Markelle Fultz Discussion III: For Fultz and going forward (see 2017 draft thread for trade discussion)

[Kolkmania]

Sounds like a fair-minded conclusion based on solid medical data.

what other conclusion you have if hes not practicing publicly while having no pain?

None. That's what people should understand. Just because you don't have sufficient evidence to get to a solid conclusion, doesn't mean you're justified in simply making s*** up.

I don't know why Westbrook is playing bad, so I'll just make up that he hates Paul george. What other conclusion you have?

He's currently receiving physiotherapy treatment at Lexington, just because he's painless at the moment doesn't mean they should abandon the whole treatment. This kid is a part of our future, it's not about playing 50 or 30 games in his rookie year, it's about him being the best version of himself in his Sixers tenure.

[LongLiveHinkie]

"Fultz hasn't shot for the public to see and isn't playing games. The only logical conclusion is they are hiding him from the public like a top secret business idea because Colangelo is afraid and because Fultz is a mental midget!"

"I haven't seen Megan for a couple days since she started hanging out with that new guy she met at the bar, Steve. He's clearly a member of a Manson-like cult, he's brainwashed her into being a vicious killer and they're currently planning a series of murders as we speak! What other conclusion could one draw???"

[LordCovington33]

He needs to get himself back to where he was physically and mentally before all this stuff happened. It takes time. Not sure why people still can't grasp this. He'll go when he's ready.

and he cant do this in philly? the hell, i dont wanna be right in this situation, but everything in this case screams cover-up to me. i hope he shoots it with his college-form when he comes back, but even then i was skeptical with his range and ft-shooting.

Cover up for what? It doesn't even make any sense.

It never does with these armchair experts. That want to see him fail. Just got to deal with the page after page of repetitious nonsense.

[BigSleep333]

and he cant do this in philly? the hell, i dont wanna be right in this situation, but everything in this case screams cover-up to me. i hope he shoots it with his college-form when he comes back, but even then i was skeptical with his range and ft-shooting.

Cover up for what? It doesn't even make any sense.

It never does with these armchair experts. That want to see him fail. Just got to deal with the page after page of repetitious nonsense.

i desperately dont want him to fail, mr. president of armchair experts. if he is what almost everybody here thinks, im probably happier than most of yall. im just strugglin why so many of you think thats all normal stuff and keep calm. wish i had this confidence in fultz, as i had it with jojo, but i just dont see it.

[LordCovington33]

Cover up for what? It doesn't even make any sense.

It never does with these armchair experts. That want to see him fail. Just got to deal with the page after page of repetitious nonsense.

i desperately dont want him to fail, mr. president of armchair experts. if he is what almost everybody here thinks, im probably happier than most of yall. im just strugglin why so many of you think thats all normal stuff and keep calm. wish i had this confidence in fultz, as i had it with jojo, but i just dont see it.

I am not an expert, and I don't claim to be. My top 4 were Fultz, Jackson/Fox and Monk. Jackson looks like a pile of crap and Fox and Monk are meh at this stage. I still have faith in Fultz. I loved him in college and loved how he was able to get to the rim with ease with his small sample. I get no satisfaction rubbishing our young kids like some here. I think he will be very good when all is said and done. No expert though.

[BigSleep333]

It never does with these armchair experts. That want to see him fail. Just got to deal with the page after page of repetitious nonsense.

i desperately dont want him to fail, mr. president of armchair experts. if he is what almost everybody here thinks, im probably happier than most of yall. im just strugglin why so many of you think thats all normal stuff and keep calm. wish i had this confidence in fultz, as i had it with jojo, but i just dont see it.

I am not an expert, and I don't claim to be. My top 4 were Fultz, Jackson/Fox and Monk. Jackson looks like a pile of crap and Fox and Monk are meh at this stage. I still have faith in Fultz. I loved him in college and loved how he was able to get to the rim with ease with his small sample. I get no satisfaction rubbishing our young kids like some here. I think he will be very good when all is said and done. No expert though.

neither i claimed that i am an expert. i just spoke out facts. i never heard of muscle imbalance caused a professional player to miss 2 months+. and now he is painfree and is still not with the team and takes no shots at all (at least that we know and could see). never heard of that too, that a healthy player isnt practicing with the team for 3 more weeks. wish i could have ya faith

[Ettorefm]

i desperately dont want him to fail, mr. president of armchair experts. if he is what almost everybody here thinks, im probably happier than most of yall. im just strugglin why so many of you think thats all normal stuff and keep calm. wish i had this confidence in fultz, as i had it with jojo, but i just dont see it.

I am not an expert, and I don't claim to be. My top 4 were Fultz, Jackson/Fox and Monk. Jackson looks like a pile of crap and Fox and Monk are meh at this stage. I still have faith in Fultz. I loved him in college and loved how he was able to get to the rim with ease with his small sample. I get no satisfaction rubbishing our young kids like some here. I think he will be very good when all is said and done. No expert though.

neither i claimed that i am an expert. i just spoke out facts. i never heard of muscle imbalance caused a professional player to miss 2 months+. and now he is painfree and is still not with the team and takes no shots at all (at least that we know and could see). never heard of that too, that a healthy player isnt practicing with the team for 3 more weeks. wish i could have ya faith

Faith is the excuse people give for believing something without evidence. Which is what..you did here.

everything in this case screams cover-up to me

That's called 'making stuff up'

[BigSleep333]

I am not an expert, and I don't claim to be. My top 4 were Fultz, Jackson/Fox and Monk. Jackson looks like a pile of crap and Fox and Monk are meh at this stage. I still have faith in Fultz. I loved him in college and loved how he was able to get to the rim with ease with his small sample. I get no satisfaction rubbishing our young kids like some here. I think he will be very good when all is said and done. No expert though.

neither i claimed that i am an expert. i just spoke out facts. i never heard of muscle imbalance caused a professional player to miss 2 months+. and now he is painfree and is still not with the team and takes no shots at all (at least that we know and could see). never heard of that too, that a healthy player isnt practicing with the team for 3 more weeks. wish i could have ya faith

Faith is the excuse people give for believing something without evidence. Which is what..you did here.

everything in this case screams cover-up to me

That's called 'making stuff up'

whats your "evidence" that fultz is injured? because they said so? thats not any different. you "believe it without evidence". there are no scans that show something is wrong with his shoulder..

thats not making up stuff, as i dont say its fact. "it screams to me" is pretty clearly just my impression of this situation.

[BigSleep333]

"Fultz hasn't shot for the public to see and isn't playing games. The only logical conclusion is they are hiding him from the public like a top secret business idea because Colangelo is afraid and because Fultz is a mental midget!"

"I haven't seen Megan for a couple days since she started hanging out with that new guy she met at the bar, Steve. He's clearly a member of a Manson-like cult, he's brainwashed her into being a vicious killer and they're currently planning a series of murders as we speak! What other conclusion could one draw???"

tried to laugh but nah, too far off. you have a good fantasy though...just like your boston comments.

boston has the best record in the east -> LongLiveHinkie: Boston is a bad team
tatum is leading the league in 3p% -> LongLiveHinkie: Tatum is bad shooter


that always make me lmao

[BullyKing]

neither i claimed that i am an expert. i just spoke out facts. i never heard of muscle imbalance caused a professional player to miss 2 months+. and now he is painfree and is still not with the team and takes no shots at all (at least that we know and could see). never heard of that too, that a healthy player isnt practicing with the team for 3 more weeks. wish i could have ya faith

Faith is the excuse people give for believing something without evidence. Which is what..you did here.

everything in this case screams cover-up to me

That's called 'making stuff up'

whats your "evidence" that fultz is injured? because they said so? thats not any different. you "believe it without evidence". there are no scans that show something is wrong with his shoulder..

thats not making up stuff, as i dont say its fact. "it screams to me" is pretty clearly just my impression of this situation.

This is just ridiculous. So if I said that I don't think Embiid was ever injured but missed those two years as a CIA asset it should be equally plausible to you because you've never seen videos of the surgery or scans or anything.

[tsmith]

Damn this thread is trash, everyone reckons they've got the answer and wont listen to anything else.

[cool93]

Idk whats so hard to understand to some people. Is this situation strange? Yeah. Can you make ANY kind of conclusions? No. You don't have info. Simple as that.

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[BigSleep333]

Faith is the excuse people give for believing something without evidence. Which is what..you did here.



That's called 'making stuff up'

whats your "evidence" that fultz is injured? because they said so? thats not any different. you "believe it without evidence". there are no scans that show something is wrong with his shoulder..

thats not making up stuff, as i dont say its fact. "it screams to me" is pretty clearly just my impression of this situation.

This is just ridiculous. So if I said that I don't think Embiid was ever injured but missed those two years as a CIA asset it should be equally plausible to you because you've never seen videos of the surgery or scans or anything.

on a logical standpoint, yes it is plausible to think he wasnt injured if you saw no scans. not equally though cause most infos indicate he was injured, but in the end, if there is no evidence you have to trust. like if you are going to the doctor and he says you have XY and you should take those XY medis. do you KNOW the doc is right? no you dont, you have to trust him...its plausible to think he knows what he does but also to think hes an idiot and has no clue and is guessing.

dont know why you have to put that CIA stuff in there..

[Ettorefm]

^
Read the post above from cool93, dude. /thread

[BigSleep333]

Idk whats so hard to understand to some people. Is this situation strange? Yeah. Can you make ANY kind of conclusions? No. You don't have info. Simple as that.

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everything is about probabilites in life. every news about this **** that got to me shifted the probablity imo to the side of thinking there was no injury. thats my view. period. whats your problem with it? i dont sell it as a fact.

[BullyKing]

whats your "evidence" that fultz is injured? because they said so? thats not any different. you "believe it without evidence". there are no scans that show something is wrong with his shoulder..

thats not making up stuff, as i dont say its fact. "it screams to me" is pretty clearly just my impression of this situation.

This is just ridiculous. So if I said that I don't think Embiid was ever injured but missed those two years as a CIA asset it should be equally plausible to you because you've never seen videos of the surgery or scans or anything.

on a logical standpoint, yes it is plausible to think he wasnt injured if you saw no scans. not equally though cause most infos indicate he was injured, but in the end, if there is no evidence you have to trust. like if you are going to the doctor and he says you have XY and you should take those XY medis. do you KNOW the doc is right? no you dont, you have to trust him...its plausible to think he knows what he does but also to think hes an idiot and has no clue and is guessing.

dont know why you have to put that CIA stuff in there..

No, it is not plausible to think he wasn't injured just because you saw no scans because you never see scans of players. Do you think its plausible to think ever injury is made up?

Again, the situation is most certainly weird but saying it is totally made up is more bizarre.

[BigSleep333]

This is just ridiculous. So if I said that I don't think Embiid was ever injured but missed those two years as a CIA asset it should be equally plausible to you because you've never seen videos of the surgery or scans or anything.

on a logical standpoint, yes it is plausible to think he wasnt injured if you saw no scans. not equally though cause most infos indicate he was injured, but in the end, if there is no evidence you have to trust. like if you are going to the doctor and he says you have XY and you should take those XY medis. do you KNOW the doc is right? no you dont, you have to trust him...its plausible to think he knows what he does but also to think hes an idiot and has no clue and is guessing.

dont know why you have to put that CIA stuff in there..

No, it is not plausible to think he wasn't injured just because you saw no scans because you never see scans of players. Do you think its plausible to think ever injury is made up?

Again, the situation is most certainly weird but saying it is totally made up is more bizarre.

well 99% of the time there is no reason to not "believe" what you have been told. this case is obv not that certain. show me ONE EXAMPLE where a player sits out 2+ months for muscular imbalance and doesnt practice for at least 3 weeks, after news was released the player has no more pain and i will shut up forever regarding fultz. please give me something

[BullyKing]

on a logical standpoint, yes it is plausible to think he wasnt injured if you saw no scans. not equally though cause most infos indicate he was injured, but in the end, if there is no evidence you have to trust. like if you are going to the doctor and he says you have XY and you should take those XY medis. do you KNOW the doc is right? no you dont, you have to trust him...its plausible to think he knows what he does but also to think hes an idiot and has no clue and is guessing.

dont know why you have to put that CIA stuff in there..

No, it is not plausible to think he wasn't injured just because you saw no scans because you never see scans of players. Do you think its plausible to think ever injury is made up?

Again, the situation is most certainly weird but saying it is totally made up is more bizarre.

well 99% of the time there is no reason to not "believe" what you have been told. this case is obv not that certain. show me ONE EXAMPLE where a player sits out 2+ months and doesnt practice for at least 3 weeks, after news was released the player has no more pain and i will shut up forever regarding fultz. please give me something

Because he has barely played since February so I'm assuming that this time is used to get him back in game shape with his conditioning and soon that will include an actual return to practice. It's not clear that he won't practice for three weeks just that he is not right now.

But the underlined is my real issue. It's no one's job here to provide evidence to talk you off a conspiratorial ledge that you walked yourself onto without evidence. You are free to continue to believe whatever you want.

[JojoSlimbiid]

on a logical standpoint, yes it is plausible to think he wasnt injured if you saw no scans. not equally though cause most infos indicate he was injured, but in the end, if there is no evidence you have to trust. like if you are going to the doctor and he says you have XY and you should take those XY medis. do you KNOW the doc is right? no you dont, you have to trust him...its plausible to think he knows what he does but also to think hes an idiot and has no clue and is guessing.

dont know why you have to put that CIA stuff in there..

No, it is not plausible to think he wasn't injured just because you saw no scans because you never see scans of players. Do you think its plausible to think ever injury is made up?

Again, the situation is most certainly weird but saying it is totally made up is more bizarre.

well 99% of the time there is no reason to not "believe" what you have been told. this case is obv not that certain. show me ONE EXAMPLE where a player sits out 2+ months for muscular imbalance and doesnt practice for at least 3 weeks, after news was released the player has no more pain and i will shut up forever regarding fultz. please give me something

Show me one example of a player that has had scapular muscle imbalance in his/her shoulder. You seem certain that there is an acceptable time table for this injury well show me a situation where a player has been diagnosed with the same injury to his/her shoulder and has come back within what you seem to "deem" an acceptable time frame.

No I don't mean an example where "my cousin's mother in laws nephew's nieces son had the same injury and came back in a week". I mean legitimate examples of this same injury. I looked and couldn't find any but since your speaking with some decisiveness maybe you've seen an example of this injury before.

[BigSleep333]

No, it is not plausible to think he wasn't injured just because you saw no scans because you never see scans of players. Do you think its plausible to think ever injury is made up?

Again, the situation is most certainly weird but saying it is totally made up is more bizarre.

well 99% of the time there is no reason to not "believe" what you have been told. this case is obv not that certain. show me ONE EXAMPLE where a player sits out 2+ months and doesnt practice for at least 3 weeks, after news was released the player has no more pain and i will shut up forever regarding fultz. please give me something

Because he has barely played since February so I'm assuming that this time is used to get him back in game shape with his conditioning and soon that will include an actual return to practice. It's not clear that he won't practice for three weeks just that he is not right now.

But the underlined is my real issue. It's no one's job here to provide evidence to talk you off a conspiratorial ledge that you walked yourself onto without evidence. You are free to continue to believe whatever you want.

fultz is injured and needs a quadrillion days to heal a broken fingernail. if BC told that, would it still be conspirational to you to think this is complete BS? for me it is almost at this point, since no one can give me a comparable example.