Trae Young

clyde21 · Post #261 » by **clyde21** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:47 pm

SlowPaced wrote:From what I've seen, he looks far too skilled not to become a very good point guard despite the lack of physical tools. Excellent shooter with range, super crafty, and a creative playmaker. For offense, the size issue is overrated, the league has never been more favorable for undersized guards than it is right now.

He's going to be a liability on defense, but the league does have star point guards who don't play any defense such as Kyrie, Lillard and IT.

As long as he doesn't lapse from a team-defense standpoint, it won't have a huge impact. Perimeter on-ball defense is overrated, anyways. He just needs to switch effectively and disrupt the passing lanes and he'll be alright on that end.

clyde21 · Post #262 » by **clyde21** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:49 pm

Audi wrote:Paired with guys like Issac and Gordon to help remedy those defensive liabilities...would be a beautiful fit for Orlando.

He actually would. I actually thought the Magic would take Sexton in the top 10, but I think it has to be Young at this point. Though I like Sexton a bit too.

mg · Post #263 » by mg » Sun Dec 24, 2017 9:37 pm

Audi wrote:Paired with guys like Issac and Gordon to help remedy those defensive liabilities...would be a beautiful fit for Orlando.

He would be a beautiful fit on any team that wants to feature a great offensive guard who also seems to have a high bb IQ.

I was watching clips of Curry from his rookie year. None of those dudes are remaining on Golden State from Curry's rookie season. Big picture in the lottery it's always best to just take the best player and not worry so much about fit esp since the team is likely not very good anyway picking in the lottery.

The-Power · Post #264 » by **The-Power** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:10 pm

Trae Young should ideally be used the way he is used in Oklahoma. Give him the keys to the offense, surround him with shooters and rim runners, and let them run whenever possible. Sort of like Harden in Houston. Of course he has to prove himself worthy of that first, and some off-ball experience will only benefit him in the long run. But you want to groom him to take over your team's offense soon if you pick him with a high – say top five – pick and make full use of his potential.

No-Man · Post #265 » by **No-Man** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:34 pm

I think he is gonna be this generation's Nash

I get the Curry comp but I don't think it makes sense

J_T · Post #266 » by **J_T** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:22 pm

Fischella wrote:I think he is gonna be this generation's Nash

I get the Curry comp but I don't think it makes sense

I think this is insulting to Nash. Even if we want to pretend that he hasn't played only 10 games so far and we want to pretend that he has 100 performances like this already, there is nothing in his game that would remind me of Nash. Curry - sure. But not Nash.

blazeyo · Post #267 » by **blazeyo** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:36 pm

J_T wrote:
Fischella wrote:I think he is gonna be this generation's Nash

I get the Curry comp but I don't think it makes sense

I think this is insulting to Nash. Even if we want to pretend that he hasn't played only 10 games so far and we want to pretend that he has 100 performances like this already, there is nothing in his game that would remind me of Nash. Curry - sure. But not Nash.

......... Look better.

And how is that insulting? He is better than Nash coming out of college.

The-Power · Post #268 » by **The-Power** » Mon Dec 25, 2017 12:06 am

J_T wrote:
Fischella wrote:I think he is gonna be this generation's Nash

I get the Curry comp but I don't think it makes sense

I think this is insulting to Nash. Even if we want to pretend that he hasn't played only 10 games so far and we want to pretend that he has 100 performances like this already, there is nothing in his game that would remind me of Nash. Curry - sure. But not Nash.

How can it be insulting to Nash but not to Curry who has been better than Nash ever was? And it is not insulting to anybody in reality. A more aggressive Steve Nash is what I see in him as well, he's a much more control-oriented and less movement-oriented type of guy which makes him more similar to Nash than Curry. Not to mention that his passing ability is clearly better than Curry's at the same age and he does look like he could be as creative and good at passing as Nash was if he continues to develop well. Obviously we'll have to wait and see but top-tier prospects get compared to great NBA players all the time – it's only natural to look at great NBA players when looking for a comparison for great college players even though many players do not develop enough to get to that level themselves.

No-Man · Post #269 » by **No-Man** » Mon Dec 25, 2017 12:06 am

You clearly haven't even bothered checking Nash at Santa Clara, those games are still easy to find in youtube, they look awfully similar

Mulhollanddrive · Post #270 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Mon Dec 25, 2017 12:21 am

How is he at getting over screens?

J_T · Post #271 » by **J_T** » Mon Dec 25, 2017 12:26 am

We will see relatively soon whether you are right or wrong. Basically, if he is NOT picked number one, you are obviously wrong. I don't want to hear any excuses and relativisms. You are saying that he is a generational talent. If he is a generational talent, he WILL be picked number one, there is no doubt.

blazeyo · Post #272 » by **blazeyo** » Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:04 am

J_T wrote:We will see relatively soon whether you are right or wrong. Basically, if he is NOT picked number one, you are obviously wrong. I don't want to hear any excuses and relativisms. You are saying that he is a generational talent. If he is a generational talent, he WILL be picked number one, there is no doubt.

Troll.

Steve Nash was picked 15th and Curry was picked 7th. What are you even trying to say?

kennydorglas · Post #273 » by **kennydorglas** » Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:15 am

He's just too good.
I was always a fan of him... since I checked some of his shooting drills (shooting 3's after wild passes, couldnt miss at all).

toussaud · Post #274 » by **toussaud** » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:07 pm

i'm just not a fan. his usage rate is probably the highest in college history. he has the ball in his hands ALL the time. worse than harden. you can body him up and he plays no defense.

with all that said, if I'm the rockets i would do everything short of trading CP3 and Harden to put him on my roster.

Mulhollanddrive · Post #275 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:49 am

I'm not as high on him but I think the 30% hit rate for an All Star in his projected range is not bad odds for him to translate at NBA level so I can see why he would still go in the 3-7 range based on risk reward.

Porter, Bamba, Jackson have different but as significant risks as Young's size and defense.

clyde21 · Post #276 » by **clyde21** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:39 pm

toussaud wrote:i'm just not a fan. his usage rate is probably the highest in college history. he has the ball in his hands ALL the time. worse than harden. you can body him up and he plays no defense.

with all that said, if I'm the rockets i would do everything short of trading CP3 and Harden to put him on my roster.

Rockets don't even have a first rounder and outside of the two guys you mentioned (and Capela) don't really have any tradeable assets. There isn't any way for them to get this kid.

Skin · Post #277 » by **Skin** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:07 am

Fischella wrote:I think he is gonna be this generation's Nash

I get the Curry comp but I don't think it makes sense

The only way this makes sense is if you're talking about both of them sharing awkward hair styles and not knowing what to do with it.

Post #278 » by **Duke4life831** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:31 am

Ive got January 6th circled for a big date for Young. Thats when he plays WVU. Jevon Carter is a hell of a defender and the entire WVU loves to put a ton of pressure on the ball handler. Really curious on how Young handles that.

Post #279 » by **Marcus** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 1:42 am

clyde21 wrote:
toussaud wrote:i'm just not a fan. his usage rate is probably the highest in college history. he has the ball in his hands ALL the time. worse than harden. you can body him up and he plays no defense.

with all that said, if I'm the rockets i would do everything short of trading CP3 and Harden to put him on my roster.

Rockets don't even have a first rounder and outside of the two guys you mentioned (and Capela) don't really have any tradeable assets. There isn't any way for them to get this kid.

and besides if they don't drop CP3 or Harden where the hell do they play this kid?

doordoor123 · Post #280 » by **doordoor123** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 2:18 am

Marcus wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
toussaud wrote:i'm just not a fan. his usage rate is probably the highest in college history. he has the ball in his hands ALL the time. worse than harden. you can body him up and he plays no defense.

with all that said, if I'm the rockets i would do everything short of trading CP3 and Harden to put him on my roster.

Rockets don't even have a first rounder and outside of the two guys you mentioned (and Capela) don't really have any tradeable assets. There isn't any way for them to get this kid.

and besides if they don't drop CP3 or Harden where the hell do they play this kid?

For me Trey Young is the only player that can be an all-star type player the first year in the league. To me because of that his value is pick 1-3. If the Rockets want him, to me they would have to have enough value for a 1-3 pick.