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Game 15: Queens at Lambeau 7:20 PM

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Game 15: Queens at Lambeau 7:20 PM 

Post#1 » by MickeyDavis » Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:16 am

Been a LONG time since we played a meaningless game. It sucks.

TEAMS: Green Bay Packers (7-7) vs. Minnesota Vikings (11-3).

WHEN: 7:30 p.m. Saturday.

WHERE: Lambeau Field.

TV: NBC.

RADIO: AM-620 in Milwaukee, AM-1360 in Green Bay; Packers Radio Network.

SERIES: Packers lead, 59-51-2.

LINE: Vikings by 9.

WEATHER: Partly cloudy, low of 4 degrees.

SURFACE: Grass.

COACHES: Green Bay’s Mike McCarthy (131-76-1) vs. Vikings' Mike Zimmer (37-26-0).



ROSTERS, STATS: Packers | Vikings
5 THINGS TO WATCH

SEEKING CONSISTENCY: Around the NFL, rookie punter Justin Vogel has caught the eye of players and coaches. How else do you explain Vogel being a Pro Bowl alternate? Although Vogel ranks fourth in net average (42.6), the coaches are reluctant to heap praise on him for a couple of reasons. First, the Packers’ coverage units are outstanding. Receiver Jeff Janis is almost unstoppable as a gunner and continually forces fair catches. Second, Vogel leaves the ball in the middle of the field too often. Directional punting is essential in the NFL and he needs to improve in that skill. “I've said this before, he's still got to become more and more consistent, which he will,” special teams coach Ron Zook said. “I think that's the great thing, he's been able to do some really, really good things and being a rookie.”

SAFETY LAST: When the Packers assess their season, they’re going to lament the lack of production they got from their three top safeties, Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, Morgan Burnett and Josh Jones. They have combined for only four interceptions, two sacks, one forced fumble and zero fumble recoveries. They have been responsible for five passing touchdowns. Considering the three have played a combined 1,873 snaps, that’s a season full of just taking up space. The Vikings watched the Carolina game and probably are wondering whether they could put up 42 points. “Our guys are working their butts off and (I) have no issues with their work ethic,” safeties coach Darren Perry said. “We’ve just got to get a little better results and we’ve just got to keep plugging away.”

BIEGEL TIME: With Nick Perry (ankle/shoulder) doubtful and Clay Matthews (hamstring) questionable, it’s likely that rookie outside linebacker Vince Biegel will see a lot of action Saturday night. The most snaps Biegel has played in a game is 22 against Pittsburgh. The coaches already think they know what they have with their fourth-round pick. “I’m excited about Vince,” outside linebackers coach Winston Moss said. “Every single game, every single day, little better, little closer, stepping his game up. I feel confident he’s going to be a person that pays off. He’s going to definitely make it in this league.”

HOME WRECKER: Backup quarterback Brett Hundley is 1-3 and has yet to throw for a touchdown in four starts at Lambeau Field this season. He has completed 73 of 122 passes (59.8 percent) for 655 yards and five interceptions. His passer rating is 57.2. On the road, Hundley is 2-1 and has completed 88 of 130 passes (67.7 percent) for 879 yards and eight touchdowns with three interceptions (97.6 rating). It’s going to be tough to turn that trend around against the Vikings. “I try to play my best every week,” Hundley said. “I could care less if it’s at home, if it’s away. Just trying to put this team in the best position to win. I try to bring it and give my best performance every week.”

BACK TO BACK: The Vikings are known as a defensive team, but they rank eighth in total offense and have gotten far more out of their running back combination of Latavius Murray and Jerick McKinnon than most people realize. The two have combined for 1,652 total yards from scrimmage, easily filling the hole in the offense that rookie Dalvin Cook left when he tore his ACL on Oct. 1. As a group, the Vikings backs rank fourth in the NFL in yardage this season and that production has made the offense far better this year. “They’re operating on all four cylinders, whether it’s the run, the pass, the deceptive,” coach Mike McCarthy said. “The protection’s been good. They’re playing at a very high level. They’re a very well-rounded football team.”
OUR PREDICTIONS

TOM SILVERSTEIN

I don’t expect the Packers to lay down, but the talent gap between them and the Vikings is huge and that will mean a Minnesota victory. The Packers ought to just run, run and run and see what their three rookie backs can do. Vikings 31, Packers 17

PETE DOUGHERTY

With Aaron Rodgers shut down for the season, the Packers are a nine-point underdog against the best team in the NFC North and not having Davante Adams (concussion) only makes things worse. Coach Mike McCarthy has a better feel for how to play with Brett Hundley at quarterback, but points figure to be a little too hard to come by against one of the NFL’s better defenses. Vikings 27, Packers 20

MICHAEL COHEN

It figures to be a long, cold night for the Packers as they host a division rival with legitimate Super Bowl hopes. The Vikings have won the NFC North in two of the last three years. The balance of power might be shifting. Vikings 27, Packers 13

RYAN WOOD

For the first time since Dec. 28, 2008, the Packers will play a regular-season game with no playoff implications. The Vikings will be playing to improve their postseason seeding. With a renewed focus on the run game and home-field advantage, the Packers can prevent this from becoming a blowout. But there’s too much at stake for the Vikings to lose. Vikings 27, Packers 21

AARON NAGLER

The Packers are outgunned, outmanned, outnumbered, outplanned. While Mike McCarthy's rag-tag group undoubtedly will fight the good fight, especially with an early swell of emotion from a home crowd bent on revenge against the team that essentially ended their season back in October, the Vikings are fighting for a No. 1 seed for a reason. They're a really good team. The Packers are not. Vikings 34, Packers 20
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Re: Game 15: Queens at Lambeau 7:20 PM 

Post#2 » by Sky Bucks » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:07 pm

Thank God for my fantasy team :dontknow:
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Re: Game 15: Queens at Lambeau 7:20 PM 

Post#3 » by trwi7 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:43 pm

All of them picking the Vikings by 6-14 points. I'd be shocked if it's within 20 discounting any garbage time TD's. Hundley is terrible and doesn't have his security blanket. The Vikings defense is really good. The Packers defense sucks. Randall might be able to hold one of Diggs and Thielen in check, though that's not even close to a guarantee but which corner is going to hold the other one in check? This is going to be a blowout. 35-10 and the TD is going to be towards the end of the game.
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Re: Game 15: Queens at Lambeau 7:20 PM 

Post#4 » by rilamann » Sat Dec 23, 2017 9:47 pm

I wonder how much film Clay Matthews watched this week.

The Packers should play Callahan, the game means nothing and we already know Hundley is garbage. Playing Callahan would make too much sense and if the Packers had any sense to begin with we wouldn't be in the position we are in today.

I thought Callahan was the better QB over Hundley going into this season, I would love to see him play in a real game against a very good NFL defense that has something to play for.

Hundley is going to go out there and suck and it won't be anything we don't already know, at least see what you have in Callahan. Maybe he sucks too, but it would be a good game to find out if maybe he doesn't.

It would be classic and typical Fat Mac if he put Callahan out there it was painfully obvious by the end of the 1st half to anyone watching that Callahan was the better QB over Hundley, yet McCarthy refused to give Callahan a shot when it still mattered and Hundley was out there sucking. That would be some seriously stereotypical McCarthy era ****.
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Re: Game 15: Queens at Lambeau 7:20 PM 

Post#5 » by Jollay » Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:28 am

I wonder if our linebackers minus Clay and Nick are the worst to ever suit up in a 3-4 for a game in the NFL. What, Blake, Jake, Fackrell, Biegel? Good for a bowl game, maybe...

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Re: Game 15: Queens at Lambeau 7:20 PM 

Post#6 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:33 am

This could get ugly.
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Re: Game 15: Queens at Lambeau 7:20 PM 

Post#7 » by jazzfanWA » Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:37 am

One of the guys you want to gauge progress on the last two games just got carted off. Shocker.
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Post#8 » by dedned » Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:54 am

This team is (Please Use More Appropriate Word)
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Post#9 » by XtremeDunkz » Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:54 am

jazzfanWA wrote:One of the guys you want to gauge progress on the last two games just got carted off. Shocker.
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Re: Game 15: Queens at Lambeau 7:20 PM 

Post#10 » by RubberSoul » Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:56 am

jazzfanWA wrote:One of the guys you want to gauge progress on the last two games just got carted off. Shocker.

On the first play of the game too. How packers of them. They shouldn’t even play these last two games we are just going to pile up more injuries affecting us next year.
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Post#11 » by RubberSoul » Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:57 am

Anyone else feel the irony on our guy not pile driving Keenum into the ground on that first down roll out? It was the exact same type of play Rodgers got injured on.
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Re: Game 15: Queens at Lambeau 7:20 PM 

Post#12 » by dedned » Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:04 am

Field sucks. Team sucks. Coaches suck. gm sucks. Maximum suckage has been achieved.
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Post#13 » by dedned » Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:18 am

Kill me. This team is a diarrhea dump.
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Post#14 » by trwi7 » Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:18 am

Our "trick" plays are so hilariously awful.
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Post#15 » by rilamann » Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:27 am

If Mike McCarthy wasn't Mike McCarthy I would think he was trolling us with this play calling.
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Post#16 » by dedned » Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:30 am

rilamann wrote:If Mike McCarthy wasn't Mike McCarthy I would think he was trolling us with this play calling.

Dude needs to go just for sticking with hundley for so long.
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Post#17 » by rilamann » Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:38 am

dedned wrote:
rilamann wrote:If Mike McCarthy wasn't Mike McCarthy I would think he was trolling us with this play calling.

Dude needs to go just for sticking with hundley for so long.



Hundley is his guy and he is sticking with him!!! Mike McCarthy is a damn good football coach!! He even says so himself.
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Post#18 » by Iheartfootball » Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:39 am

I really just am so over this team. They are so blah.

Also, I hate myself for saying this but if this Vikings team we’re wearing Packer uniforms I would really like them. This is a team built the right way. Around a defense and scheme that works.

I feel gross.
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Post#19 » by Iheartfootball » Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:42 am

It’s not so much the mix of plays called as it is the total lack of ingenuity that holds back this offense.

That Hundley isn’t good right now.
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Post#20 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:44 am

As much as I want to win, there are five teams either 6-8 or 7-7. 2-4 spots in the first round could make a big difference.

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