Hawks game thread

[A_dub06]

Kennard 1-8...i hope he snaps out of it or Galloway will take his spot

Such a good thing we went for the “proven shooter” over the 2-way prospect that us Mitchell.

We haven’t been good enough in a long time to draft for specific need/fit over talent.

So quickly y'all forget Galloway's cold shooting like 2 weeks ago.

Shooters that don't play consistent minutes are naturally streaky. It happens. Play both of them and sit Bullock if you want to do anything.

For scrubs maybe, but honestly you’re way overthinking this.

Good shooters in the NBA hit their shots regardless, which is why they are good shooters. Plus the point I was making was that we should have taken Mitchell over Kennard. Would have made the lows much easier to swallow


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[Billl]

"Plus the point I was making was that we should have taken Mitchell over Kennard. "
Yeah - hindsight is 20/20. We "should" have taken the leading scoring rookie........ and so should most of the other 12 teams that passed on him.

[ImHeisenberg]

Stanley Johnson should demand a trade. Playing behind Bullock is a friggin insult.

Stanley Johnson should be happy he's not playing in Europe. He isn't an NBA level player right now. An okay 1 on 1 defender is all you can attribute to his skill set right now. Not exactly starter material, or even high quality back-up material.

So Detroit should have no problem trading him for nothing or even just releasing him. You don't improve sitting your ass on the bench, and when playing the leash is so tight around your neck you can't relax. SVG is a control freak who is ruining the kids career because he can. He treats him differently than every other player on the team. Johnson should Sprewell him and force the issue.

You have some valid points. It does seem like SJ has a short leash. But, maybe that is for his own good? SVG has alluded to maturity issues with him. I've even read of fan interactions with him where he's a total a-hole to them; these weren't in team meet and greet situations, just running into him around town.

SVG asks him to stay away from pointless rec leagues in the summer and focus on developing his offensive skills. What does he do? He shows up in just about every rec league I've ever heard of. Mix tapes of him dropping 80 points on high school level talent, where he's 7 inches taller than everyone.

He's looking like another classic case of a million dollar body with a ten cent brain. He also shoot like a girl.

[Drwho17]

"Plus the point I was making was that we should have taken Mitchell over Kennard. "
Yeah - hindsight is 20/20. We "should" have taken the leading scoring rookie........ and so should most of the other 12 teams that passed on him.

It's not really hindsight, at the time of the draft most wanted Mitchell over Kennard.

[JD43320]

Good God the excuses some of you make for Stanley Johnson are just painful

SVG mistakes regarding Stanley Johnson are as follows

1. Drafted him

That is it.

Stanley can't shoot. Stanley can't take people off the dribble. Stanley can't post people up. Stanley can't jump. Stanley can't cut off the ball.

Stanley can defend but is a net negative when you factor in his "offense". His short leash is a result of him only being able to defend. If he's continuously blowing his defensive assignments why should he stay on the floor?

[Billl]

"Plus the point I was making was that we should have taken Mitchell over Kennard. "
Yeah - hindsight is 20/20. We "should" have taken the leading scoring rookie........ and so should most of the other 12 teams that passed on him.

It's not really hindsight, at the time of the draft most wanted Mitchell over Kennard.

Eh - some did. Not many people thought he was going to blow up like this though.

[Drwho17]

I think the vast majority wanted Mitchell, because he was thought to be able and come in and hold his own defensively, the offense is a bonus. Lots of people didn't want Kennard either, because of the fear of college shooters coming into the NBA that don't pan out. I think what we are seeing is a classic mistake, the Pistons took the lower floor guy, and will pay for it moving forward. THis is the second lottery pick that SVG has bungled, really hurts. As much as he has upped the talent level overall, missing in the lottery really hurts.

[Billl]

We can pull up the old draft thread if you want. Lots of people were just flipping out because Monk went 1 pick ahead of us ... we should have tanked at the end of the season etc. Not a whole lot of expectations of Mitchell setting the world on fire even from the people who preferred him to Kennard.

[Billl]

Since i had time to kill - this is what you were saying right before our pick. Definitely anti-Kennard, but kinda a luke warm mitchell endorsement and the rest of that list isn't looking hot compared to Kennard.

"Now to avoid the Kennard trap. I'm happy with lots of others, I'd take Mitchell/Ferguson/Monk or even Harry Giles here. SVG isn't going to play the guy anyway, get the biggest upside."

[GreekAlex]

Since i had time to kill - this is what you were saying right before our pick. Definitely anti-Kennard, but kinda a luke warm mitchell endorsement and the rest of that list isn't looking hot compared to Kennard.

"Now to avoid the Kennard trap. I'm happy with lots of others, I'd take Mitchell/Ferguson/Monk or even Harry Giles here. SVG isn't going to play the guy anyway, get the biggest upside."

Can you find my post?

I believe I said the same thing I saying now.

This team need to go for the player with the highest ceiling. Kennards best case doesn't have enough impact.

[A_dub06]

"Plus the point I was making was that we should have taken Mitchell over Kennard. "
Yeah - hindsight is 20/20. We "should" have taken the leading scoring rookie........ and so should most of the other 12 teams that passed on him.

Hindsight isn’t 20/20, I believe the majority on this forum wanted Mitchell, this isn’t even close to people saying we should’ve drafted Booker over Johnson which at the time was a highly unpopular opinion with KCP on the team. If you don’t believe me, I’ll willing to dig through old posts to show I was one of Mitchell’s bigger advocates with our pick. I’m sick of the hindsight rhetoric being thrown around when it’s not true in every case, it’s something only a bitter old man would say. I didn’t anticipate Mitchell being this good but he would 100% have been my pick by displaying two-way potential, great athleticism, elite length and an even better attitude. Kennard was the “safe” pick that almost always turns out to be an average starter at best. But please, continue spewing your old man opinions


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