Case Keenum

[Ballerhogger]

Probably get 23mill a year

[laika]

Nick Foles was a lot better than Keenum. Fluke years happen sometimes. The salary cap is strict enough that you can only afford to bet on one QB. I would still take Bridgewater unless you think he will have chronic injury problems.

Nick Foles was never, ever better than Keenum's been this year. Foles was the product of an unseen system in the NFL. Keenum is taking the basic offense that's been seen many times before, and is excelling in it, because for the first time in his career he's actually got a + pass blocking OL. He's basically this generation's Doug Flutie - a guy who was totally passed over for his height and perceived lack of athleticism.

Teddy two gloves has been nothing but a game manager up to this point in his career. And from what I remember, a healthy Teddy had a hard time fighting the elements, and had minimal ability to go vertical.

Keenum right now is better than Teddy has ever been. And he's actually breathed life into a very vanilla passing game. Teddy might wind up being a starter somewhere in the Alex Smith mold, but if the Vikings walk away from Keenum, they deserve their fate.

27 TD, 2 INT and 9.1 YPA is massively better than 20 TD, 7 INT and 7.5 YPA. I don't care how much you believe in systems. Your post is indefensible.

[Sedale Threatt]

You can argue about Foles -- that's a great season, no matter what -- but the fact is that Keenum's already playing at a level that we have no idea Bridgewater can even get to. Could it just be a fluke? Of course; pro sports is littered with one-season wonders, including Foles. From our own history, Wade Wilson is another one.

On the flipside, you also have players like Rich Gannon, Tony Romo and the aforementioned Flutie who overcame major doubts/obstacles to become franchise quarterbacks. (EDIT: Flutie is probably a stretch.) Hell, even Drew Brees had to prove himself. But by all accounts Keenum is the ultimate professional, who studies his ass off and is an extremely young 29 given the fact he's hardly played.

It's a risk given his lack of history and pedigree, but there's no way you can let somebody who has played that well, at such a critical position, just walk. Especially in favor of a player who has been on the sideline for two seasons and, his obvious youth notwithstanding, never looked this good.

[FNQ]

Nick Foles was a lot better than Keenum. Fluke years happen sometimes. The salary cap is strict enough that you can only afford to bet on one QB. I would still take Bridgewater unless you think he will have chronic injury problems.

Nick Foles was never, ever better than Keenum's been this year. Foles was the product of an unseen system in the NFL. Keenum is taking the basic offense that's been seen many times before, and is excelling in it, because for the first time in his career he's actually got a + pass blocking OL. He's basically this generation's Doug Flutie - a guy who was totally passed over for his height and perceived lack of athleticism.

Teddy two gloves has been nothing but a game manager up to this point in his career. And from what I remember, a healthy Teddy had a hard time fighting the elements, and had minimal ability to go vertical.

Keenum right now is better than Teddy has ever been. And he's actually breathed life into a very vanilla passing game. Teddy might wind up being a starter somewhere in the Alex Smith mold, but if the Vikings walk away from Keenum, they deserve their fate.

27 TD, 2 INT and 9.1 YPA is massively better than 20 TD, 7 INT and 7.5 YPA. I don't care how much you believe in systems. Your post is indefensible.

Being a better QB > having better numbers

You are talking fantasy, I’m talking reality. Foles got wide open WRs, Keenum is creating legit offense. Foles was fools gold and anyone watching the Eagles knew it

[Celtsfan1980]

Alex Smith goes to Minnesota. Taylor to Cleveland. Keenum to the Jets. Cousins to San Fransisco. Jimmy G. traded to Washington.

[Cactus Jack]

Alex Smith goes to Minnesota. Taylor to Cleveland. Keenum to the Jets. Cousins to San Fransisco. Jimmy G. traded to Washington.

Yeah, I don't think that would fly in SF. Jimmy is reaching god-like status there atm.

Is Alex Smith that much of an upgrade over what they already have in Minny? I see Denver as a good landing spot for him.

Cousins stays in Washington. Jimmy G gets a fat contract from the Niners this offseason.

[FNQ]

Alex Smith goes to Minnesota. Taylor to Cleveland. Keenum to the Jets. Cousins to San Fransisco. Jimmy G. traded to Washington.

Yeah, I don't think that would fly in SF. Jimmy is reaching god-like status there atm.

Is Alex Smith that much of an upgrade over what they already have in Minny? I see Denver as a good landing spot for him.

Cousins stays in Washington. Jimmy G gets a fat contract from the Niners this offseason.

Keenum re-ups in Minnesota, as does Teddy on a 1 year deal

Alex Smith is traded to Buffalo

Tyrod Taylor signs with the Dolphins

Cousins stays in Washington, finally gets paid

Jimmy G of course stays in SF, they didnt trade for him to flip him. Likely franchised at first, but they will pay him

Eli Manning is traded to Jacksonville for a day 2 pick or 2

Browns draft Rosen #1

Giants draft Lamar Jackson

Broncos trade up to #4 and draft Baker Mayfield

Sam Bradford retires.

[laika]

Nick Foles was a lot better than Keenum. Fluke years happen sometimes. The salary cap is strict enough that you can only afford to bet on one QB. I would still take Bridgewater unless you think he will have chronic injury problems.

Well that turned out to be a pretty ironic comment. Foles destroys Keenum in their matchup. Sure it's just one game, but the Vikings have to feel a little queasy about throwing 20 million a year at Keenum. Fun fact- Keenum is a year older than Foles.

[FNQ]

Foles played a great game, but putting this loss on Keenum is boxscore watching

The Eagles destroyed the Vikings on both lines. Keenum *never* saw pressure like that all season. The running game was stuck in the mud, and Keenum became a checkdown QB because both Thielen and Diggs were limping around the field. And I've never seen the Vikings pass rush contained this well all season. The Eagles just outplayed them in every facet of the game.

Per PFF, Keenum had almost a full 2 seconds LESS to throw than he did on average the rest of the season.. and their backup T gave up 9 pressures himself. Maybe Keenum is a system QB, but that system woefully let him down yesterday, but it took a lot of factors to do so. Meanwhile the Eagles offense, especially their OL, was clicking so well. They do that against the Pats, they will win.

[RavenMad31]

Nick Foles was a lot better than Keenum. Fluke years happen sometimes. The salary cap is strict enough that you can only afford to bet on one QB. I would still take Bridgewater unless you think he will have chronic injury problems.

Well that turned out to be a pretty ironic comment. Foles destroys Keenum in their matchup. Sure it's just one game, but the Vikings have to feel a little queasy about throwing 20 million a year at Keenum. Fun fact- Keenum is a year older than Foles.

The Vikings have gotten a look at Keenum's ceiling in a situation where almost everything worked in their favor. I think they have to show some cautiously optimistic commitment to Bridgewater going forward. If Bradford wants to hang around at a reasonably priced insurance policy, that's fine. They should just let Keenum walk. It was a fun season and Keenum played out of his mind for Case Keenum, but that's likely just about as good as it gets and getting stomped in the NFC Championship game isn't going to be their ultimate goal going into 2018.

[Otis Driftwood]

If I'm the Vikings, I'm finding a way to keep Teddy and Keenum and letting Bradford move on. Let them compete... with the hope that Teddy is ready to go and Keenum serves as a quality #2. Bradford is nothing more than another injury waiting to happen.

[hermes]

with the season he had, keenum shouldn't settle for a backup gig. with so many teams looking for qbs he would get a starting job somewhere for sure

[inquisitive]

if he becomes a starter somewhere, he will get at least 10mil/yr

[FNQ]

if he becomes a starter somewhere, he will get at least 10mil/yr

Definitely. All starters pull that. And he should get that from someone

[hermes]

if $10 million is all that it takes to get case then i for sure want him back on the vikes

[inquisitive]

if $10 million is all that it takes to get case then i for sure want him back on the vikes

i haven't followed the vikings, but what the heck has happened to bridgewater? wasn't he the starter before he got hurt a couple of years ago

[inquisitive]

if he becomes a starter somewhere, he will get at least 10mil/yr

Definitely. All starters pull that. And he should get that from someone

btw, when he was in college, he lived in the same apartment complex as my cousin. she said his apartment was an efficiency with $600/mo rent. he and his gf/wife at the time were struggling. he has come a long long way.

[hermes]

if $10 million is all that it takes to get case then i for sure want him back on the vikes

i haven't followed the vikings, but what the heck has happened to bridgewater? wasn't he the starter before he got hurt a couple of years ago

yeah he was the starter, then his knee completely exploded and he hasn't really played in two years