Signed By Indiana - The Jeremy Lamb Thread

[mrknowitall215]

The starting lineup posts a 114.3 offensive rating and 102.2 defensive rating with a +12.1 net rating with Lamb at SG

The starting lineup posts a 102.7 offensive rating and 101.4 defensive rating with a +1.3 net rating with Batum at SG

http://stats.nba.com/team/1610612766/lineups-advanced/?sort=MIN&dir=1

The difference in how the team has performed earlier in the season with Lamb starting and ever since Batum's return is that they haven't been able to generate the same margins that they did earlier in the season that allowed the bench a cushion of comfort to play with until the starters were back on the floor

[catch20two]

http://stats.nba.com/team/1610612766/lineups-advanced/?sort=MIN&dir=1

What exactly do the W and L columns mean in this lineups stat? It says that we’re 9-9 with Lamb playing alongside the starters and 6-11 with Batum playing alongside the starters.

[mrknowitall215]

http://stats.nba.com/team/1610612766/lineups-advanced/?sort=MIN&dir=1

What exactly do the W and L columns mean in this lineups stat? It says that we’re 9-9 with Lamb playing alongside the starters and 6-11 with Batum playing alongside the starters.

The W/L columns represents the wins and losses records for the games in which that specific lineup played together. Therefore in this instance the Hornets are 9-9 in games in which Lamb plays with the starters and only 6-11 in games in which Batum plays with the starters

[catch20two]

http://stats.nba.com/team/1610612766/lineups-advanced/?sort=MIN&dir=1

What exactly do the W and L columns mean in this lineups stat? It says that we’re 9-9 with Lamb playing alongside the starters and 6-11 with Batum playing alongside the starters.

The W/L columns represents the wins and losses records for the games in which that specific lineup played together. Therefore in this instance the Hornets are 9-9 in games in which Lamb plays with the starters and only 6-11 in games in which Batum plays with the starters

So only our dumbass coaches wouldn’t play the lineup that helps us win the most for whatever reason.

[yosemiteben]

No. You fail to put it into context. I’m not ignoring it. I don’t even think I’ve mentioned Lamb and the adjective or adverb great in the same sentence all season lol.

You've said multiple times that he's the best sixth man in the league. If you want to pump the brakes on those claims now, cool.

That’s the context that you choose to ignore so you can pin us into a irrational wall that Lamb has been a detriment to the team because he’s not as good as Batum at running the offense. That’s been openly admitted.

The irrational wall I'm pinning you to is this fact that you openly admit? Come again?

[catch20two]

No. You fail to put it into context. I’m not ignoring it. I don’t even think I’ve mentioned Lamb and the adjective or adverb great in the same sentence all season lol.

You've said multiple times that he's the best sixth man in the league. If you want to pump the brakes on those claims now, cool.

That’s the context that you choose to ignore so you can pin us into a irrational wall that Lamb has been a detriment to the team because he’s not as good as Batum at running the offense. That’s been openly admitted.

The irrational wall I'm pinning you to is this fact that you openly admit? Come again?

Show me ONE time where I said Lamb is the best 6th man in the league lol. Just one post.

Also show me ONE time where I said that Lamb is a better passer than Batum. That’s what was openly admitted.

You sound crazy Yosemite. You okay? Lol

[Eoghan]

Blaming Lamb's lack of playmaking/passing ability for the woes of the 2nd unit is not the conclusion I would've drawn. The 2nd unit sucks not because Lamb isn't Jason Kidd, it's because the 2nd unit just really sucks. If you replace the 2nd unit's weakest link, MCW, with the team's best player, Kemba, that 2nd unit would still resemble something a lot closer to the 7 win Bobcats than it would a decent team. The rest of the bench guys just aren't very good together.

[mrknowitall215]

Jeremy Lamb Meeting, Exceeding and Now Raising Expectations

One of the most difficult things to do in any professional setting is succeed when you’re expected to succeed. Coming off the most productive summer of his career coupled with a preseason elbow injury to Nicolas Batum meant it was now or never for Hornets shooting guard Jeremy Lamb. If the first three months of the season are any indication, the sixth-year veteran has definitely been raising the bar for himself.

“He’s always had the skill. The only issue was he was physically slight and thin,” said former Oklahoma City Head Coach Scott Brooks, who is now at the helm of the Washington Wizards. “When the head coach is probably stronger than you, that’s not a good sign. You knew when his body would fill out, that he had the skill set, a great shot. He’s very smooth, his floater is hard to guard, his passing is above average.”

Right now, he ranks fourth in the league in bench points (13.4 per game; mini. 20 GP), while his overall scoring (14.4 points), rebounding (4.6), assists (2.6) and steals (0.8) averages are all at career highs.

His play has even been recognized by ESPN Senior Writer, Zach Lowe, who recently commended Lamb for the noticeable improvements to his all-around game.

“Lamb is finally showing interest in the selfless parts of the game - the stuff that wins,” wrote Lowe in his weekly “Ten Things I like and don’t like,” published back on Dec. 1. “He's tossing hit-aheads in transition, tic-tac-toeing extra passes, and making plays as a secondary pick-and-roll guy - including tough dishes to the opposite corner. He's working harder on defense, and gobbling up rebounds.”

Nearing the midway point of the NBA schedule, the key for Lamb over the next few months will be not only sustaining his on-court production, but also keeping up with any and all off-the-court habits amidst the increasing threat of fatigue and injury. Under contract through the conclusion of next season, Lamb should be a vital part of the Charlotte bench for the immediate and upcoming future.

http://www.nba.com/hornets/jeremy-lamb-meeting-exceeding-and-now-raising-expectations

[catch20two]

Re: GT charlotte vs kings 1-2 10pm est

Lamb get at least one of those Pippen-esque steals for a fastbreak dunk per game.

This is just over the last 3 games.

[Hugo The Hornet]

Lamb is great so far. Offensively and defensively, he gives a lot of power from the bench and that's what we needed. It's nice to see that he worked hard in the off-season and improved a lot. I hope we'll keep him here in Charlotte.

[mrknowitall215]

According to NBA.com/stats, putting Jeremy Lamb in the starting lineup next to his former UConn teammate Kemba Walker instantly makes that unit far more dangerous than it is with Nicolas Batum in his place:



Lamb provides spacing that Batum (30 percent from long-distance) doesn’t and is capable enough to be the secondary ball handler. Lamb doesn’t create for others quite as well as well as he could, but he’s not exactly a black hole, either. And, according to Synergy Sports, Lamb has been a far more effective defender than Batum:



Lamb's points per possession numbers are equal to that of Marcus Smart, a great defender -- though it's important to note that Smart's workload on defense is higher in terms of both volume and the level and of player he's guarding. Batum is closer to noted defensive sieves Buddy Hield (1.079 PPP) and Jamal Crawford (1.098).

https://hashtagbasketball.com/charlotte-hornets/content/hornets-need-to-bench-nicolas-batum

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[catch20two]

There’s a few reasons why I doubt we’d see Lamb start even though it should happen. #1 is because if we bench Batum now it’ll hurt his trade value come February. #2 is because of ego which can go a either way whether the coaching staff is scared of bruising Batum’s ego or hurting their own by being told in the media by pedestrian fans what they should do before doing so. #3 is just a case of this coaching staff showing more often than not that they just don’t have a clue of what they’re doing whether it’s blindness or stubbornness.

I don’t even care if Lamb starts as long as he gets about 30 minutes or more each game.

[euphorbus]

According to NBA.com/stats, putting Jeremy Lamb in the starting lineup next to his former UConn teammate Kemba Walker instantly makes that unit far more dangerous than it is with Nicolas Batum in his place.

The second unit needs another seasoned "facilitator" alongside Carter-Williams, namely Batum, especially with Cody Zeller still out for the time being. We have already seen him working with the second unit, so I see this switch with Lamb as a natural progression. When Zeller comes back, he and Batum can play together.

It is no coincidence that with Cody injured once again, the team has fallen on hard times. Last season, Zeller was in six of the top seven three-man units (minimum 100 minutes). On the other side of the coin, he played better with Lamb than with Batum. The top-rated three-man unit, surprisingly, was Lamb-Kaminsky-Zeller, at +24.7.

http://bkref.com/tiny/XkpjA

[Lwcasu]

There’s a few reasons why I doubt we’d see Lamb start even though it should happen. #1 is because if we bench Batum now it’ll hurt his trade value come February. #2 is because of ego which can go a either way whether the coaching staff is scared of bruising Batum’s ego or hurting their own by being told in the media by pedestrian fans what they should do before doing so. #3 is just a case of this coaching staff showing more often than not that they just don’t have a clue of what they’re doing whether it’s blindness or stubbornness.

I don’t even care if Lamb starts as long as he gets about 30 minutes or more each game.

While I agree with you, in that we will not bench Batum, what if Lamb is close to breaking out as a borderline all star? To play Devil's Advocate, we are possibly hurting him in the long run by not starting him.

[catch20two]

There’s a few reasons why I doubt we’d see Lamb start even though it should happen. #1 is because if we bench Batum now it’ll hurt his trade value come February. #2 is because of ego which can go a either way whether the coaching staff is scared of bruising Batum’s ego or hurting their own by being told in the media by pedestrian fans what they should do before doing so. #3 is just a case of this coaching staff showing more often than not that they just don’t have a clue of what they’re doing whether it’s blindness or stubbornness.

I don’t even care if Lamb starts as long as he gets about 30 minutes or more each game.

While I agree with you, in that we will not bench Batum, what if Lamb is close to breaking out as a borderline all star? To play Devil's Advocate, we are possibly hurting him in the long run by not starting him.

Honestly that’s the most damaging case of it all and why it’s kind of annoying considering this team’s void of giving Kemba a semblance of a 1-2 punch in the backcourt, that we’re possibly holding back a potential all-star caliber player entering his prime in order to massage the ego of a role player on the down side of his career that we overvalued and overpaid.

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[Diop]

Bit of guess work in that article, I really hope they don’t trade lamb for nothing, surely anti tanking mj wouldn’t trade away an asset for nothing.

So much reaction for the kemba news. If I was gm I would like to know the value of all my players and would listen too all offers. It would take a certain home run for me to trade kemba though

[JDR720]

It we trade lamb for nothing, it would be a bad move especially if its for cap relief. Trade Dwight or Marv or Nic since they all make 2-4 times as much salary.

[catch20two]

Bonnell seem awfully excited via his Twitter about the possibility of trading Lamb lol.

[catch20two]

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I’m getting prepared to say goodbye to ‘The Sacrificial Lamb’. Charlotte don’t deserve good things.