Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas

[Netaman]

Why would we trade a 24 year old PG who as a starter is clocking in with 15ppg and 7apg?

This, especially for a player with tons of room for development I just don't see any reason to trade him unless somebody comes in and gives us a deal we can't refuse.

The only player with any value that we can trade is Harris, and I'm not even sure it's going to be anything big. Maybe a late first rounder, I mean if Bojan can get us that I'm sure Harris should be able too as well.

If we took back a bad contract like Nicholson he definitely would return a late first, as it is I think Marks would prefer no bad contract and a slightly worse pick or a young roster player toiling away at the end of someone's bench.

[Keith Van Horn]

harris and a second rounder for Trey Lyles

frontcourt rotations next years of

RHJ / Okafor
Lyles / Allen

Zeller fills in as needed, give Acy the boot, and Moz is still human cigar victory boy

[LKIRNets]

Why would we trade a 24 year old PG who as a starter is clocking in with 15ppg and 7apg?

This, especially for a player with tons of room for development I just don't see any reason to trade him unless somebody comes in and gives us a deal we can't refuse.

The only player with any value that we can trade is Harris, and I'm not even sure it's going to be anything big. Maybe a late first rounder, I mean if Bojan can get us that I'm sure Harris should be able too as well.

If we took back a bad contract like Nicholson he definitely would return a late first, as it is I think Marks would prefer no bad contract and a slightly worse pick or a young roster player toiling away at the end of someone's bench.

you're missing the point. Spencer DinWiddie is not a commodity. 24 yr. olds wit his contract, and his game are not floating around in this league. His contract is #10 in the NBA in production value. That's the whole NBA.

We're not taking a bulk contract to trade him for a first ever. This isn't Bojan. And a team imo would have to start wit we'll eat Mozgov's contract just to have the conversation.

[Netaman]

This, especially for a player with tons of room for development I just don't see any reason to trade him unless somebody comes in and gives us a deal we can't refuse.

The only player with any value that we can trade is Harris, and I'm not even sure it's going to be anything big. Maybe a late first rounder, I mean if Bojan can get us that I'm sure Harris should be able too as well.

If we took back a bad contract like Nicholson he definitely would return a late first, as it is I think Marks would prefer no bad contract and a slightly worse pick or a young roster player toiling away at the end of someone's bench.

you're missing the point. Spencer DinWiddie is not a commodity. 24 yr. olds wit his contract, and his game are not floating around in this league. His contract is #10 in the NBA in production value. That's the whole NBA.

We're not taking a bulk contract to trade him for a first ever. This isn't Bojan. And a team imo would have to start wit we'll eat Mozgov's contract just to have the conversation.

My post was about Harris not Dinwiddie.

[Netaman]

harris and a second rounder for Trey Lyles

frontcourt rotations next years of

RHJ / Okafor
Lyles / Allen

Zeller fills in as needed, give Acy the boot, and Moz is still human cigar victory boy

Would be a great trade, not sure if it's enough value for Denver since Lyles has had some big games recently and seems to be getting more minutes. But they do have a glut of PF's. He looks like a really interesting stretch option for this roster though. Maybe we also kick in Whitehead?

[LKIRNets]

If we took back a bad contract like Nicholson he definitely would return a late first, as it is I think Marks would prefer no bad contract and a slightly worse pick or a young roster player toiling away at the end of someone's bench.

you're missing the point. Spencer DinWiddie is not a commodity. 24 yr. olds wit his contract, and his game are not floating around in this league. His contract is #10 in the NBA in production value. That's the whole NBA.

We're not taking a bulk contract to trade him for a first ever. This isn't Bojan. And a team imo would have to start wit we'll eat Mozgov's contract just to have the conversation.

My post was about Harris not Dinwiddie.

oh **** my bad.

[MrDollarBills]

If Dinwiddie was performing like this on another team, Nets fans would be clamoring for him. Yet we have people who think we should "sell high" on a 24 year old?

Maybe I overvalue these players I guess. I wouldn't trade Dinwiddie, LeVert, or RHJ unless the return was a game changer for the Nets.

[LKIRNets]

If Dinwiddie was performing like this on another team, Nets fans would be clamoring for him. Yet we have people who think we should "sell high" on a 24 year old?

Maybe I overvalue these players I guess. I wouldn't trade Dinwiddie, LeVert, or RHJ unless the return was a game changer for the Nets.

You actually don't. You value them like they are suppose to.

Nets fans wake up. Not specific ones. The ones that think Dinwiddie is getting traded based on value. Name me how many 20-25 year olds are producing like him from the PG position?

If you can't name 5, that tells you how valuable he is. I'll do it for you guys right now.

Tyler Ulis 22 yrs. old
Ben Simmons 21 yrs. old
Schroder 24 yrs. old
Ball 19 yrs. old
Fox 19 yrs. old

All who Dinwiddie possesses better play at PG than.

after that it's bare. You have 20 something pretenders and then it's 26-29 yrs.

Dinwiddie is 24. On top of that the Nets have

Caris LeVert 23 yrs. old
D'Angelo Russell 21 yrs. old

[TheBrooklynKidd]

If Dinwiddie was performing like this on another team, Nets fans would be clamoring for him. Yet we have people who think we should "sell high" on a 24 year old?

Maybe I overvalue these players I guess. I wouldn't trade Dinwiddie, LeVert, or RHJ unless the return was a game changer for the Nets.

I wouldn’t mind selling high but by selling high I mean really high. Like mid-late lottery pick high.

The main issue with Dinwiddie is positional fit. We have LeVert, Russell and Lin to play the position and I don’t want to pay all 4 of those guys. I’d trade him for a high impact young forward which is a position of need IMO.

Maybe Andrew Wiggins? He’s been pretty trash this season, he’s a buy low guy IMO. His contract situation makes it really difficult though.

I’d consider a deal for Jabari straight up.

Aaron Gordon? I doubt Orlando would do it. He seems like the only part of their rebuild that wasn’t a complete **** up.

Maybe Dinwiddie+ some for our pick back?

Dinwiddie+ some for the Phoenix pick?

IDK, it’s pretty difficult to find a team that would value him as much as we do. At that point I would keep him and dare him to find another team that’s willing to pay next summer.

[LKIRNets]

If Dinwiddie was performing like this on another team, Nets fans would be clamoring for him. Yet we have people who think we should "sell high" on a 24 year old?

Maybe I overvalue these players I guess. I wouldn't trade Dinwiddie, LeVert, or RHJ unless the return was a game changer for the Nets.

I wouldn’t mind selling high but by selling high I mean really high. Like mid-late lottery pick high.

The main issue with Dinwiddie is positional fit. We have LeVert, Russell and Lin to play the position and I don’t want to pay all 4 of those guys. I’d trade him for a high impact young forward which is a position of need IMO.

Maybe Andrew Wiggins? He’s been pretty trash this season, he’s a buy low guy IMO. His contract situation makes it really difficult though.

I’d consider a deal for Jabari straight up.

Aaron Gordon? I doubt Orlando would do it. He seems like the only part of their rebuild that wasn’t a complete **** up.

Maybe Dinwiddie+ some for our pick back?

Dinwiddie+ some for the Phoenix pick?

IDK, it’s pretty difficult to find a team that would value him as much as we do. At that point I would keep him and dare him to find another team that’s willing to pay next summer.

I don't think you're seeing how much of a rarity in the NBA a Spencer DinWiddie is. My bruh, look at the landscape how much these guards are making. Look at the landscape, the current one. Name me 5 guards who possess his defense, his playmaking skills, his shotmaking ability and protection of the basketball.

[TheBrooklynKidd]

If Dinwiddie was performing like this on another team, Nets fans would be clamoring for him. Yet we have people who think we should "sell high" on a 24 year old?

Maybe I overvalue these players I guess. I wouldn't trade Dinwiddie, LeVert, or RHJ unless the return was a game changer for the Nets.

I wouldn’t mind selling high but by selling high I mean really high. Like mid-late lottery pick high.

The main issue with Dinwiddie is positional fit. We have LeVert, Russell and Lin to play the position and I don’t want to pay all 4 of those guys. I’d trade him for a high impact young forward which is a position of need IMO.

Maybe Andrew Wiggins? He’s been pretty trash this season, he’s a buy low guy IMO. His contract situation makes it really difficult though.

I’d consider a deal for Jabari straight up.

Aaron Gordon? I doubt Orlando would do it. He seems like the only part of their rebuild that wasn’t a complete **** up.

Maybe Dinwiddie+ some for our pick back?

Dinwiddie+ some for the Phoenix pick?

IDK, it’s pretty difficult to find a team that would value him as much as we do. At that point I would keep him and dare him to find another team that’s willing to pay next summer.

I don't think you're seeing how much of a rarity in the NBA a Spencer DinWiddie is. My bruh, look at the landscape how much these guards are making. Look at the landscape, the current one. Name me 5 guards who possess his defense, his playmaking skills, his shotmaking ability and protection of the basketball.

He’s eventually gonna get a big deal though that’s the thing. It doesn’t make sense for us to give big deals to him, DLo and LeVert IMO.

Trading him for a young productive player at a position of need is our best option. Or a lotto pick, which would be the highest pick weve had since Derrick Favors.

But like I said, his price is high and unless it’s met I want to keep him. Maybe we get LeVert to bulk up and become a real SF so we can start all 3 of them together, but we’d still need 2/3 of those guys to develop into bonafide stars to justify building around them.

[MGrand15]

Are you guys projecting Dinwiddie as a future all star or something? His value is great relative to his contract for the next season and a half. And he's showing he can be a really good backup or a solid starter in this league. But he's not this untouchable piece.

Assist to TO ratio doesn't just let you overlook his sub 40% shooting from the field or poor finishing inside. I like Dinwiddie a lot. But just like we're not ready to give up the farm for Malcolm Brogdan or Elfriid Payton - no team is giving up a huge haul for Dinwiddie. Solid young guards who help but aren't close to elite.

Jabari, Wiggins, our pick, Phoenix pick, or anything close for Dinwiddie is insane.

[LKIRNets]

I wouldn’t mind selling high but by selling high I mean really high. Like mid-late lottery pick high.

The main issue with Dinwiddie is positional fit. We have LeVert, Russell and Lin to play the position and I don’t want to pay all 4 of those guys. I’d trade him for a high impact young forward which is a position of need IMO.

Maybe Andrew Wiggins? He’s been pretty trash this season, he’s a buy low guy IMO. His contract situation makes it really difficult though.

I’d consider a deal for Jabari straight up.

Aaron Gordon? I doubt Orlando would do it. He seems like the only part of their rebuild that wasn’t a complete **** up.

Maybe Dinwiddie+ some for our pick back?

Dinwiddie+ some for the Phoenix pick?

IDK, it’s pretty difficult to find a team that would value him as much as we do. At that point I would keep him and dare him to find another team that’s willing to pay next summer.

I don't think you're seeing how much of a rarity in the NBA a Spencer DinWiddie is. My bruh, look at the landscape how much these guards are making. Look at the landscape, the current one. Name me 5 guards who possess his defense, his playmaking skills, his shotmaking ability and protection of the basketball.

He’s eventually gonna get a big deal though that’s the thing. It doesn’t make sense for us to give big deals to him, DLo and LeVert IMO.

Trading him for a young productive player at a position of need is our best option. Or a lotto pick, which would be the highest pick weve had since Derrick Favors.

But like I said, his price is high and unless it’s met I want to keep him. Maybe we get LeVert to bulk up and become a real SF so we can start all 3 of them together, but we’d still need 2/3 of those guys to develop into bonafide stars to justify building around them.

bruh Levert is locked up until 2020. They'll extend him at their price in 2019. DLo is the only one who likely gets a max if he reaches his potential.

Trading Dinwiddie, unless I'm getting a 1st round plus you're taking Mozgov's contract. Aint happening. We don't have to really worry about a big right now. Porzingis is a target in 2019. The system we play in is not for all PF and C. Julius Randle is a target this offseason. Who imo will be an upgrade from Booker. There's the chance that Okafor stays and develops and you still have that gem of a 19 yr. old in Jarrett Allen.

Do not worry about the bigs position.

Right now we're in the driver's seat.

[LKIRNets]

Are you guys projecting Dinwiddie as a future all star or something? His value is great relative to his contract for the next season and a half. And he's showing he can be a really good backup or a solid starter in this league. But he's not this untouchable piece.

he's a top 16 player right now in his position. So now he's not a potential stud? 24 name me the guys doing what he does. Remember we also play the fastest system in basketball.

Assist to TO ratio doesn't just let you overlook his sub 40% shooting from the field or poor finishing inside. I like Dinwiddie a lot. But just like we're not ready to give up the farm for Malcolm Brogdan or Elfriid Payton - no team is giving up a huge haul for Dinwiddie. Solid young guards who help but aren't close to elite.

24 protecting the ball at the top rate in the NBA. His 40% shooting is him taking a bigger role that was asked of him this season. How can you have any issues wit that? No team would trade a Spencer DinWiddie unless they get a 1st and the other team takes on something. These guys aren't growing on trees.

Jabari, Wiggins, our pick, Phoenix pick, or anything close for Dinwiddie is insane.

Jabari is a FA this summer. Our pick isn't coming to us. Pheonix is not trading a pick. No other team would trade a Spencer Dinwiddie.

If you're a GM and you have a bulk contract and you want to move it. That's when a Dinwiddie comes in handy.

[TheBrooklynKidd]

I don't think you're seeing how much of a rarity in the NBA a Spencer DinWiddie is. My bruh, look at the landscape how much these guards are making. Look at the landscape, the current one. Name me 5 guards who possess his defense, his playmaking skills, his shotmaking ability and protection of the basketball.

He’s eventually gonna get a big deal though that’s the thing. It doesn’t make sense for us to give big deals to him, DLo and LeVert IMO.

Trading him for a young productive player at a position of need is our best option. Or a lotto pick, which would be the highest pick weve had since Derrick Favors.

But like I said, his price is high and unless it’s met I want to keep him. Maybe we get LeVert to bulk up and become a real SF so we can start all 3 of them together, but we’d still need 2/3 of those guys to develop into bonafide stars to justify building around them.

bruh Levert is locked up until 2020. They'll extend him at their price in 2019. DLo is the only one who likely gets a max if he reaches his potential.

Trading Dinwiddie, unless I'm getting a 1st round plus you're taking Mozgov's contract. Aint happening. We don't have to really worry about a big right now. Porzingis is a target in 2019. The system we play in is not for all PF and C. Julius Randle is a target this offseason. Who imo will be an upgrade from Booker. There's the chance that Okafor stays and develops and you still have that gem of a 19 yr. old in Jarrett Allen.

Do not worry about the bigs position.

Right now we're in the driver's seat.

Porzingis isn’t a target, that’s nonsense. Most likely he will be extended and never hit RFA like all 21 year old superstars or will be an RFA and an easy match for the Knicks. Randle is a poor fit on the roster with the emergence of Rondae IMO and I don’t want to pay him. I also have little faith in Okafor but I see Allen as the C of the future.

I could see LeVert getting the max. The 2020 offseason is a big one and all of the bad 2016 deals will expire, there’s a chance someone tries to max him out in RFA and we’re forced to match. That’s only a year after DLo, RHJ and Dinwiddie get their deals. RHJ and Dinwiddie are also each gonna get 15ish, maybe more. We might as well max out DLo right now.

We have to start planning ahead and figuring out who’s going to be a part of the core and who’s going to be a trade asset, preferably while they’re still on their minimum/rookie deals and easy to move.

[TheBrooklynKidd]

Are you guys projecting Dinwiddie as a future all star or something? His value is great relative to his contract for the next season and a half. And he's showing he can be a really good backup or a solid starter in this league. But he's not this untouchable piece.

Assist to TO ratio doesn't just let you overlook his sub 40% shooting from the field or poor finishing inside. I like Dinwiddie a lot. But just like we're not ready to give up the farm for Malcolm Brogdan or Elfriid Payton - no team is giving up a huge haul for Dinwiddie. Solid young guards who help but aren't close to elite.

Jabari, Wiggins, our pick, Phoenix pick, or anything close for Dinwiddie is insane.

There’s a decent chance he turns into a borderline all-star. He has the skill set, size, work ethic and swagger.

Jabari would be reasonable if they don’t want to commit to his contract, same with Wiggins. Both players are at their lowest value in their careers.

The picks are a long shot and I don’t think just Dinwiddie does it, that’s why I said Dinwiddie+

[LKIRNets]

Porzingis isn’t a target, that’s nonsense. Most likely he will be extended and never hit RFA like all 21 year old superstars or will be an RFA and an easy match for the Knicks. Randle is a poor fit on the roster with the emergence of Rondae IMO and I don’t want to pay him. I also have little faith in Okafor but I see Allen as the C of the future.

RFA not testing the waters? really? stop it bruh. This is a business.

Randle is one of the top big men in the NBA. He'd be a minimum price too. They can legit have Randle off the bench and Okafor as a starting PF if it works out, Allen at C. Rondae can slot into SF wit an improving jump shot.

I could see LeVert getting the max. The 2020 offseason is a big one and all of the bad 2016 deals will expire, there’s a chance someone tries to max him out in RFA and we’re forced to match. That’s only a year after DLo, RHJ and Dinwiddie get their deals. RHJ and Dinwiddie are also each gonna get 15ish, maybe more. We might as well max out DLo right now.

you need to relax.

We have to start planning ahead and figuring out who’s going to be a part of the core and who’s going to be a trade asset, preferably while they’re still on their minimum/rookie deals and easy to move.

Isn't that what Sean Marks does?

[LKIRNets]

Are you guys projecting Dinwiddie as a future all star or something? His value is great relative to his contract for the next season and a half. And he's showing he can be a really good backup or a solid starter in this league. But he's not this untouchable piece.

Assist to TO ratio doesn't just let you overlook his sub 40% shooting from the field or poor finishing inside. I like Dinwiddie a lot. But just like we're not ready to give up the farm for Malcolm Brogdan or Elfriid Payton - no team is giving up a huge haul for Dinwiddie. Solid young guards who help but aren't close to elite.

Jabari, Wiggins, our pick, Phoenix pick, or anything close for Dinwiddie is insane.

There’s a decent chance he turns into a borderline all-star. He has the skill set, size, work ethic and swagger.

Jabari would be reasonable if they don’t want to commit to his contract, same with Wiggins. Both players are at their lowest value in their careers.

The picks are a long shot and I don’t think just Dinwiddie does it, that’s why I said Dinwiddie+

Correct.

Which is why trading Din for him makes no damn sense especially wit his injury history. Wiggins shouldn't even be in your thought process right now.

That's the only way you trade a Dinwiddie. You're looking at this too much from our point of view and not a how valuable to the NBA a Spencer DinWiddie is.

For example I'm not a Knicks fan but is it wrong to say Enes Kanter wouldn't fetch them a top 15 pick and a team would eat Noah's contract too? If you say no, you haven't been watching what he's doing in the Eastern Conference.

[TheBrooklynKidd]

Porzingis isn’t a target, that’s nonsense. Most likely he will be extended and never hit RFA like all 21 year old superstars or will be an RFA and an easy match for the Knicks. Randle is a poor fit on the roster with the emergence of Rondae IMO and I don’t want to pay him. I also have little faith in Okafor but I see Allen as the C of the future.

RFA not testing the waters? really? stop it bruh. This is a business.

Randle is one of the top big men in the NBA. He'd be a minimum price too. They can legit have Randle off the bench and Okafor as a starting PF if it works out, Allen at C. Rondae can slot into SF wit an improving jump shot.

I could see LeVert getting the max. The 2020 offseason is a big one and all of the bad 2016 deals will expire, there’s a chance someone tries to max him out in RFA and we’re forced to match. That’s only a year after DLo, RHJ and Dinwiddie get their deals. RHJ and Dinwiddie are also each gonna get 15ish, maybe more. We might as well max out DLo right now.

you need to relax.

We have to start planning ahead and figuring out who’s going to be a part of the core and who’s going to be a trade asset, preferably while they’re still on their minimum/rookie deals and easy to move.

Isn't that what Sean Marks does?

I’m sorry to say this man or be disrespectful, but you really don’t know what you’re talking about in regards to this RFA stuff. Players like Porzingis never hit RFA, they’re given a designated 5 year max that only their incumbent team can offer. I mean really think about it. The best players to come out of recent draft classes: Wiggins, Gobert, Embiid, Giannis, Drummond, McCollum, Beal, Kawhi, Kyrie, Anthony Davis were all signed to extensions and never became FAs. There’s no reason to suggest that Kristaps wouldn’t do the same.

LeVert could get the max or at least the same deals that Allen Crabbe and Tim Hardaway jr got, it’s a real possibility IMO he has the most potential out of anyone on this roster not named DLo. Speaking of DLo when was the last time a 20 ppg scorer didn’t get maxed by somebody

[MGrand15]

Are you guys projecting Dinwiddie as a future all star or something? His value is great relative to his contract for the next season and a half. And he's showing he can be a really good backup or a solid starter in this league. But he's not this untouchable piece.

Assist to TO ratio doesn't just let you overlook his sub 40% shooting from the field or poor finishing inside. I like Dinwiddie a lot. But just like we're not ready to give up the farm for Malcolm Brogdan or Elfriid Payton - no team is giving up a huge haul for Dinwiddie. Solid young guards who help but aren't close to elite.

Jabari, Wiggins, our pick, Phoenix pick, or anything close for Dinwiddie is insane.

There’s a decent chance he turns into a borderline all-star. He has the skill set, size, work ethic and swagger.

Jabari would be reasonable if they don’t want to commit to his contract, same with Wiggins. Both players are at their lowest value in their careers.

The picks are a long shot and I don’t think just Dinwiddie does it, that’s why I said Dinwiddie+

A decent chance is pushing it and I'd attribute that solely to his work ethic.

Right now, he's a pretty good defender who makes the right play and can hit open shots. A less proven George Hill. That's AWESOME to have on your team but he has a lot of work to do to get to all star level. It's unfair to even put these sort of expectations on him.