Markelle Fultz Discussion III: For Fultz and going forward (see 2017 draft thread for trade discussion)

[Batista]

how any of you can be fine with this time line is just beyond me

this was supposed to be the year we "try"

It's a disgrace I'm with you 100%

[XDevilBoiX]

Everyone agreed this was ridiculous and what can we do about it?? It’s not like we all sat here and backed this Organization for how they were handling it. All we can do is wait, just like the Simmons situation last year. We got the news that he will be back at practice and probably start playing in a few weeks and most of you guys still complain?

I am happy as hell that I get to watch him play this year instead of waiting to next season. How he plays is a different story.

[smittybanton]

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fake news. this was the flattest top seven since 2014. my recollection is that a plurality liked fultz, and plenty of gms liked one of the other top six players. there's only three or four reporters with access to nba gms. so i'm very curious about where this consensus opinion came from. commenters on realgm?

besides that, availability is a skill. its interesting that an analyst would ignore the fact that he's unavailable after hurting himself by himself. had he been injured like this before the draft, it would've been something to consider then. so its something to consider now. if he's physically or mentally fragile, then that negates any advantage he had over DSJ in my eyes (besides the long arms, lol).

rooting for fultz. not blind to what's happening though. maybe the 'analytics' experts can pull the numbers of all the players who missed half a season working out by themselves and see how they fare for the rest of their career.

[JojoSlimbiid]

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fake news. this was the flattest top seven since 2014. my recollection is that a plurality liked fultz, and plenty of gms liked one of the other top six players. there's only three or four reporters with access to nba gms. so i'm very curious about where this consensus opinion came from. commenters on realgm?

besides that, availability is a skill. its interesting that an analyst would ignore the fact that he's unavailable after hurting himself by himself. had he been injured like this before the draft, it would've been something to consider then. so its something to consider now. if he's physically or mentally fragile, then that negates any advantage he had over DSJ in my eyes (besides the long arms, lol).

rooting for fultz. not blind to what's happening though. maybe the 'analytics' experts can pull the numbers of all the players who missed half a season working out by themselves and see how they fare for the rest of their career.

Outside of laughing at the absurdity I'm not really sure what else one can do with post like this. It's up there with the 44% from 3 on 25 attempts Evan Turner post from a couple pages ago.

[LongLiveHinkie]

lol availability is not a skill. A skill is something that can be refined, you can refine availability.

[XDevilBoiX]

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/sixers-markelle-fultz-injury-update-practice-return-20171227.html

The Sixers medical staff, in conjunction with surgeon Ben Kibler of the Shoulder Center at Kentucky in Lexington, “will gauge his readiness” to play in a game at the end of this week. This comes after the team announced in a statement on Dec. 9 that Fultz is no longer experiencing soreness in his right shoulder and the scapular muscle imbalance was resolved. Three weeks from that date is Saturday.

[JojoSlimbiid]

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/sixers-markelle-fultz-injury-update-practice-return-20171227.html

The Sixers medical staff, in conjunction with surgeon Ben Kibler of the Shoulder Center at Kentucky in Lexington, “will gauge his readiness” to play in a game at the end of this week. This comes after the team announced in a statement on Dec. 9 that Fultz is no longer experiencing soreness in his right shoulder and the scapular muscle imbalance was resolved. Three weeks from that date is Saturday.

Whoa this is pretty big that quote.

[Negrodamus]

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/sixers-markelle-fultz-injury-update-practice-return-20171227.html

The Sixers medical staff, in conjunction with surgeon Ben Kibler of the Shoulder Center at Kentucky in Lexington, “will gauge his readiness” to play in a game at the end of this week. This comes after the team announced in a statement on Dec. 9 that Fultz is no longer experiencing soreness in his right shoulder and the scapular muscle imbalance was resolved. Three weeks from that date is Saturday.

Interesting, maybe Kibler is seeing if increased workload with his tweaked shot will cause an imbalance relapse. If he’s out longer, then that’s what I’m assuming it is.

[Negrodamus]

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Yes, please, put him in coach.

[JojoSlimbiid]

Looking at the schedule next Friday against the Pistons makes sense. Next game after that will be against the Celtics in London 6 days after.

[Negrodamus]

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My man needs him to come back. He needs another creator desperately out there.

[agiaco]

Really looking forward to seeing him come back. Hoping for early success. Rooting for the kid. This whole situation has become an insufferable "I know best" pissing match.

[James40]

lol yeah, shame on him for wanting to see how these guys develop and pan out before judging a trade. How nonsensical of him!

You typically don't even know how good a player is going to be until their 3rd year or so, it makes even less sense to judge a trade until everyone knows who has what, and we don't even know what the Celtics will get out of the pick we traded. We will likely keep the Lakers pick in 2018, and they'll likely get the pick in 2019. Knowing Ainge and his disastrous drafting track record, he'll draft another bust and that extra pick will amount to nothing.

You were mid January from the beginning of this thread for Fultz’s return, so far so good.

If he’s worthy of the number 1 pick, the Sixers in a few years will be contending for an NBA title, and all will be good.

[Kobblehead]

Fultz getting back on the court would be the boost this team desperate needs.

[Misteclipse]

Fultz getting back on the court would be the boost this team desperate needs.

And likewise the boost this forum needs. Will be great to actually discuss his play instead of tin foil hat conspiracy theories.

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[HotelVitale]

Really looking forward to seeing him come back. Hoping for early success. Rooting for the kid. This whole situation has become an insufferable "I know best" pissing match.

...and when none of us have any way of knowing a damn thing about his situation.

[LongLiveHinkie]

Fultz getting back on the court would be the boost this team desperate needs.

If he's not rusty. Guy has basically played 2 weeks of competitive basketball in the last calendar year.

[LloydFree]

fake news. this was the flattest top seven since 2014. my recollection is that a plurality liked fultz, and plenty of gms liked one of the other top six players. there's only three or four reporters with access to nba gms. so i'm very curious about where this consensus opinion came from. commenters on realgm?

besides that, availability is a skill. its interesting that an analyst would ignore the fact that he's unavailable after hurting himself by himself. had he been injured like this before the draft, it would've been something to consider then. so its something to consider now. if he's physically or mentally fragile, then that negates any advantage he had over DSJ in my eyes (besides the long arms, lol).

rooting for fultz. not blind to what's happening though. maybe the 'analytics' experts can pull the numbers of all the players who missed half a season working out by themselves and see how they fare for the rest of their career.

I think you may have meant the flattest top 7 since 2013. But that would be, JMO. Pretty much everything else, right on.

[dbodner]

Ainge made a better deal for the Celtics, with this idiot Colangelo, than Hinkie made with Vlade Divac.

That was part of my exchange with DBodner, Lloyd. He is going to die on the Fultz hill. There is not a GM alive today that would trade Fultz for Taytum + a lottery pick as it stands today.

Of course he's going to die on that hill. He's one of the draftexpress writers who pushed this Fultz nonsense onto the public.

[dbodner]

BTW, Givony and Schmitz were both (relatively) down on Simmons, and I had him clear-cut #1. Givony and Schmitz were both down on Porzingis, and I had him 3/4 all year. I have my own opinions, as right or as wrong as they may be, thank you very much.