Markelle Fultz Discussion III: For Fultz and going forward (see 2017 draft thread for trade discussion)

[PhilasFinest]

So we’re problably looking at a minimum of two weeks before a return to the court? Especially if he isn’t really practicing with the team yet.

Dec 9 they said he has no more pain/issues.....will be addressed in 3 weeks.

So 3 weeks is 21 days(give or take a few)....so at the earliest were probably looking for an update on Dec 30. I am FULLY expecting the next update to say some non-sense like "he has progressed well through revamped treatment and increased basketball activities, he will start to practice with the team and his status will be updated in 2-3 weeks based on his progressions."

I think were looking at right before the AS break, if at all. The lack of updates is worrisome IMO. Scott O'neill would never pass up an opportunity to try and create buzz to sell a few extra tickets.

All Star break seems fair, right around it anyway. Anything long term after would probably mean the season.

Meh. IDK if the word "Fair" would come across my brain when trying to describe a Fultz return.

All star break is usually in the middle of Feb. If we have to wait essentially 2 more months for Fultz to return, we mine as well just red shirt his ass like others before, although at least they had legitimate injuries with concern for re-aggravtaion. They came out and said he was symptom free and without pain. It should NOT take 3+ months to return.

[the_process]

Awesome, we have two number one picks who can’t figure out which hand to shoot with. Pardon me while I go have a few shots of Clorox.

What are you even saying with this post? Do you even remember the situation? Are some of you guys bots?

No, just having fun. I fully expect to see Fultz become a serious contributor on this team in the near future, I just wish that future was a little more clearer.

By near future; you mean October 15th, 2018?

[Negrodamus]

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There's also the chance that the FO doesn't want to field the questions they received last season when Ben was dunking and running around on a foot that "wasn't ready yet". The only difference is that we aren't tanking nor are we trying to preserve Markelle's rookie season. So I have no idea why we don't see anything from him.

[LongLiveHinkie]

I just think it's lame for people to tell others when they should be playing. I've always considered telling other guys how hurt they should or shouldn't be against the bro code. We sometimes take for granted these guys are human beings and not gladiators and don't look at them as actual people. He's 19 years old. Give it time.

Btw, the Sixers are pretty much in a lose-lose here, because if he did come back sooner and re-aggravate the thing, the Sixers would get ripped for being horrible dealing with injuries again.

somehow, you have the longest leash on fultz, but the shortest on BB. fultz could be out for the season because of muscle imbalance and you still would come up with that weak ass bitch argument, "if hes not ready, hes not ready". let me guess, you loved the fultz-trade, amirite?

yall naive af, if you believe anything without a **** of grain of salt whatever this snaky organization announces..

every article i read about muscle imbalance, it was told you can continue with your regular practice. somehow, fultz is such a special prospect, this doesnt take effect for fultz. you could think a basketball player, whos main job is it, to shoot a basketball, would actually shoot a basketball. but no. either he doesnt, or he wont do it at the practice facility, where the dumb proletariat aka the fans, could see him. we all just wanna know whats going on, but we are left in dark once again, after all those prior examples in the past.

None of any of this matters though. As long as when he gets back he's the player everyone thought he was being #1 overall that's all that matters. Who cares if he gets back tomorrow or in February? It makes no difference whatsoever in our long-term future.

People just want to see him now and when they aren't getting their way they're throwing a hissy fit.

[PhilasFinest]

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There's also the chance that the FO doesn't want to field the questions they received last season when Ben was dunking and running around on a foot that "wasn't ready yet". The only difference is that we aren't tanking nor are we trying to preserve Markelle's rookie season. So I have no idea why we don't see anything from him.

They came out and said he was no longer injured....they never said that about Simmons.

If they are being secretive, why are the posting things like this?

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They want people excited and optimistic....yet there have been 0 signs of him doing actual basketball related activities. You mean to tell me they are posting videos of him doing lunges with dumbbells with excitement but are hiding him doing thunderous dunks and nailing jumpers behind the scenes?

[Mik317]

I just think it's lame for people to tell others when they should be playing. I've always considered telling other guys how hurt they should or shouldn't be against the bro code. We sometimes take for granted these guys are human beings and not gladiators and don't look at them as actual people. He's 19 years old. Give it time.

Btw, the Sixers are pretty much in a lose-lose here, because if he did come back sooner and re-aggravate the thing, the Sixers would get ripped for being horrible dealing with injuries again.

somehow, you have the longest leash on fultz, but the shortest on BB. fultz could be out for the season because of muscle imbalance and you still would come up with that weak ass bitch argument, "if hes not ready, hes not ready". let me guess, you loved the fultz-trade, amirite?

yall naive af, if you believe anything without a **** of grain of salt whatever this snaky organization announces..

every article i read about muscle imbalance, it was told you can continue with your regular practice. somehow, fultz is such a special prospect, this doesnt take effect for fultz. you could think a basketball player, whos main job is it, to shoot a basketball, would actually shoot a basketball. but no. either he doesnt, or he wont do it at the practice facility, where the dumb proletariat aka the fans, could see him. we all just wanna know whats going on, but we are left in dark once again, after all those prior examples in the past.

None of any of this matters though. As long as when he gets back he's the player everyone thought he was being #1 overall that's all that matters. Who cares if he gets back tomorrow or in February? It makes no difference whatsoever in our long-term future.

People just want to see him now and when they aren't getting their way they're throwing a hissy fit.

now if only you had this same approach when it comes to other things

[LongLiveHinkie]

somehow, you have the longest leash on fultz, but the shortest on BB. fultz could be out for the season because of muscle imbalance and you still would come up with that weak ass bitch argument, "if hes not ready, hes not ready". let me guess, you loved the fultz-trade, amirite?

yall naive af, if you believe anything without a **** of grain of salt whatever this snaky organization announces..

every article i read about muscle imbalance, it was told you can continue with your regular practice. somehow, fultz is such a special prospect, this doesnt take effect for fultz. you could think a basketball player, whos main job is it, to shoot a basketball, would actually shoot a basketball. but no. either he doesnt, or he wont do it at the practice facility, where the dumb proletariat aka the fans, could see him. we all just wanna know whats going on, but we are left in dark once again, after all those prior examples in the past.

None of any of this matters though. As long as when he gets back he's the player everyone thought he was being #1 overall that's all that matters. Who cares if he gets back tomorrow or in February? It makes no difference whatsoever in our long-term future.

People just want to see him now and when they aren't getting their way they're throwing a hissy fit.

now if only you had this same approach when it comes to other things

Yeah, shame on me for being angry that the Sixers have lost to 4 of the 5 worst teams in the NBA in the last 2 weeks. I'm asking too much for my coach to have them ready to win one of those games.

Brett Brown really has it super hard here. Having a transcendent rookie, one of the NBA's all-time best 3 point shooters added to his roster, one of the most talented big men in NBA history, a really good 3 and D guy, a Croatian who had a great rookie season. To ask him to prepare his team just beat one horrible team in the last 2 weeks and not be two Embiid last second free throws away from losing 8 games in a row is just asking way too much. From now on I'm gonna be fair to him. If he can just get us to one win in January then poor Brett will get a nice big round of applause from me.

Don't worry, Brett, you already filled your December win quota. You can lose out and all is ok, because you just weren't given enough to even construct a team that looks competent on the floor. Get us one win in the month of January and I'll be satisfied!

[BullyKing]

so this then confirms the dude is NOT EVEN FREAKING PRACTICING!!!!

LMAOOOOO how does silver not step in and put an end to this criminally incompetent BS?

god I legit am finding myself hating this team and organization rather than actually rooting for them after the lies and shady **** these last few years

not sure how much more I can take being **** on as a fan

Then stop rooting for the team. You're literally just trying to find things to be outraged about. No, this doesn't confirm that he is "NOT EVEN FREAKING PRACTICING!!!!" Shoot around is just a very small portion of the practice, the majority of which is not open to the media. You have no idea whether he is practicing or not. The only thing we do know is that he is not participating in the 5-5 portions, which is what would require him to be made available to the media.

which mean's he isnt returning at the end of this 3 week period, and he will be held out even LONGER, when hes already been declared 100% healthy

but please, tell me more about how we know nothing and how the team obviously is doing the right thing based off all their past history

No one is going to say this situation was handled properly. But you honestly sound like you're having a breakdown over how the team is playing. So I am saying this honestly and sincerely - take a couple weeks away from the team. In each of the last few seasons, I found myself getting way too overly frustrated by the team's performance. So I just chilled out for a couple weeks and felt a ton better.

[ivysixer2000]

Then stop rooting for the team. You're literally just trying to find things to be outraged about. No, this doesn't confirm that he is "NOT EVEN FREAKING PRACTICING!!!!" Shoot around is just a very small portion of the practice, the majority of which is not open to the media. You have no idea whether he is practicing or not. The only thing we do know is that he is not participating in the 5-5 portions, which is what would require him to be made available to the media.

which mean's he isnt returning at the end of this 3 week period, and he will be held out even LONGER, when hes already been declared 100% healthy

but please, tell me more about how we know nothing and how the team obviously is doing the right thing based off all their past history

No one is going to say this situation was handled properly. But you honestly sound like you're having a breakdown over how the team is playing. So I am saying this honestly and sincerely - take a couple weeks away from the team. In each of the last few seasons, I found myself getting way too overly frustrated by the team's performance. So I just chilled out for a couple weeks and felt a ton better.

You name yourself Krazy for a reason.

For every blind homer you need a dude that gets mad that they wore the wrong color of socks to practice. Who you think booed Santa Claus....bet Krazy was involved.

Nah he does have a point though, most of the time we should know something these days, even if he repeats it. Am I going to rant about it all day, nah, as I got older my anger decreased about stuff like this. Ask me how mad I was about trading for Deke back in the day, only to see Shaq dunk on him time after time. Or Larry Hughes, Tim Thomas....yeah, that was pure anger, but it passes.

[James40]

which mean's he isnt returning at the end of this 3 week period, and he will be held out even LONGER, when hes already been declared 100% healthy

but please, tell me more about how we know nothing and how the team obviously is doing the right thing based off all their past history

No one is going to say this situation was handled properly. But you honestly sound like you're having a breakdown over how the team is playing. So I am saying this honestly and sincerely - take a couple weeks away from the team. In each of the last few seasons, I found myself getting way too overly frustrated by the team's performance. So I just chilled out for a couple weeks and felt a ton better.

You name yourself Krazy for a reason.

For every blind homer you need a dude that gets mad that they wore the wrong color of socks to practice. Who you think booed Santa Claus....bet Krazy was involved.

Nah he does have a point though, most of the time we should know something these days, even if he repeats it. Am I going to rant about it all day, nah, as I got older my anger decreased about stuff like this. Ask me how mad I was about trading for Deke back in the day, only to see Shaq dunk on him time after time. Or Larry Hughes, Tim Thomas....yeah, that was pure anger, but it passes.[/quote

The updates we have been given vs the updates the Celtics have given on Gordon Heyward couldn’t have been more different. A little more transparency by the Sixers would have been nice.


I believe who has had it right from the beginning of this current thread is LongLiveHinkie, sometime in mid January Fultz will be on the court. All of the speculation will be over and we’ll finally be able to gauge this team as a whole with its core finally playing together.

[ivysixer2000]

No one is going to say this situation was handled properly. But you honestly sound like you're having a breakdown over how the team is playing. So I am saying this honestly and sincerely - take a couple weeks away from the team. In each of the last few seasons, I found myself getting way too overly frustrated by the team's performance. So I just chilled out for a couple weeks and felt a ton better.

You name yourself Krazy for a reason.

For every blind homer you need a dude that gets mad that they wore the wrong color of socks to practice. Who you think booed Santa Claus....bet Krazy was involved.

Nah he does have a point though, most of the time we should know something these days, even if he repeats it. Am I going to rant about it all day, nah, as I got older my anger decreased about stuff like this. Ask me how mad I was about trading for Deke back in the day, only to see Shaq dunk on him time after time. Or Larry Hughes, Tim Thomas....yeah, that was pure anger, but it passes.

It’s really about the info the Sixers have given out concerning Fultz, and with the constant Gordon Heyward updates of good news.

Thankfully it won’t happen but imagine Heyward getting on the court before Fultz, that would be a disaster.

I believe who has had it right from the beginning of this current thread is LongLiveHinkie, sometime in mid January Fultz will be on the court. All of the speculation will be over and we’ll finally be able to gauge this team as a whole with its core finally playing together.

Well thats an unfortunate conclusion that I really don't wanna say myself. There is noway he will be back in December, not matter how long this thread goes and we curse at each other about it. Mid-January is the earliest, depending on how we are in the standings....yeah I added that too.

He does look more fit in that video above, thats good, maybe he is laying off the fast food. Usually no news is good news, but in this case not so much especially with this team.

Its like the hot girl that tells you they will go out with you, but it takes 3 months before it happens. Friends of mine have waited for 2-3 years on a hot girl, ala Embiid.....I'm not that patient. But at the end of the day, all we can do is be patient and not punch a brick wall, your computer, or something else crazy.

[joyeuxnoel]

this board is so toxic lol

[Negrodamus]

this board is so toxic lol

What does that mean? None of us work for the Sixers and no one on the Sixers care about what we think. If you don’t like a running opinion from someone, you can block them.

[JojoSlimbiid]

Find it interesting what people will or won't believe from the organization when it comes to players they have specific agendas for or against.

This whole Embiid thing recently plus the stuff before the season hell you can even include the "bone bruise" as well has shown me a funny line of thinking amongst a lot of posters. In these situations once everything got revealed and in some cases even before the actual facts came out it's "Colangelo is a snake", "he's a liar", "I want off the Colangelo ride.", "He knew Ben would never play this year and strung us along for ticket sales", etc,etc

When it comes to Fultz though everything Colangelo says is true. "No structural damage", "he messed up his own shot", "he's 100 healthy",etc. Now it's the player who is a mental midget and lying but Colangelo is all of the sudden a viable source of the truth. Interesting stuff

[KrazySixersD]

Why is it toxic? People disagree with one another thats what message boards are for. I dont care what others think of me personally nor should anyone else. Why people feel the need to start talking about me or others personally is always humerous to me.. like they got nothing to come back with so they resort to that.

I come here for sixers discussion. I hate watching incompetent **** on the court and right noe thats all there is on the court for the sixers unfortunately

No need to tell me how bad my life must be and how I need a break lol. My life is **** great if my biggest problem is the sixers, which luckily enough for me is the case right now, then Im fine with that!

[KramerDSP]

One thing about Fultz that is bugging me. I have arena view for league pass and I can see the huddles during timeouts. Fultz never pays attention to what Brown is saying to the players in the huddle. I get that he is a kid but I also feel Carson Wentz would be in the huddles and learning every chance he gets.

[Negrodamus]

Find it interesting what people will or won't believe from the organization when it comes to players they have specific agendas for or against.

This whole Embiid thing recently plus the stuff before the season hell you can even include the "bone bruise" as well has shown me a funny line of thinking amongst a lot of posters. In these situations once everything got revealed and in some cases even before the actual facts came out it's "Colangelo is a snake", "he's a liar", "I want off the Colangelo ride.", "He knew Ben would never play this year and strung us along for ticket sales", etc,etc

When it comes to Fultz though everything Colangelo says is true. "No structural damage", "he messed up his own shot", "he's 100 healthy",etc. Now it's the player who is a mental midget and lying but Colangelo is all of the sudden a viable source of the truth. Interesting stuff

I'm sorry, but what?

Are you suggesting that because this organization has proven to be untrustworthy that EVERY comment they make should be considered a lie? And what a strange list of things we should be questioning. "No structural damage"? That's not Colangelo, that's the doctors stating that. Not only the team doctors, but the world renown shoulder expert in Lexington.

Just another false equivalence.

[JojoSlimbiid]

Why would someone believe in someone or something that has demonstrated themselves to be proven liar's? That seems quite frankly dumb as hell. You'd only believe that if it already confirms whatever narrative you do or don't have about a particular situation. Other wise why the hell would you believe someone who has repeatedly lied and told half truths? Why are these even questions that I have to pose?

I haven't seen or heard an interview with Ben Kliber or the physicians that work for the 76ers. I've seen Colangelo speak on their behalf and utter things that they've could of possibly said to him or not though so take that how you wish. Just find it interesting when we do or don't believe in an organization that has been shady as **** with the truth for as long as I can remember.

[Broxton]

One thing about Fultz that is bugging me. I have arena view for league pass and I can see the huddles during timeouts. Fultz never pays attention to what Brown is saying to the players in the huddle. I get that he is a kid but I also feel Carson Wentz would be in the huddles and learning every chance he gets.

This is not good. He should be soaking up everything he can. I personally think he is not hurt and they are hiding him because he has the yips. Hope I'm wrong but it been 2 months....come on man.

[Negrodamus]

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Could you imagine, as a doctor, that a CEO of a company lied about your diagnosis for the general public to consume? Running the risk of a misdiagnosis and putting your entire reputation on the line? Yea, neither can I.