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Markelle Fultz Discussion III: For Fultz and going forward (see 2017 draft thread for trade discussion)

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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion III 

Post#701 » by James40 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:43 pm

HartfordWhalers wrote:Lets keep this thread warning free for a week, and then all get ice cream sundays?


How about the rule breaker buying the Sundaes?

I wonder if Lloyd has that kinda money, oops did I type that out loud?, sorry.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion III 

Post#702 » by Mik317 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:56 pm

I do agree that enough is enough and if he is truly healthy he needs to be at the very **** least practicing soon.

I wish our beat guys would press them on that more but considering they are masters of spin that would be a waste of time too lol
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion III 

Post#703 » by Negrodamus » Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:00 pm

James40 wrote:
HartfordWhalers wrote:Lets keep this thread warning free for a week, and then all get ice cream sundays?


How about the rule breaker buying the Sundaes?

I wonder if Lloyd has that kinda money, oops did I type that out loud?, sorry.


Disagree with him all you want, but I can’t recollect him ever calling anyone a name or being inappropriate.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion III 

Post#704 » by James40 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:02 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
James40 wrote:
HartfordWhalers wrote:Lets keep this thread warning free for a week, and then all get ice cream sundays?


How about the rule breaker buying the Sundaes?

I wonder if Lloyd has that kinda money, oops did I type that out loud?, sorry.


Disagree with him all you want, but I can’t recollect him ever calling anyone a name or being inappropriate.


I should have used green font, I enjoy his posts about Fultz. Btw, I’ve never name called anyone on this forum.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion III 

Post#705 » by Negrodamus » Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:13 pm

Mik317 wrote:I do agree that enough is enough and if he is truly healthy he needs to be at the very **** least practicing soon.

I wish our beat guys would press them on that more but considering they are masters of spin that would be a waste of time too lol


I guarantee they are feverishly trying to fix his shot. There just isn’t any other explanation. I’d rather they come out and say that’s what they are doing rather than say he’s a healthy scratch.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion III 

Post#706 » by spikeslovechild » Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:19 pm

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Mik317 wrote:I do agree that enough is enough and if he is truly healthy he needs to be at the very **** least practicing soon.

I wish our beat guys would press them on that more but considering they are masters of spin that would be a waste of time too lol


I guarantee they are feverishly trying to fix his shot. There just isn’t any other explanation. I’d rather they come out and say that’s what they are doing rather than say he’s a healthy scratch.


There is nothing wrong with his shot.

I think people try to explain away BB and BC stupidity with logic.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion III 

Post#707 » by Negrodamus » Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:22 pm

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Negrodamus wrote:
Mik317 wrote:I do agree that enough is enough and if he is truly healthy he needs to be at the very **** least practicing soon.

I wish our beat guys would press them on that more but considering they are masters of spin that would be a waste of time too lol


I guarantee they are feverishly trying to fix his shot. There just isn’t any other explanation. I’d rather they come out and say that’s what they are doing rather than say he’s a healthy scratch.


There is nothing wrong with his shot.

I think people try to explain away BB and BC stupidity with logic.


Well there was something wrong with his shot last we saw of him, he has been declared healthy, so what is the explanation? Vacation?
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion III 

Post#708 » by spikeslovechild » Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:23 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
spikeslovechild wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
I guarantee they are feverishly trying to fix his shot. There just isn’t any other explanation. I’d rather they come out and say that’s what they are doing rather than say he’s a healthy scratch.


There is nothing wrong with his shot.

I think people try to explain away BB and BC stupidity with logic.


Well there was something wrong with his shot last we saw of him, he has been declared healthy, so what is the explanation? Vacation?


I don't have any answers for you. All I will say is upto the draft and SL his shot looked fine until the injury.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion III 

Post#709 » by Negrodamus » Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:26 pm

spikeslovechild wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
spikeslovechild wrote:
There is nothing wrong with his shot.

I think people try to explain away BB and BC stupidity with logic.


Well there was something wrong with his shot last we saw of him, he has been declared healthy, so what is the explanation? Vacation?


I don't have any answers for you. All I will say is upto the draft and SL his shot looked fine until the injury.


Right, and everything since has been awful. I’ll continue to believe that that’s the issue as long as he’s a “healthy scratch”.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion III 

Post#710 » by James40 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:27 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
spikeslovechild wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
I guarantee they are feverishly trying to fix his shot. There just isn’t any other explanation. I’d rather they come out and say that’s what they are doing rather than say he’s a healthy scratch.


There is nothing wrong with his shot.

I think people try to explain away BB and BC stupidity with logic.


Well there was something wrong with his shot last we saw of him, he has been declared healthy, so what is the explanation? Vacation?


According to the update on 12-9, increased strength training and maintenance. Does that mean he’s currently the janitor at the practice facility? Possibly.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion III 

Post#711 » by OFWGKTA » Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:33 pm

James40 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
spikeslovechild wrote:
There is nothing wrong with his shot.

I think people try to explain away BB and BC stupidity with logic.


Well there was something wrong with his shot last we saw of him, he has been declared healthy, so what is the explanation? Vacation?


According to the update on 12-9, increased strength training and maintenance. Does that mean he’s currently the janitor at the practice facility? Possibly.



Good move by BC. As a basketball player, you can get what, maybe 15 years out of him? As a janitor you guys can have him locked up for the next half century!
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion III 

Post#712 » by LongLiveHinkie » Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:55 am

Players being ready to play have nothing to do with BB or BC. It is all on the medical staff. The medical staff works with these guys, evaluates their readiness, and then tells BB and BC if they're ready to play and for how long. If they are, then they play. If they aren't, then they don't.

The one exception is if Scott O'Neil sticks his nose into matters and as their boss, demands players play for monetary and PR reasons. Other than that, it's all on the medical staff.

So the medical staff obviously in their working with Fultz has determined he isn't fit to see the court yet. We can all uselessly speculate as to why, none of it changes anything.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion III 

Post#713 » by Ettorefm » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:08 am

Several years with the same form, always an amazing shooter. College career? Amazing shooter

Pre-draft workouts? Great shooter. Summer league? Great shooting. Pre-season? Amazing shooter, from pull ups to long 3 pointers in NBa player's faces.

Suddenly an awful injury, and can't even make free throws or lift his arm.

Conclusion from Conspiracy Theorists? His shot is broken, he's a mental midget and Sixers are preventing him from playing so he doesn't embarass himself, as they already know he's a bust :lol: :lol:

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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion III 

Post#716 » by Negrodamus » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:19 am

Ettorefm wrote:Several years with the same form, always an amazing shooter. College career? Amazing shooter

Pre-draft workouts? Great shooter. Summer league? amazing shooter, from pull ups to long 3 pointers in NBa player's faces. Suddenly an injury, can't even make free throws or lift his arm.

Conclusion from Conspiracy Theorists? His shot is broken, he's a mental midget and Sixers are preventing him from playing so he doesn't embarass himself, as they already know he's a bust :lol: :lol:

You people are insane


I didn't say he's a "mental midget". The dude couldn't shoot before going out and now he's healthy.

“We are all going to go to the free-throw line and say, ‘Does it sort of pass the eye test?’ ” Brown said Thursday night. “He’s not there, yet. Everything is moving forward. But it’s not anything we are going to rush.”


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8 days later and no pain. Does that mean his shot is back? Why are we waiting 3 weeks? Why are they ushering Fultz off the court whenever the media enters the practice facility for Q and A? December 30th is the three week mark. Will we have any public Fultz appearances between now and then?

But I see you're one of those people on here that creates a persona to argue/make fun of to further some worthless point. No one is calling Fultz a bust.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion III 

Post#717 » by James40 » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:29 am

Ettorefm wrote:Several years with the same form, always an amazing shooter. College career? Amazing shooter

Pre-draft workouts? Great shooter. Summer league? Great shooting. Pre-season? Amazing shooter, from pull ups to long 3 pointers in NBa player's faces.

Suddenly an awful injury, and can't even make free throws or lift his arm.

Conclusion from Conspiracy Theorists? His shot is broken, he's a mental midget and Sixers are preventing him from playing so he doesn't embarass himself, as they already know he's a bust :lol: :lol:

You people are insane


Sounded like Stauskas, until you mentioned the injury.

Most of the Fultz stuff is in jest into how this team treats injured rookies, but why did he try to change his shot after summer league if all the other stuff is true?

Muscular imbalance is a weak argument for a lot of sports fans that realize most pitchers and QB’s have a muscular imbalance in their throwing shoulder. I get that obviously Fultz has a severe case, but damn, it’s going to be January soon.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion III 

Post#718 » by LongLiveHinkie » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:42 am

All of these questions have already been answered. They are rebuilding the strength in the shoulder with the training staff. Once they feel it is adequate, he will return to the court. Once he gets to the point where he feels "normal" again, he will return. And by "feels normal" I don't mean pain, I just mean feeling like himself. Feeling ready to return to an NBA court haven't sat on his rear end and not practiced or played NBA competitive ball in a couple months. They likely don't know how long it will take to return so just defaulted to a 3 week timeframe since they won't know he's ready until they know. It's up to his body and how he responds.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion III 

Post#719 » by Negrodamus » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:48 am

He's been doing physical therapy for the past 2 months. Isn't he strengthening that shoulder to alleviate the imbalance this entire time?

https://youtu.be/ZqcNNiEoY4k?t=1m9s
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Post#720 » by Simmons25 » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:52 am

Ettorefm wrote:Conclusion from Conspiracy Theorists? His shot is broken, he's a mental midget and Sixers are preventing him from playing so he doesn't embarass himself, as they already know he's a bust :lol: :lol:

You people are insane


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