BREAKING: FCC votes in favor of Net Neutrality repeal

[Bill Pidto]

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[Greenie]

before net neutrality we were being charged more for less but according for you that is fine. Net neutrality proved the service can provided for a reasonable price with out limiting the content now they have been giving a legal way to charge more and provide less that is not an open market.

What would you like me to do about it?

Nothing but I am pointing out your argument is flawed your are looking like your supporting something that is not true

No, it’s true.

As a matter of fact everything people are arguing for makes no sense to me. Literally mad at little loss of convenience(speed) and companies placing their own products above the competitions(you can’t have google because your ISP is verizon).

[CowboyBebop]

Yikes. This is your solution? don't use the internet?
Hey if you don't want to get in to accidents, don't drive

The internet is more and more becoming an essential commodity. It doesn't make sense to say "just don't use it"

You pay for that commodity. So pay for it.
I pay for faster internet now. Nothing is changing except price(potentially) from BOTH the ISP’s and different services.

Now either you’re willing to pay or you’re not. Just like there’s people with cars and people who use public transportation. There is a price for every convenient commodity and that’s exactly what the internet is.

People are literally bitching about THE POSSIBILITY of waiting for **** to load or things buffering. Give me a damn break. You don’t wanna wait? Pay.

1) did you not hear people say that in certain places because of regulations they only have one option for internet provider? I dont mind a free market approach if it is truly a free market. The problem is in many places, there are regulations that prevent new companies from entering the market. 2) the problem with speed is that im already paying 100mbps but now time warner can slow that to 10mbps when im streaming netflix. They are likely to do that because 1- netflix does use alot of bandwidth and 2-netflix is a COMPETITOR. Most important of all, ISPs can even BLOCK competitors services entirely. This is not just POSSIBILITY. Verizon actually tried to Block alot of google services, like the use of google wallet.

I see this post went unanswered. Probably because there is no rational answer. And the American people made it clear where they stand on this issue. The FCC decided to ignore it.

[CowboyBebop]

What would you like me to do about it?

Nothing but I am pointing out your argument is flawed your are looking like your supporting something that is not true

No, it’s true.

As a matter of fact everything people are arguing for makes no sense to me. Literally mad at little loss of convenience(speed) and companies placing their own products above the competitions(you can’t have google because your ISP is verizon).

How is not having access to the largest search engine in the world a “little loss of convenience”? Entire businesses depend on google. If I own a blog or a website and depend on ad revenue from google AdWords, how am I supposed to manage my account if my provider is Verizon (who owns yahoo and has decided to block google)?

You’ve been given countless examples of how this could potentially harm consumers. But you choose to ignore it and just parrot the stances of others when you clearly don’t understand the issue. Derp derp derp “Netflix and chill will be expensive” derp derp You’ve embarrassed yourself thoroughly in this thread.

[Greenie]

Nothing but I am pointing out your argument is flawed your are looking like your supporting something that is not true

No, it’s true.

As a matter of fact everything people are arguing for makes no sense to me. Literally mad at little loss of convenience(speed) and companies placing their own products above the competitions(you can’t have google because your ISP is verizon).

How is not having access to the largest search engine in the world a “little loss of convenience”? Entire businesses depend on google. If I own a blog or a website and depend on ad revenue from google AdWords, how am I supposed to manage my account if my provider is Verizon (who owns yahoo and has decided to block google)?

You’ve been given countless examples of how this could potentially harm consumers. But you choose to ignore it and just parrot the stances of others when you clearly don’t understand the issue. Derp derp derp “Netflix and chill will be expensive” derp derp You’ve embarrassed yourself thoroughly in this thread.

No, you’ve embarrassed yourself. You want something for nothing. You want **** your way or no way.

If you’re so hung up on google and your ISP doesn’t carry it. Either switch to an ISP that does or move to an area that has an ISP that does. People move for work all of the time. Adjust or get left behind.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Wow...now people have to move. LOL

[br7knicks]

Ain’t that a bytch. I actually read it wrong at first and celebrated. Then saw “repeal” underneath the rest of the headline

same. i didn't read the repeal part either and got excited.

[br7knicks]

You pay for that commodity. So pay for it.
I pay for faster internet now. Nothing is changing except price(potentially) from BOTH the ISP’s and different services.

Now either you’re willing to pay or you’re not. Just like there’s people with cars and people who use public transportation. There is a price for every convenient commodity and that’s exactly what the internet is.

People are literally bitching about THE POSSIBILITY of waiting for **** to load or things buffering. Give me a damn break. You don’t wanna wait? Pay.

1) did you not hear people say that in certain places because of regulations they only have one option for internet provider? I dont mind a free market approach if it is truly a free market. The problem is in many places, there are regulations that prevent new companies from entering the market. 2) the problem with speed is that im already paying 100mbps but now time warner can slow that to 10mbps when im streaming netflix. They are likely to do that because 1- netflix does use alot of bandwidth and 2-netflix is a COMPETITOR. Most important of all, ISPs can even BLOCK competitors services entirely. This is not just POSSIBILITY. Verizon actually tried to Block alot of google services, like the use of google wallet.

I see this post went unanswered. Probably because there is no rational answer. And the American people made it clear where they stand on this issue. The FCC decided to ignore it.

yup. was just informed earlier that, soon, i won't be able to use my amazon fire stick to watch youtube because some sort of prissy fight between amazon and google

[rammagen]

No, it’s true.

As a matter of fact everything people are arguing for makes no sense to me. Literally mad at little loss of convenience(speed) and companies placing their own products above the competitions(you can’t have google because your ISP is verizon).

How is not having access to the largest search engine in the world a “little loss of convenience”? Entire businesses depend on google. If I own a blog or a website and depend on ad revenue from google AdWords, how am I supposed to manage my account if my provider is Verizon (who owns yahoo and has decided to block google)?

You’ve been given countless examples of how this could potentially harm consumers. But you choose to ignore it and just parrot the stances of others when you clearly don’t understand the issue. Derp derp derp “Netflix and chill will be expensive” derp derp You’ve embarrassed yourself thoroughly in this thread.

No, you’ve embarrassed yourself. You want something for nothing. You want **** your way or no way.

If you’re so hung up on google and your ISP doesn’t carry it. Either switch to an ISP that does or move to an area that has an ISP that does. People move for work all of the time. Adjust or get left behind.

Greenie I've embarrassed myself or cowboy hardly your the one flying off the f damn handle. You provided inaccurate information and it has been shown and proven. I don't want something People have proven that, the current price structure works and works well the isp 'sare not going broke this is money grab plain and simple you are either being hard headed or work for an ISP

[Greenie]

1) did you not hear people say that in certain places because of regulations they only have one option for internet provider? I dont mind a free market approach if it is truly a free market. The problem is in many places, there are regulations that prevent new companies from entering the market. 2) the problem with speed is that im already paying 100mbps but now time warner can slow that to 10mbps when im streaming netflix. They are likely to do that because 1- netflix does use alot of bandwidth and 2-netflix is a COMPETITOR. Most important of all, ISPs can even BLOCK competitors services entirely. This is not just POSSIBILITY. Verizon actually tried to Block alot of google services, like the use of google wallet.

I see this post went unanswered. Probably because there is no rational answer. And the American people made it clear where they stand on this issue. The FCC decided to ignore it.

yup. was just informed earlier that, soon, i won't be able to use my amazon fire stick to watch youtube because some sort of prissy fight between amazon and google

Amazon and Google are not ISP’s though.


That’s simply a fight between two companies.

[rammagen]

What would you like me to do about it?

Nothing but I am pointing out your argument is flawed your are looking like your supporting something that is not true

No, it’s true.

As a matter of fact everything people are arguing for makes no sense to me. Literally mad at little loss of convenience(speed) and companies placing their own products above the competitions(you can’t have google because your ISP is verizon).

ok let me explain this for the 50th time I pay less now then before net neutrality for better service simple yes, now with the repeal I will pay more for less and there is no competition.
And you are wrong the idea of a free market place you know capitalism depends on the free market place and the market place being regulated.
so tell us do you work for for an ISP I know I did when I when I started in IT. So please tease tell us how the internet works. Because according to you my 20 yrs in IT and 5 yrs at an ISP means I don't understand how the internet and the market place works

[br7knicks]

my problem was that, it was quite apparent, that the citizens don't want this, but it happened anyway. can we impeach those 3 republicans? or do we have to wait for them to be done with their term? hopefully they aren't voted back in by their constituents

[Greenie]

How is not having access to the largest search engine in the world a “little loss of convenience”? Entire businesses depend on google. If I own a blog or a website and depend on ad revenue from google AdWords, how am I supposed to manage my account if my provider is Verizon (who owns yahoo and has decided to block google)?

You’ve been given countless examples of how this could potentially harm consumers. But you choose to ignore it and just parrot the stances of others when you clearly don’t understand the issue. Derp derp derp “Netflix and chill will be expensive” derp derp You’ve embarrassed yourself thoroughly in this thread.

No, you’ve embarrassed yourself. You want something for nothing. You want **** your way or no way.

If you’re so hung up on google and your ISP doesn’t carry it. Either switch to an ISP that does or move to an area that has an ISP that does. People move for work all of the time. Adjust or get left behind.

Greenie I've embarrassed myself or cowboy hardly your the one flying off the f damn handle. You provided inaccurate information and it has been shown and proven. I don't want something People have proven that, the current price structure works and works well the isp 'sare not going broke this is money grab plain and simple you are either being hard headed or work for an ISP

The only one being hard headed is you.

I already said it’s about money. Guess you didn’t see that.

I said the ISP’s want more money from the big internet companies like Google, Amazon and Netflix. Guess you didn’t see that.

I said instead of them simply paying the ISP’s these big companies will simply charge more for their services. Guess you didn’t see that either.

I understand exactly what this is about. Life boils down to money. Either you can afford it or you can’t.

It’s precisely why I said Netflix and Chill will be expensive now. (For those that don’t understand what that means I literally saying Netflix will cost more money)

[Greenie]

Nothing but I am pointing out your argument is flawed your are looking like your supporting something that is not true

No, it’s true.

As a matter of fact everything people are arguing for makes no sense to me. Literally mad at little loss of convenience(speed) and companies placing their own products above the competitions(you can’t have google because your ISP is verizon).

ok let me explain this for the 50th time I pay less now then before net neutrality for better service simple yes, now with the repeal I will pay more for less and there is no competition.
And you are wrong the idea of a free market place you know capitalism depends on the free market place and the market place being regulated.
so tell us do you work for for an ISP I know I did when I when I started in IT. So please tease tell us how the internet works. Because according to you my 20 yrs in IT and 5 yrs at an ISP means I don't understand how the internet and the market place works

I don’t give a damn what you do. This is about money on your behalf too. You’re mad you will have to pay more for less. Welcome to the world as we know it.

As I said before people can either switch ISP’s or move to an area where their personal needs are met.

[Greenie]

my problem was that, it was quite apparent, that the citizens don't want this, but it happened anyway. can we impeach those 3 republicans? or do we have to wait for them to be done with their term? hopefully they aren't voted back in by their constituents

A lot of citizens don’t actually care about this. Why this was even in place is unknown to me and I can admit that.

All I know is that internet hasn’t changed much in the last 2 years. 2015/2014 was just fine. So was 2013, 2012, 2011 and so on. People acting like the world is burning because of this is bothersome more than anything.

[ccvle]

You are missing the point. Im entirely ok (not sure about other people view on this) that the ISPs charge more money and prioritize services IF it is truly a free market. The problem is on one hand the govt have regulations in place that prevent new service provider from entering the market. On the other hand the govt is letting the ISPs do what ever they want. The end result is because of all regulations, you now only have one option for ISP (two in my case) and that ISP can do what ever they want.

[rammagen]

No, it’s true.

As a matter of fact everything people are arguing for makes no sense to me. Literally mad at little loss of convenience(speed) and companies placing their own products above the competitions(you can’t have google because your ISP is verizon).

ok let me explain this for the 50th time I pay less now then before net neutrality for better service simple yes, now with the repeal I will pay more for less and there is no competition.
And you are wrong the idea of a free market place you know capitalism depends on the free market place and the market place being regulated.
so tell us do you work for for an ISP I know I did when I when I started in IT. So please tease tell us how the internet works. Because according to you my 20 yrs in IT and 5 yrs at an ISP means I don't understand how the internet and the market place works

I don’t give a damn what you do. This is about money on your behalf too. You’re mad you will have to pay more for less. Welcome to the world as we know it.

As I said before people can either switch ISP’s or move to an area where their personal needs are met.

Greenie can it your wrong and everyone knows, I don't give a damn other then letting you know that I know what I am talking about and you are wrong but to freaking stubborn to admit it

[rammagen]

No, you’ve embarrassed yourself. You want something for nothing. You want **** your way or no way.

If you’re so hung up on google and your ISP doesn’t carry it. Either switch to an ISP that does or move to an area that has an ISP that does. People move for work all of the time. Adjust or get left behind.

Greenie I've embarrassed myself or cowboy hardly your the one flying off the f damn handle. You provided inaccurate information and it has been shown and proven. I don't want something People have proven that, the current price structure works and works well the isp 'sare not going broke this is money grab plain and simple you are either being hard headed or work for an ISP

The only one being hard headed is you.

I already said it’s about money. Guess you didn’t see that.

I said the ISP’s want more money from the big internet companies like Google, Amazon and Netflix. Guess you didn’t see that.

I said instead of them simply paying the ISP’s these big companies will simply charge more for their services. Guess you didn’t see that either.

I understand exactly what this is about. Life boils down to money. Either you can afford it or you can’t.

It’s precisely why I said Netflix and Chill will be expensive now. (For those that don’t understand what that means I literally saying Netflix will cost more money)

the way everything has been read and stated by you looks like you support the repeal do you or don't you very simple question. IDGAF what, but to come here and argue with people that have then back track........sorry your're wrong, you stated open market we have choices for service blah freaking blah and the simple answer is that it is not a competitive market, and there is no viable reason to have prices raise for a lesser quality of service

[omerome]

my problem was that, it was quite apparent, that the citizens don't want this, but it happened anyway. can we impeach those 3 republicans? or do we have to wait for them to be done with their term? hopefully they aren't voted back in by their constituents

A lot of citizens don’t actually care about this. Why this was even in place is unknown to me and I can admit that.

All I know is that internet hasn’t changed much in the last 2 years. 2015/2014 was just fine. So was 2013, 2012, 2011 and so on. People acting like the world is burning because of this is bothersome more than anything.

I don't know where you get that a lot of citizens don't care about this. This has been a hot-button issue for a while. Everyone in my social circle is aware of this and I've read and watched plenty of videos about this since Trump nominated this Ajit as the chair.

Ajit has been very smug and frankly, acting like a douche while lying about the effect the repeal will do. The FCC even faked thousands of names in support of the repeal just to boost their support numbers; even people who are not even alive anymore. There is clear corruption here because Ajit himself is affiliated with the same ISPs who will benefit the most from this. According to several polls, the majority of Americans (both republican and democrat) have greatly opposed this and yet three people in the FCC decided to go against the wishes of the people.

This is not just about saying that the world is burning, but this is the start of where companies can now able to control content and that is entering dangerous territory; the start of censorship. This is companies essentially paying congressmen to pass beneficial legislation for themselves - at the expense of the American people. Basically, money over what's great for the country. That doesn't sound like a democracy to me.