Markelle Fultz Discussion III: For Fultz and going forward (see 2017 draft thread for trade discussion)

[XDevilBoiX]

Does anyone know why he’s going back to Kentucky so much? Is it part of his rehab?

Literally seems like everyday on IG he puts up a boomerang with Lexington Kentucky tagged in it.

I am thinking they wanna watch how he is shooting there to make sure he’s all pain free and run some test to make sure it’s completely gone. No other reason for him to be back there at all now that he is pain free.

[BigSleep333]

Actually it is pretty easy to justify. We'd have a superior talent who also isnt scared to play basketball. And we'd still have two future unprotected picks (from two of the worst teams in the league) coming to us.

Probably because I enjoy someone going against the grain of the forum, keep up the good work.

and yes, until Fultz proves it on the court, you are basically correct. Why folks get upset by is beyond me.

Why do folks get upset? because it is not "basically correct" at all. If Fultz was playing 30 games and was playing like trash like say Lonzo then yes... it would be "basically correct" and then you can go for your life... tell everyone "I told you so".

Doing it whilst Fultz is physically unable to shoot and play to his potential because of injury, doesn't make anything correct. It makes it annoying to listen to. It's the basketball equivalent of standing in front of a murderer behind bars and telling them how soft they are and how you would whoop their ass.

Gutless and easy to do when you know they can't reach you to prove you wrong.

BC told the media one week ago fultz is painfree, yet he is not with the team practicing. you cant understand why people get upset or start to think this is fishy? especially with the background of chosen at #1 and the team traded a lot for it? cant really understand why anybody could not be concerned with this clownshow

[LongLiveHinkie]

He needs to get himself back to where he was physically and mentally before all this stuff happened. It takes time. Not sure why people still can't grasp this. He'll go when he's ready.

[BigSleep333]

He needs to get himself back to where he was physically and mentally before all this stuff happened. It takes time. Not sure why people still can't grasp this. He'll go when he's ready.

and he cant do this in philly? the hell, i dont wanna be right in this situation, but everything in this case screams cover-up to me. i hope he shoots it with his college-form when he comes back, but even then i was skeptical with his range and ft-shooting.

[JojoSlimbiid]

Fultz isn't even in Philly right now. You wouldn't know it even if practice was open.

They booked another $500-1000 dollar flight to Kentucky to keep up the ruse. Duh

lmao. healthy and right back in kentucky? did they tell why?

Uh I don't know...the team didn't announce it or anything. I only know cause people who follow his snapchat update me on it. If I were to guess he's probably there for the ESPN feature tomorrow but I don't really know.

[LongLiveHinkie]

He needs to get himself back to where he was physically and mentally before all this stuff happened. It takes time. Not sure why people still can't grasp this. He'll go when he's ready.

and he cant do this in philly? the hell, i dont wanna be right in this situation, but everything in this case screams cover-up to me. i hope he shoots it with his college-form when he comes back, but even then i was skeptical with his range and ft-shooting.

Cover up for what? It doesn't even make any sense.

[BigSleep333]

He needs to get himself back to where he was physically and mentally before all this stuff happened. It takes time. Not sure why people still can't grasp this. He'll go when he's ready.

and he cant do this in philly? the hell, i dont wanna be right in this situation, but everything in this case screams cover-up to me. i hope he shoots it with his college-form when he comes back, but even then i was skeptical with his range and ft-shooting.

Cover up for what? It doesn't even make any sense.

him shooting like shaq? a) hes embarrassed shootin like that while picked at #1 and b) BC for not lookin like the biggest fool. so they gave him time to work on his J behind closed doors. what doesnt make any sense is, is him not practicing with the team, despite bein healthy.

[LloydFree]

and he cant do this in philly? the hell, i dont wanna be right in this situation, but everything in this case screams cover-up to me. i hope he shoots it with his college-form when he comes back, but even then i was skeptical with his range and ft-shooting.

Cover up for what? It doesn't even make any sense.

him shooting like shaq? a) hes embarrassed shootin like that while picked at #1 and b) BC for not lookin like the biggest fool. so they gave him time to work on his J behind closed doors. what doesnt make any sense is, is him not practicing with the team, despite bein healthy.

The 1st part is exactly why you haven't seen him, IMO.

As far as not practicing with the team, I believe it is to keep the media from questioning him on the situation. Team policy: They don't make players available to the media who aren't practicing. If he's in Philadelphia practicing, the local media can run wild with this. He's in Kentucky, likely working with a shooting coach until he makes himself presentable.

[LongLiveHinkie]

and he cant do this in philly? the hell, i dont wanna be right in this situation, but everything in this case screams cover-up to me. i hope he shoots it with his college-form when he comes back, but even then i was skeptical with his range and ft-shooting.

Cover up for what? It doesn't even make any sense.

him shooting like shaq? a) hes embarrassed shootin like that while picked at #1 and b) BC for not lookin like the biggest fool. so they gave him time to work on his J behind closed doors. what doesnt make any sense is, is him not practicing with the team, despite bein healthy.

There's nothing to cover up, everyone already knew he was shooting weird.

[BigSleep333]

Cover up for what? It doesn't even make any sense.

him shooting like shaq? a) hes embarrassed shootin like that while picked at #1 and b) BC for not lookin like the biggest fool. so they gave him time to work on his J behind closed doors. what doesnt make any sense is, is him not practicing with the team, despite bein healthy.

The 1st part is exactly why you haven't seen him.

As far as not practicing with the team, I believe it is to keep the media from questioning him on the situation. Team policy: They don't make players available to the media who aren't practicing. If he's in Philadelphia practicing, the local media can run wild with this. He's in Kentucky, likely working with a shooting coach until he's presentable.

and thats again absolutely a clear indication that there was no injury at all.

[BigSleep333]

Cover up for what? It doesn't even make any sense.

him shooting like shaq? a) hes embarrassed shootin like that while picked at #1 and b) BC for not lookin like the biggest fool. so they gave him time to work on his J behind closed doors. what doesnt make any sense is, is him not practicing with the team, despite bein healthy.

There's nothing to cover up, everyone already knew he was shooting weird.

its about the reason why he was shootin like that. if it would be an injury everybody is and should be like: "ok, give him time to heal, everything is fine when he comes back". if his shaq-shot is not injury-related you hear bust the second it is announced, and thats not good for either fultz nor BC.

[LongLiveHinkie]

him shooting like shaq? a) hes embarrassed shootin like that while picked at #1 and b) BC for not lookin like the biggest fool. so they gave him time to work on his J behind closed doors. what doesnt make any sense is, is him not practicing with the team, despite bein healthy.

There's nothing to cover up, everyone already knew he was shooting weird.

its about the reason why he was shootin like that. if it would be an injury everybody is and should be like: "ok, give hime time to heal, everything is fine when he comes back". if his shaq-shot is not injury-related you hear bust the second it is announced, and thats not good for either fultz nor BC.

If it shot wasn't injury related then he would just go back to shooting normally again.

And Colangelo doesn't care what any people on social media think about Fultz or the trade.

[BigSleep333]

There's nothing to cover up, everyone already knew he was shooting weird.

its about the reason why he was shootin like that. if it would be an injury everybody is and should be like: "ok, give hime time to heal, everything is fine when he comes back". if his shaq-shot is not injury-related you hear bust the second it is announced, and thats not good for either fultz nor BC.

If it shot wasn't injury related then he would just go back to shooting normally again.

And Colangelo doesn't care what any people on social media think about Fultz or the trade.

then why isnt he in philly shooting normally? he is healthy. it was announced last week.

[LongLiveHinkie]

its about the reason why he was shootin like that. if it would be an injury everybody is and should be like: "ok, give hime time to heal, everything is fine when he comes back". if his shaq-shot is not injury-related you hear bust the second it is announced, and thats not good for either fultz nor BC.

If it shot wasn't injury related then he would just go back to shooting normally again.

And Colangelo doesn't care what any people on social media think about Fultz or the trade.

then why isnt he in philly shooting normally? he is healthy. it was announced last week.

Likely all part of the rehab plan. The doctor prescribes a plan and they follow it. Could be working on conditioning or could be shooting and we don't know he's shooting.

[BigSleep333]

If it shot wasn't injury related then he would just go back to shooting normally again.

And Colangelo doesn't care what any people on social media think about Fultz or the trade.

then why isnt he in philly shooting normally? he is healthy. it was announced last week.

Likely all part of the rehab plan. The doctor prescribes a plan and they follow it. Could be working on conditioning or could be shooting and we don't know he's shooting.

conditioning: they always told us he has no problems except lifting his arms above his head. theres no excuse to be out of shape.

shooting: and you dont ask yourself, why he is shooting behind closed doors? keith pompey posted videos from the training facility today with embiid and others messing around. why is fultz still flying to **** kentucky?

[LongLiveHinkie]

then why isnt he in philly shooting normally? he is healthy. it was announced last week.

Likely all part of the rehab plan. The doctor prescribes a plan and they follow it. Could be working on conditioning or could be shooting and we don't know he's shooting.

conditioning: they always told us he has no problems except lifting his arms above his head. theres no excuse to be out of shape.

shooting: and you dont ask yourself, why he is shooting behind closed doors? keith pompey posted videos from the training facility today with embiid and others messing around. why is fultz still flying to **** kentucky?

Need to rebuild strength in the shoulder since he's done no exercises on it. Likely has been doing muscle strengthening exercises and gradually ramping up shooting bit by bit to where he's game ready to shoulder a full load. No pun intended.

He's not practicing so the media isn't going to see him shoot. They only get to see practices. He flew to Kentucky a week or two ago or whenever it was. That was the specialist he saw. Patients always return for follow-up appointments to see the specialists and get examined and rehab. It's routine.

[Sasashi]

Damn. Weren't there people in here wanting us to take Josh Jackson. That would have been a disaster.

LloydFree in particular, who would probably still find a way to justify it over Fultz.

no you have to separate ball/jackson from fultz.....

what was said pre-draft was that ball/jackson were the can't miss superstars.

Ask him if he still feels that way without relating it to fultz. If you relate it to fultz, he will just deflect. Trading for fultz could be a big success/failure...we simply do not know this yet. But ask about ball/jackson and his updated evaluation , and I guarantee you no answer will come back.

[Simmons25]

Probably because I enjoy someone going against the grain of the forum, keep up the good work.

and yes, until Fultz proves it on the court, you are basically correct. Why folks get upset by is beyond me.

Why do folks get upset? because it is not "basically correct" at all. If Fultz was playing 30 games and was playing like trash like say Lonzo then yes... it would be "basically correct" and then you can go for your life... tell everyone "I told you so".

Doing it whilst Fultz is physically unable to shoot and play to his potential because of injury, doesn't make anything correct. It makes it annoying to listen to. It's the basketball equivalent of standing in front of a murderer behind bars and telling them how soft they are and how you would whoop their ass.

Gutless and easy to do when you know they can't reach you to prove you wrong.

BC told the media one week ago fultz is painfree, yet he is not with the team practicing. you cant understand why people get upset or start to think this is fishy? especially with the background of chosen at #1 and the team traded a lot for it? cant really understand why anybody could not be concerned with this clownshow

because I am going through something similar to Fultz and I "get it". Just because you are "pain free" doesn't mean you are ready to go. As my physio tells me... the pain in the last thing to happen and the first thing to disappear... it doesn't mean the issue has completely disappeared though and you are only 1 training session away from having the inflammation come back and go back to square one.

Now they've fixed the underlying issue "The shoulder imbalance"... but I see absolutely no problem with taking a cautious approach to his ongoing rehab and comeback. There is absolutely nothing to be gained by fans getting upset because he didn't jump immediately off the plane and start throwing up shots in the gym.

So yeah I am not concerned with the "clown show" yet and I really don't understand people's impatience. Seems to me they think the Fultz has just lied and made things up the whole way along... which is absolute rubbish and disgusting to even suggest. Then again people said the same things about Simmons last year. I find it pathetic.

[Ryuzaki]

I love Markelle Fultz

[Ettorefm]

so is he at least practicing when he has no pain? if not, this shoulder injury thing is 100% a cover-up for his horrible shooting

Sounds like a fair-minded conclusion based on solid medical data.

what other conclusion you have if hes not practicing publicly while having no pain?

None. That's what people should understand. Just because you don't have sufficient evidence to get to a solid conclusion, doesn't mean you're justified in simply making s*** up.

I don't know why Westbrook is playing bad, so I'll just make up that he hates Paul george. What other conclusion you have?