% a cover-up for his horrible shooting

Sounds like a fair-minded conclusion based on solid medical data.

what other conclusion you have if hes not practicing publicly while having no pain?

He wasn't a "horrible" shooter in college and how many open practices do NBA teams have anyway? You might as well jump to the conclusion James Harden will be a horrible shooter from now on because the Rockets don't have any open practices this week. Just because someone isn't practicing in public means nothing. As far as NBA-conclusion-jumping this is up there wih Kyrie's claim that the Earth is flat because it looks that way. Absurd.

BigSleep333 · Post #514 » by **BigSleep333** » Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:16 am

PLO wrote:
BigSleep333 wrote:
PLO wrote:
Sounds like a fair-minded conclusion based on solid medical data.

what other conclusion you have if hes not practicing publicly while having no pain?

He wasn't a "horrible" shooter in college and how many open practices do NBA teams have anyway? You might as well jump to the conclusion James Harden will be a horrible shooter from now on because the Rockets don't have any open practices this week. Just because someone isn't practicing in public means nothing. As far as NBA-conclusion-jumping this is up there wih Kyrie's claim that the Earth is flat because it looks that way. Absurd.

means nothing if there is no open practice. does mean a lot if fultz is the only one whos not out there when others are. since i dont know it, i asked a question if hes practicing. if he is not, my conclusion is most likely the truth. if you dont agree, i think you have more in common with kyrie than me.

PLO · Post #515 » by **PLO** » Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:34 am

BigSleep333 wrote:
PLO wrote:
BigSleep333 wrote:
what other conclusion you have if hes not practicing publicly while having no pain?

He wasn't a "horrible" shooter in college and how many open practices do NBA teams have anyway? You might as well jump to the conclusion James Harden will be a horrible shooter from now on because the Rockets don't have any open practices this week. Just because someone isn't practicing in public means nothing. As far as NBA-conclusion-jumping this is up there wih Kyrie's claim that the Earth is flat because it looks that way. Absurd.

means nothing if there is no open practice. does mean a lot if fultz is the only one whos not out there when others are. since i dont know it, i asked a question if hes practicing. if he is not, my conclusion is most likely the truth. if you dont agree, i think you have more in common with kyrie than me.

Your leaps of logic would do a four year old proud.

JojoSlimbiid · Post #516 » by **JojoSlimbiid** » Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:36 am

Fultz isn't even in Philly right now. You wouldn't know it even if practice was open.

They booked another $500-1000 dollar flight to Kentucky to keep up the ruse. Duh

BigSleep333 · Post #517 » by **BigSleep333** » Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:49 am

PLO wrote:
BigSleep333 wrote:
PLO wrote:
He wasn't a "horrible" shooter in college and how many open practices do NBA teams have anyway? You might as well jump to the conclusion James Harden will be a horrible shooter from now on because the Rockets don't have any open practices this week. Just because someone isn't practicing in public means nothing. As far as NBA-conclusion-jumping this is up there wih Kyrie's claim that the Earth is flat because it looks that way. Absurd.

means nothing if there is no open practice. does mean a lot if fultz is the only one whos not out there when others are. since i dont know it, i asked a question if hes practicing. if he is not, my conclusion is most likely the truth. if you dont agree, i think you have more in common with kyrie than me.

Your leaps of logic would do a four year old proud.

you are delusional if you think everything is fine if fultz is completely healthy and is not practicing with the team. delusional or naive like a 4 year old, hmm..

PhilasFinest · Post #518 » by **PhilasFinest** » Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:51 am

JojoSlimbiid wrote:Fultz isn't even in Philly right now. You wouldn't know it even if practice was open.

They booked another $500-1000 dollar flight to Kentucky to keep up the ruse. Duh

Does anyone know why he’s going back to Kentucky so much? Is it part of his rehab?

Literally seems like everyday on IG he puts up a boomerang with Lexington Kentucky tagged in it.

BigSleep333 · Post #519 » by **BigSleep333** » Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:52 am

JojoSlimbiid wrote:Fultz isn't even in Philly right now. You wouldn't know it even if practice was open.

They booked another $500-1000 dollar flight to Kentucky to keep up the ruse. Duh

lmao. healthy and right back in kentucky? did they tell why?

Simmons25 · Post #520 » by **Simmons25** » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:01 am

James40 wrote:
LloydFree wrote:
agiaco wrote:
LloydFree in particular, who would probably still find a way to justify it over Fultz.

Actually it is pretty easy to justify. We'd have a superior talent who also isnt scared to play basketball. And we'd still have two future unprotected picks (from two of the worst teams in the league) coming to us.

Probably because I enjoy someone going against the grain of the forum, keep up the good work.

and yes, until Fultz proves it on the court, you are basically correct. Why folks get upset by is beyond me.

Why do folks get upset? because it is not "basically correct" at all. If Fultz was playing 30 games and was playing like trash like say Lonzo then yes... it would be "basically correct" and then you can go for your life... tell everyone "I told you so".

Doing it whilst Fultz is physically unable to shoot and play to his potential because of injury, doesn't make anything correct. It makes it annoying to listen to. It's the basketball equivalent of standing in front of a murderer behind bars and telling them how soft they are and how you would whoop their ass.

Gutless and easy to do when you know they can't reach you to prove you wrong.