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Post#321 » by Parliament10 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:14 am

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Dave_From_NB wrote:Busy schedule, but I wonder if they need to send Semi down for a couple of games. He's shooting worse than Marcus for the season, hard to think he is going to break out of it with just a few shots a game.

Agree. He needs consistent playing time and attempts to work out his shot. The form on it is fine and he’s not taking bad shots but they just aren’t dropping. Give the kid reps down in Portland and a lot of them

Definitely, Semi Ojeleye needs to go down to the G-League a few times. Improve his game.
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Post#324 » by 31to6 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:25 am

I have to say, these big #s and highlight moves against guys who can't play in the league are dead to me. Guerschon doesn't seem likely to translate from China (not a surprise), and Nader's stardom/ability to play basketball certainly doesn't translate from the G-league (not a surprise, but I did hold out hope).

I'm left not really caring what Jabari Bird does in Maine, because I feel like he can actually play in the NBA, even if it takes until next year to get a real shot at it. He can learn our system and hone his craft (TM Kyrie), but it's tough to care about the boxscores or highlights. Goodness am I a humbug sorry :)
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Post#325 » by hickfromfrenchlick » Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:37 am

Yeah I came here to say the G League sucks. 58 points from two guys who can barely get minutes in the NBA. MLB and AAA aren't this far apart. This is like a dude batting .400 at Pawtucket and then hitting .180 for the BoSox.

I believe in the G League. But it needs to be get a whole lot better in terms of the level of competition.
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Post#326 » by 31to6 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:44 am

hickfromfrenchlick wrote:Yeah I came here to say the G League sucks. 58 points from two guys who can barely get minutes in the NBA. MLB and AAA aren't this far apart. This is like a dude batting .400 at Pawtucket and then hitting .180 for the BoSox.

I believe in the G League. But it needs to be get a whole lot better in terms of the level of competition.


Can it, though? Where do they find the guys who are better than what they've got? I mean our G-league guys just got stomped by the Bulls, so where do you find a guy better than modern Tyler Hansborough but not as good as modern Bobby Portis?

Better pay to attract guys from overseas? It always looks more fun over there. Wait on the dissolution of the NCAA? Long wait. I don't know the answer here but figure if must be better for someone like Guerschon to play there than ride our pine right now, as long as he actually works and gets coached and no one (including him!!) gets hyped about big #s in the boxscores.
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Post#327 » by hickfromfrenchlick » Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:01 am

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hickfromfrenchlick wrote:Yeah I came here to say the G League sucks. 58 points from two guys who can barely get minutes in the NBA. MLB and AAA aren't this far apart. This is like a dude batting .400 at Pawtucket and then hitting .180 for the BoSox.

I believe in the G League. But it needs to be get a whole lot better in terms of the level of competition.


Can it, though? Where do they find the guys who are better than what they've got? I mean our G-league guys just got stomped by the Bulls, so where do you find a guy better than modern Tyler Hansborough but not as good as modern Bobby Portis?

Better pay to attract guys from overseas? It always looks more fun over there. Wait on the dissolution of the NCAA? Long wait. I don't know the answer here but figure if must be better for someone like Guerschon to play there than ride our pine right now, as long as he actually works and gets coached and no one (including him!!) gets hyped about big #s in the boxscores.


Yup: Pay the players more. LiAngelo wouldn't be playing in Lithuania if he got paid $100,000 to play in Fort Wayne. It's not more fun for these kids. Sure, some of them might find it exciting. But most of them are homesick; they want American pizza and hot dogs like any other 20-year-old.

Not saying it will work but it has to happen if there's any chance of the G League prospering.

Getting rid of the age limit may bring more talent into the league, too.
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Post#328 » by Elrod is Back » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:34 am

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hickfromfrenchlick wrote:Yeah I came here to say the G League sucks. 58 points from two guys who can barely get minutes in the NBA. MLB and AAA aren't this far apart. This is like a dude batting .400 at Pawtucket and then hitting .180 for the BoSox.

I believe in the G League. But it needs to be get a whole lot better in terms of the level of competition.


Can it, though? Where do they find the guys who are better than what they've got? I mean our G-league guys just got stomped by the Bulls, so where do you find a guy better than modern Tyler Hansborough but not as good as modern Bobby Portis?

Better pay to attract guys from overseas? It always looks more fun over there. Wait on the dissolution of the NCAA? Long wait. I don't know the answer here but figure if must be better for someone like Guerschon to play there than ride our pine right now, as long as he actually works and gets coached and no one (including him!!) gets hyped about big #s in the boxscores.


Yup: Pay the players more. LiAngelo wouldn't be playing in Lithuania if he got paid $100,000 to play in Fort Wayne. It's not more fun for these kids. Sure, some of them might find it exciting. But most of them are homesick; they want American pizza and hot dogs like any other 20-year-old.

Not saying it will work but it has to happen if there's any chance of the G League prospering.

Getting rid of the age limit may bring more talent into the league, too.



I doubt LiAngelo could make a G-League roster, let alone ever see court time.
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Post#329 » by Parliament10 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:07 am

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hickfromfrenchlick wrote:Yeah I came here to say the G League sucks. 58 points from two guys who can barely get minutes in the NBA. MLB and AAA aren't this far apart. This is like a dude batting .400 at Pawtucket and then hitting .180 for the BoSox.

I believe in the G League. But it needs to be get a whole lot better in terms of the level of competition.


Can it, though? Where do they find the guys who are better than what they've got? I mean our G-league guys just got stomped by the Bulls, so where do you find a guy better than modern Tyler Hansborough but not as good as modern Bobby Portis?

Better pay to attract guys from overseas? It always looks more fun over there. Wait on the dissolution of the NCAA? Long wait. I don't know the answer here but figure if must be better for someone like Guerschon to play there than ride our pine right now, as long as he actually works and gets coached and no one (including him!!) gets hyped about big #s in the boxscores.


Yup: Pay the players more. LiAngelo wouldn't be playing in Lithuania if he got paid $100,000 to play in Fort Wayne. It's not more fun for these kids. Sure, some of them might find it exciting. But most of them are homesick; they want American pizza and hot dogs like any other 20-year-old.

Not saying it will work but it has to happen if there's any chance of the G League prospering.

Getting rid of the age limit may bring more talent into the league, too.

Exactly. -- Pay the G-League more, and the Talent will come.
In fact, paying just half of what the overseas pays, would bring in the Talent.

Agree, on eliminating the age Restriction.
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Post#330 » by hickfromfrenchlick » Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:23 pm

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Can it, though? Where do they find the guys who are better than what they've got? I mean our G-league guys just got stomped by the Bulls, so where do you find a guy better than modern Tyler Hansborough but not as good as modern Bobby Portis?

Better pay to attract guys from overseas? It always looks more fun over there. Wait on the dissolution of the NCAA? Long wait. I don't know the answer here but figure if must be better for someone like Guerschon to play there than ride our pine right now, as long as he actually works and gets coached and no one (including him!!) gets hyped about big #s in the boxscores.


Yup: Pay the players more. LiAngelo wouldn't be playing in Lithuania if he got paid $100,000 to play in Fort Wayne. It's not more fun for these kids. Sure, some of them might find it exciting. But most of them are homesick; they want American pizza and hot dogs like any other 20-year-old.

Not saying it will work but it has to happen if there's any chance of the G League prospering.

Getting rid of the age limit may bring more talent into the league, too.



I doubt LiAngelo could make a G-League roster, let alone ever see court time.


My bad -- I meant LaMelo, who's much higher rated. No, LiAngelo wouldn't have played at UCLA.
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Post#331 » by 24istheLAW » Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:32 pm

I'd rather Yabusele practice with the A-team, than play with the B-team.

Filling up the box score with the Red Claws isn't going to improve his defensive anticipation with the Celtics.
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Post#332 » by Parliament10 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:20 pm

24istheLAW wrote:I'd rather Yabusele practice with the A-team, than play with the B-team.

Filling up the box score with the Red Claws isn't going to improve his defensive anticipation with the Celtics.

IDK about that. -- It did Wonders for Avery Bradley.
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Post#333 » by 31to6 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:46 pm

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24istheLAW wrote:I'd rather Yabusele practice with the A-team, than play with the B-team.

Filling up the box score with the Red Claws isn't going to improve his defensive anticipation with the Celtics.

IDK about that. -- It did Wonders for Avery Bradley.
G-League can only get better. -- I think it's the Best place that we have, to Develop players.


Honest question: Does our team practice anymore? I'm not sure how many reps Yabs gets with the big club. Brad honestly uses games (especially against perceived lesser opponents) as practice. I wonder if that's partly because there's so little actual practice this time (but maybe I'm exaggerating, I only pay attention on game days..).
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Post#334 » by cloverleaf » Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:03 pm

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24istheLAW wrote:I'd rather Yabusele practice with the A-team, than play with the B-team.

Filling up the box score with the Red Claws isn't going to improve his defensive anticipation with the Celtics.

IDK about that. -- It did Wonders for Avery Bradley.
G-League can only get better. -- I think it's the Best place that we have, to Develop players.


Honest question: Does our team practice anymore? I'm not sure how many reps Yabs gets with the big club. Brad honestly uses games (especially against perceived lesser opponents) as practice. I wonder if that's partly because there's so little actual practice this time (but maybe I'm exaggerating, I only pay attention on game days..).


Yep--Yabs needs practice getting with the defensive program--and to realize he won't play with the big boys until he's there.
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Post#335 » by Parliament10 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:20 pm

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Parliament10 wrote:IDK about that. -- It did Wonders for Avery Bradley.
G-League can only get better. -- I think it's the Best place that we have, to Develop players.


Honest question: Does our team practice anymore? I'm not sure how many reps Yabs gets with the big club. Brad honestly uses games (especially against perceived lesser opponents) as practice. I wonder if that's partly because there's so little actual practice this time (but maybe I'm exaggerating, I only pay attention on game days..).


Yep--Yabs needs practice getting with the defensive program--and to realize he won't play with the big boys until he's there.

With only 2 Days between games, I don't think that we are practicing.
There's little time.

That's why I believe that the Preseason, should start at the Beginning of September, and be at least 12 Games.
And, the Regular Season, should start at the Beginning of October.

Trust. This would eliminate a lot of injuries, and improve competition.
And that of the G-League, as well.

I'd like to see Back-to-Backs, all but eliminated.
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Post#337 » by Parliament10 » Tue Dec 26, 2017 11:30 pm

Our Minor League team is suffering too.
Maine Red Claws were at the Top of the conference.

Now, we've fallen out of the Playoff Race.
We need to get those Celtics players back down there.

Yabusele, Nader, and Ojeleye could use the practice, too.
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Interesting, and I am not expecting anything. However, 2013 was not that long ago. He is still young. That being said, I don't see him ever wearing a Celtics' uniform, but people can try and convince me.

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