Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

MKG & Frank for Kent Bazemore?

[ammofan]

maybe after they signed PG, but they would be mad to do it now when Ingram is starting to look good

I bet Magic would do it regardless. I have a strong feeling that Magic loves Kemba and could be hoodwinked on a deal.

something around Isaac? can't see them trading Gordon.

Isaac and Payton works, but its not overly exciting. (saying that, after checking Isaac's college videos, he seems like a longer, younger MKG but can already hit the corner 3. )

I think I prefer french frank.

But really why would we even want Gordon? Where does that put us? Same for Payton/Issac/anyone else on ORL.

Keeping Kemba seems like the obvious choice. He's going to end up being our all time leading scorer and the GOAT Hornet. That has more value than some random young guys that we'd acquire just because we aren't a good team at the moment.

[HornetJail]

MKG & Frank for Kent Bazemore?

... what does that accomplish? Bazemore is 4.5 years older, 50% more expensive, and isn't likely to opt out of the final year of it, which makes it run a year longer than MKG.

And he's a worse player

[Diop]

I bet Magic would do it regardless. I have a strong feeling that Magic loves Kemba and could be hoodwinked on a deal.

something around Isaac? can't see them trading Gordon.

Isaac and Payton works, but its not overly exciting. (saying that, after checking Isaac's college videos, he seems like a longer, younger MKG but can already hit the corner 3. )

I think I prefer french frank.

But really why would we even want Gordon? Where does that put us? Same for Payton/Issac/anyone else on ORL.

Keeping Kemba seems like the obvious choice. He's going to end up being our all time leading scorer and the GOAT Hornet. That has more value than some random young guys that we'd acquire just because we aren't a good team at the moment.

Yeah I’d prefer keeping kemba, just playing with the idea of completely blowing the team up

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

Nic Batum to the Pelicans for Solomon Hill, Omer Asik, and some sort of pick compensation (swap rights, low first, etc).

Asik is terrible, but the team needs more C depth. Hill is out this year, but can provide either depth or trade options next year.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

The Nic to Utah for Favors and Joe Johnson deal mentioned above works for me too.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

Nic and MCW to Orlando for Biyombo and Augustin ... though I've got to wonder if DJ would report.

[stinger14]

The Nic to Utah for Favors and Joe Johnson deal mentioned above works for me too.

Like this as well

[Diop]

The Nic to Utah for Favors and Joe Johnson deal mentioned above works for me too.

Like this as well

I think we would probably have to add something, I offered frank on their forum to try and get them interested.

[Radu_Hornets]

Nic will take the lead of the second unit, you'll see when cody is back how good things gonna be

[JDR720]

Im all about the favors deal, wouldn't do the others though.

[Braggins]

I still want to see Frank playing center in a better situation, but that Utah deal seems really nice. Hood is better than Batum and much younger. We might be able to get away with paying him less when we resign him due to the market not being as insane as when we signed Batum.

I would try to get Rubio instead of Favors and would try to keep Frank. Would it be worth it to risk trading some pick action (two 2nds or 2019 1st with some protection?) to keep Frank? We might be able to pull off a quick turnaround with something like this and adding a top 5 pick after tanking out the season, whatever we can get for Howard, and a new coach.

Getting Hood and getting rid of Howard could have a ripple effect with our lineup (Kemba/Lamb/Hood/Marv/Cody). MKG would probably look a lot better playing a faster pace game as a poor mans Igoudala playing backup PF and wing. Frank probably looks a lot better as a backup center playing with MKG a lot as well as some part time PF. Rubio fits really well with Monk and would help bolster our defense along with MKG, which would be a bit lacking in the starting lineup, and is a good fit with Monk. Graham and Bacon and our lotto pick (hopefully top 5) fill in the gaps.

Kemba/Rubio
Lamb/Monk
Hood/Graham/Bacon
Marv/MKG
Cody/Frank/Bamba or Ayton or JJ maybe?

[JDR720]

Nic and Bacon or Graham for Paul George

Paul isn't staying in okc, so they get a replacement who fits well and a cheap depth player.

We do it to get out of nics contract, Paul isn't staying here either.

[chellis]

Nic and Bacon or Graham for Paul George

Paul isn't staying in okc, so they get a replacement who fits well and a cheap depth player.

We do it to get out of nics contract, Paul isn't staying here either.

I know we keep spitting a very similar idea around for PG, but does anybody really believe OKC takes on Batum’s salary in this deal?

[316Hornets]

Nic and Bacon or Graham for Paul George

Paul isn't staying in okc, so they get a replacement who fits well and a cheap depth player.

We do it to get out of nics contract, Paul isn't staying here either.

I know we keep spitting a very similar idea around for PG, but does anybody really believe OKC takes on Batum’s salary in this deal?

OKC could see them being in a tough position to get superstars to play with Westbrook because of the market. They'll probably spend whatever to keep that team a treadmilling playoff team. If they know PG is walking, not sure they'll get any better offers.

[dmutombo321]

Nic and Bacon or Graham for Paul George

Paul isn't staying in okc, so they get a replacement who fits well and a cheap depth player.

We do it to get out of nics contract, Paul isn't staying here either.

They probably counter with Carmelo Anthony, whose contract doesnt expire until after next season.
Even then that might be the best deal they can find to get out of Batum's contract. He'll be earning 27mil/year in the later years of that deal and its really the greatest impediment towards rebuilding.

Lots of good Re-build trade ideas here lately.

People have also tossed around variations of Favors and Burks from the Jazz for Batum. I doubt they part with Hood but I still like that deal better for unloading Batum.
Favors drops off after this season and they'd just have burks earning around $11 mil next year before he is done too.

Follow that up with the proposed deal pitching Kemba to PHX for Monroe's expiring, Dragan Bender (or Chriss) and Phoenix's first. Kemba's going to be due an extension after next season and the prospect of singing a 5'11 PG on the eve of 30 years of age to a 5 yr, $150 million extension should frighten everybody. I love Kemba, he's the face of the mediocre franchise, but he's a second or third option on a good team. Bender would be a fine PF/Center prospect for the rebuild and PHX's first will likely fall int he 5-10 range. Charlotte could try to pry the Miami first away from them too in such a deal, although that's probably pushing it.

Then, as the final maneuver, someone suggested approaching Milwaukee about Dwight and Marvin for Jabari / Henson / Delly.
Gordon/Middleton/Giannis/Marv/Dwight would appeal to Milwaukee as it could push them over the top this year. For Charlotte, they could test drive Jabari next year under his qualifier to see how the knee holds up. If he stays healthy and builds on where he left off before he got hurt (20/6/3 on 50% shooting),they have a 22yo franchise player and the cap room to sign him to a max contract. If he never bounces back, they let him walk and only gave up two 30somethings who werent in their future plans.

In a year or two, they could potentially look something like

Trae Young (Phx pick) / Monk / Delly
Bacon / Burks /Monk
Jabari / MKG
Bender (or Frank depending on who wins the job)
Ayton / Zeller / Henson

[chellis]

Nic and Bacon or Graham for Paul George

Paul isn't staying in okc, so they get a replacement who fits well and a cheap depth player.

We do it to get out of nics contract, Paul isn't staying here either.

I know we keep spitting a very similar idea around for PG, but does anybody really believe OKC takes on Batum’s salary in this deal?

OKC could see them being in a tough position to get superstars to play with Westbrook because of the market. They'll probably spend whatever to keep that team a treadmilling playoff team. If they know PG is walking, not sure they'll get any better offers.

Eh, idk if they’re willing to roll at or above the cap and/or tax threshold for it honestly. That’s just my POV, and maybe I’m wrong. I just don’t see them going for it. Westbrook, Adams, Melo (assuming opt in), and Batum all $20M+ of their cap. If they want to then I’m all on board.

[catch20two]

But we know PG13 don’t wanna play for Charlotte. He’s bolting for LA in the summer. I’d imagine there being a 3rd team, possibly the Lakers where we get Julius Randle or something with a bad contract if this trade happen.

[catch20two]

If Cho can flip Batum into Randle and Clarkson then he can keep his job.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

If Cho can flip Batum into Randle and Clarkson then he can keep his job.

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