2017-2018 OKC Thunder Regular Season Thread part one: The Fellowship for A Ring

[hardenASG13]

They play well once today and now we are all bandwagoners for being upset about how they have performed this season?!
Man its like you come on here to start arguements.

I understand the playoffs though. I understand how valueable Roberson becomes! Check last years playoffs for reference

They have won 8 of 11. Many on here look foolish for the doom and gloom, as They are not looking big picture at what matters to this team and where they currently stand, despite not playing to their potential. Yes, I come on here to discuss and debate basketball.....isnt that what this forum is for? I'd be happy to debate Robersons playoff performance in the Roberson thread, again, if you want.

[slick_watts]

They are going to be right in the 3/4/5 mix in the West.

...so? you can widen that a bit. mov gap between 3rd and 9th in the west right now is < 3.0 points. seeding doesn't tell me how good a team is. we can end up the 4th seed in this year's west and still only be marginally better than last season- which would be a failure to me. 4th seed wouldn't shock me or change my opinions, necessarily.

i'm less interested in absolute wins and losses and more interested in the strength of the team. your view on this is far too coarsely granular to be meaningful for me. i.e. saying we are 8-3 in the last 11 games contains less information on how the team is performing than saying what our mov is during that period. same as it was in the beginning of the year when we lost so many close games.

[Old Man Game]

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But hey, Ferguson is from Tulsa, such a great story.

[Bergmaniac]

Your offense is still really bad (in the last 10 games you are 24th in offensive efficiency) and the bench after the positive start has lately been embarrassingly bad on offense when Westbrook is resting (89.8 ORTG in the last 10 games when Westbrook is on the bench, -16.9 Net rating), so it's bit too early to celebrate IMO.

[thekaoswithin]

OKC are now #1 in DRtg per NBA.com at 100.8.

That's something?

[Kizz Fastfists]

We debated OG for months on this board. None of us believed he could actually shoot based on college. Either we were all VERY wrong or there is going to be a lot of regression coming for him. He looked like he was going to be another Roberson type of player. He was definitely in the discussion, at least on this board, and a lot of us thought we could take him and wouldn't have been upset about it. Do you really think he plays as well as he is if he is in OKC with Donovan "coaching" him?

[slick_watts]

ferguson has interesting upside i guess but taking him in the context of where our team is and what sam presti was building towards was strange. he couldn't get minutes in the australian d-league. most obvious non-ready prospect in the first round of the draft.

[bondom34]

I wasn't big on OG but literally the only guy I didn't want was Ferguson and at 21 OG was still a clear value pick at the time. Still can't understand the choice

[Kizz Fastfists]

ferguson has interesting upside i guess but taking him in the context of where our team is and what sam presti was building towards was strange. he couldn't get minutes in the australian d-league. most obvious non-ready prospect in the first round of the draft.

He was a starter in Austrailia for most of the season.

[Thundershock88]

I wasn't big on OG but literally the only guy I didn't want was Ferguson and at 21 OG was still a clear value pick at the time. Still can't understand the choice

I wanted Jawun Evans. We gave Ferguson the hometown favor.

[bondom34]

I wasn't big on OG but literally the only guy I didn't want was Ferguson and at 21 OG was still a clear value pick at the time. Still can't understand the choice

I wanted Jawun Evans. We gave Ferguson the hometown favor.

I kinda did too. I wasn't attached to anyone available but really didn't want Ferguson.

[Pillendreher]

OKC are now #1 in DRtg per NBA.com at 100.8.

That's something?

First in DRtG/A by 0.04 pp100p.

17th best DRtG for the Celtics over the last 15.

We're 4th.

[Zagor]

But hey, Ferguson is from Tulsa, such a great story.

Presti is quite bad in drafting since Mitch McGary pick. Like he is trying to be smarter than need to be.
In night of 2014 draft I tweeted on Royce Young profile that Presti could draft Capela, but Sam drafted [don't evade the language filter—AR] McGary.
Payne is a bust.
Ferguson has a potential, but it seems that OG and Kuzma were better choices.

[getrichordie]

But hey, Ferguson is from Tulsa, such a great story.

Presti is quite bad in drafting since Mitch McGary pick. Like he is trying to be smarter than need to be.
In night of 2014 draft I tweeted on Royce Young profile that Presti could draft Capela, but Sam drafted [don't evade the language filter—AR] McGary.
Payne is a bust.
Ferguson has a potential, but it seems that OG and Kuzma were better choices.

Problem is we didn’t have a real need for Kuzma or OG really. We had more of a need for back up point and back up 2-guard.

A lot of teams passed on Kuzma as well. Lakers didn’t even see him playing this well. OG was a gamble that looks like it paid off. To be honest, I definitely wanted us to draft Anunoby, Anigbogu, or that perfect small ball 5 that’s playing in Miami. Kind of pissed we passed on that dude. My biggest issue with Ferguson was his size. But if he can put on 15-20 lbs of muscle over the next couple of offseasons, I think he is going to look really nice.


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[Thundershock88]

But hey, Ferguson is from Tulsa, such a great story.

Presti is quite bad in drafting since Mitch McGary pick. Like he is trying to be smarter than need to be.
In night of 2014 draft I tweeted on Royce Young profile that Presti could draft Capela, but Sam drafted [don't evade the language filter—AR] McGary.
Payne is a bust.
Ferguson has a potential, but it seems that OG and Kuzma were better choices.

McGary would have been great if he kept his head on straight. I remember him getting a double double in 7 minutes one time. He showed flashes.

[RalphSampsonJr]

They play well once today and now we are all bandwagoners for being upset about how they have performed this season?!
Man its like you come on here to start arguements.

I understand the playoffs though. I understand how valueable Roberson becomes! Check last years playoffs for reference

They have won 8 of 11. Many on here look foolish for the doom and gloom, as They are not looking big picture at what matters to this team and where they currently stand, despite not playing to their potential. Yes, I come on here to discuss and debate basketball.....isnt that what this forum is for? I'd be happy to debate Robersons playoff performance in the Roberson thread, again, if you want.

For someone that only cares about offense i thought you would be more concerned with their poor offensive rating.
We are only winning games with our defense. We struggle to score 100 points most games.

[hardenASG13]

They play well once today and now we are all bandwagoners for being upset about how they have performed this season?!
Man its like you come on here to start arguements.

I understand the playoffs though. I understand how valueable Roberson becomes! Check last years playoffs for reference

They have won 8 of 11. Many on here look foolish for the doom and gloom, as They are not looking big picture at what matters to this team and where they currently stand, despite not playing to their potential. Yes, I come on here to discuss and debate basketball.....isnt that what this forum is for? I'd be happy to debate Robersons playoff performance in the Roberson thread, again, if you want.

For someone that only cares about offense i thought you would be more concerned with their poor offensive rating.
We are only winning games with our defense. We struggle to score 100 points most games.

Just because I don't like Andre Roberson, who is beyond limited offensively, doesn't mean I only care about offense. Grow up. He's a very polarizing player, in that he is playing in a league dominated by 3 point shooting, and is a 0 threat from deep.

[Old Man Game]

But hey, Ferguson is from Tulsa, such a great story.

Presti is quite bad in drafting since Mitch McGary pick. Like he is trying to be smarter than need to be.
In night of 2014 draft I tweeted on Royce Young profile that Presti could draft Capela, but Sam drafted [don't evade the language filter—AR] McGary.
Payne is a bust.
Ferguson has a potential, but it seems that OG and Kuzma were better choices.

McGary would have been great if he kept his head on straight. I remember him getting a double double in 7 minutes one time. He showed flashes.

I loved McGary's game but there's little question it was a strange pick. The off the court stuff and that the fact we were fairly deep at PF at that point (Serge, Nick). Not sure what Sam ever saw in him. Especially with Hood still on the board.

[bondom34]

Apparently Beasley really is turning into Durant.

[RalphSampsonJr]

They have won 8 of 11. Many on here look foolish for the doom and gloom, as They are not looking big picture at what matters to this team and where they currently stand, despite not playing to their potential. Yes, I come on here to discuss and debate basketball.....isnt that what this forum is for? I'd be happy to debate Robersons playoff performance in the Roberson thread, again, if you want.

For someone that only cares about offense i thought you would be more concerned with their poor offensive rating.
We are only winning games with our defense. We struggle to score 100 points most games.

Just because I don't like Andre Roberson, who is beyond limited offensively, doesn't mean I only care about offense. Grow up. He's a very polarizing player, in that he is playing in a league dominated by 3 point shooting, and is a 0 threat from deep.

Best defensive rating in the NBA. PG Melo and Russ all have some of the lowest shooting % in the league. Robes is more valuable than ever.
Aw sorry i didnt mean you dont only care about offense i meant to say that you dont understand defense. Two very different things