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Re: Jazz (13-15) @ Celtics (24-6) – 7:30 PM, Fri, Dec. 15, 2017 

Post#681 » by CSL_1904 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:49 am

Mitchell will be a star for many years. What a player. By far the best player in this draft class.

Terrible loss. Not enough effort on defense and yet another night of guys missing easy shots. Can't win like that.
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Post#682 » by tfmiii » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:49 am

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GoCeltics123 wrote:This is our worst loss of the season IMO. I know the Bulls one was bad, but this is worse IMO. No Kyrie that game.

Yep, 2nd game of B2B on the road too.

This without Gobert and Favors.

Tho TBH I think it was addition by subtraction for them, opened up game for Rubio
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Post#683 » by jfs1000d » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:49 am

BigTrade92 wrote:Tommy calling Danny out on the bench.


He’s right. Rozier is inconsistent, and smart isn’t a good offensive player.

They get no scoring from the backup 4s and 5s outside of garbage points. We need a scorer.


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Re: Jazz (13-15) @ Celtics (24-6) – 7:30 PM, Fri, Dec. 15, 2017 

Post#684 » by Shak_Celts » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:50 am

Disappointed. Our offense had always been terrible, we weren't going to play that level d all season. We should have know our offense was gonna bite us eventually. If not for al and kyrie the offense would have destroyed us long ago. The bench has been so poor all season on offense, the halftime kids would outscore it.
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Re: Jazz (13-15) @ Celtics (24-6) – 7:30 PM, Fri, Dec. 15, 2017 

Post#685 » by CSL_1904 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:51 am

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BigTrade92 wrote:Tommy calling Danny out on the bench.


To be fair, the team was supposed to have Hayward and Morris.


But it doesn’t anymore.

Time for Danny to get to work. You’ve got the DPE. Use it.

For the regular season? Danny is doing well by waiting for the right moment.
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Re: Jazz (13-15) @ Celtics (24-6) – 7:30 PM, Fri, Dec. 15, 2017 

Post#686 » by BigTrade92 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:51 am

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BigTrade92 wrote:Tommy calling Danny out on the bench.


He’s right. Rozier is inconsistent, and smart isn’t a good offensive player.

They get no scoring from the backup 4s and 5s outside of garbage points. We need a scorer.


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Absoutely, and I’m glad he did it.

Enough is enough. I don’t want to see Abdul Nader and Guersheon Yabusele getting minutes any further.
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Re: Jazz (13-15) @ Celtics (24-6) – 7:30 PM, Fri, Dec. 15, 2017 

Post#687 » by BigTrade92 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:52 am

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To be fair, the team was supposed to have Hayward and Morris.


But it doesn’t anymore.

Time for Danny to get to work. You’ve got the DPE. Use it.

For the regular season? Danny is doing well by waiting for the right moment.


That’s fine, but the bench still stinks. If you want to hold off, fine.

But make a trade at least for a Bellinelli or Lou Williams.
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Re: Jazz (13-15) @ Celtics (24-6) – 7:30 PM, Fri, Dec. 15, 2017 

Post#688 » by aim2please » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:52 am

Tommy is way off on this. This is about D, not O. Celtics allowed 107 against a 'slow' team. When you give up middle on pick and roll you have shots at the rim and/or corner 3s. That's what Utah had all night.

The thing about Celtics getting out-rebounded is (obivously) connected to shooting numbers. When the other team is missing shots, you're getting a lot of def. rebounds. When they score high %, like teams have in the last couple of weeks, you have a situation like tonight. 46-29 def. rebounds. It's hard to get one when the other team is shooting 50%.
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Post#689 » by celticfan42487 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:54 am

Shak_Celts wrote:Disappointed. Our offense had always been terrible, we weren't going to play that level d all season. We should have know our offense was gonna bite us eventually. If not for al and kyrie the offense would have destroyed us long ago. The bench has been so poor all season on offense, the halftime kids would outscore it.


At this point I think Stevens should just admit, if he's playing Smart and Rozier, the offense is going to go bad. If that's case we should go rebounding in Baynes over theoretical 3 point shooting in Semi.

And we sure as **** shouldn't see 4 PG lineups like Smart, Irving, Rozier, Larkin, Semi. Dude, I don't care if they're small they're going to **** suck on offense. So go get a big in there. And Horford is a pussy so he won't rebound if they're only playing one big so you better get Baynes in that second unit because those **** are going to ISO and miss. Only Irving has proven this season to be able to score isoing on the team right now.

Role players like Brown, Larkin, and Tatum need the ball to be moving in an motion offense to be able to get open looks. If your team is just going to be Irving, Rozier, Smart isoing then **** it. Go all in on rebounding most importantly to grab the bench misses, then defense.
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Post#690 » by radcot » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:54 am

BigTrade92 wrote:
jfs1000d wrote:
BigTrade92 wrote:Tommy calling Danny out on the bench.


He’s right. Rozier is inconsistent, and smart isn’t a good offensive player.

They get no scoring from the backup 4s and 5s outside of garbage points. We need a scorer.


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Absoutely, and I’m glad he did it.

Enough is enough. I don’t want to see Abdul Nader and Guersheon Yabusele getting minutes any further.


You know a Celtics weakness is smack-you-in-the-face obvious when Tommy is calling out the team for it!!!
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Post#691 » by CSL_1904 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:57 am

BigTrade92 wrote:
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BigTrade92 wrote:
But it doesn’t anymore.

Time for Danny to get to work. You’ve got the DPE. Use it.

For the regular season? Danny is doing well by waiting for the right moment.


That’s fine, but the bench still stinks. If you want to hold off, fine.

But make a trade at least for a Bellinelli or Lou Williams.

There's nothing of value available for us right now. Gotta wait
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Post#692 » by Asian Celtic » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:57 am

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Asian Celtic wrote:How do you let Joe **** Ingles be the jazz best rebounder and get outrebounded? SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GET ANGRY ON THAT LOCKER ROOM.

KG isn't walking into that locker room unfortunately


Yeah, it looks like they're all chill. We need that emotional leader. Someone who can fire the team up.
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Re: Jazz (13-15) @ Celtics (24-6) – 7:30 PM, Fri, Dec. 15, 2017 

Post#693 » by celticfan42487 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:58 am

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BigTrade92 wrote:
jfs1000d wrote:
He’s right. Rozier is inconsistent, and smart isn’t a good offensive player.

They get no scoring from the backup 4s and 5s outside of garbage points. We need a scorer.


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Absoutely, and I’m glad he did it.

Enough is enough. I don’t want to see Abdul Nader and Guersheon Yabusele getting minutes any further.


You know a Celtics weakness is smack-you-in-the-face obvious when Tommy is calling out the team for it!!!


I hope we don't pay Smart 15 million a year because there may be one dumb team in the NBA offering it which if we match will give us the privilege of having a crap bench and pay luxury tax for it.
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Re: Jazz (13-15) @ Celtics (24-6) – 7:30 PM, Fri, Dec. 15, 2017 

Post#694 » by jfs1000d » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:58 am

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BigTrade92 wrote:Tommy calling Danny out on the bench.


Got to cut the ties with Nader and get somebody that can actually play. We have nobody that can score at SF or SG consistently. Brown, Rozier, Tatum and Smart are still all '20 points today 4 points tomorrow type of guys'.


Seriously. It was puzzling when he actually made the team to begin with. Now it’s just nonsense.


Nader and Yabs aren’t good enough to be on the team. Same with Bird and Allen. We need vets. Old people, low ceiling and past Their prime professionals who are competent.


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Post#695 » by BigTrade92 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:00 am

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BigTrade92 wrote:
BRUNiNHO91 wrote:
Got to cut the ties with Nader and get somebody that can actually play. We have nobody that can score at SF or SG consistently. Brown, Rozier, Tatum and Smart are still all '20 points today 4 points tomorrow type of guys'.


Seriously. It was puzzling when he actually made the team to begin with. Now it’s just nonsense.


Nader and Yabs aren’t good enough to be on the team. Same with Bird and Allen. We need vets. Old people, low ceiling and past Their prime professionals who are competent.


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Gerald Green.

I’ve said this since the moment Ainge revealed he was keeping an open roster spot in October and I’ll say it again now....

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Re: Jazz (13-15) @ Celtics (24-6) – 7:30 PM, Fri, Dec. 15, 2017 

Post#696 » by Infinite Llamas » Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:04 am

Bring in Humphries to grab some rebounds and hit some jumpers
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Re: Jazz (13-15) @ Celtics (24-6) – 7:30 PM, Fri, Dec. 15, 2017 

Post#697 » by Jakeopp » Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:06 am

jfs1000d wrote:
BigTrade92 wrote:
BRUNiNHO91 wrote:
Got to cut the ties with Nader and get somebody that can actually play. We have nobody that can score at SF or SG consistently. Brown, Rozier, Tatum and Smart are still all '20 points today 4 points tomorrow type of guys'.


Seriously. It was puzzling when he actually made the team to begin with. Now it’s just nonsense.


Nader and Yabs aren’t good enough to be on the team. Same with Bird and Allen. We need vets. Old people, low ceiling and past Their prime professionals who are competent.


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Couldn't agree more. Look at teams like GS, Cleveland and SA. We'd be in far better shape if we had players like Korver/Iggy/Livingston coming off our bench, or even Rudy Gay/Patty Mills/Nick Young/DWade.

We look ridiculous sending out lineups full of guys who weren't in the league last year.
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Re: Jazz (13-15) @ Celtics (24-6) – 7:30 PM, Fri, Dec. 15, 2017 

Post#698 » by CoachD » Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:12 am

tfmiii wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:
GoCeltics123 wrote:This is our worst loss of the season IMO. I know the Bulls one was bad, but this is worse IMO. No Kyrie that game.

Yep, 2nd game of B2B on the road too.

This without Gobert and Favors.

Tho TBH I think it was addition by subtraction for them, opened up game for Rubio


Addition by subtraction?

Gobert is a top tier star in this league and Favors has been unreal at the 5 ....

No.

Dont justify the loss by saying addition by subtraction
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Re: Jazz (13-15) @ Celtics (24-6) – 7:30 PM, Fri, Dec. 15, 2017 

Post#699 » by GoCeltics123 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:14 am

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tfmiii wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:Yep, 2nd game of B2B on the road too.

This without Gobert and Favors.

Tho TBH I think it was addition by subtraction for them, opened up game for Rubio


Addition by subtraction?

Gobert is a top tier star in this league and Favors has been unreal at the 5 ....

No.

Dont justify the loss by saying addition by subtraction

Yeah I don't agree with it either. Laid an egg.

But hey, it's not like your team hasn't either :wink:
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Re: Jazz (13-15) @ Celtics (24-6) – 7:30 PM, Fri, Dec. 15, 2017 

Post#700 » by jfs1000d » Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:17 am

To me, go get lou Williams and Greg Monroe.


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