Trae Young

[CptCrunch]

Why are we even acting that stats even matter in college?

We have seen over and over again that stats, especially volume scoring is almost completely non-predictive as a predictor of NBA production.

Tools, trajectory, mentality and skillset (or lack of) matter. Young doesn't rank too high on my scale in these aspects. Since McLemore, I don't give one apple about any guard prospect without tools. I also don't expect anyone to find the next Curry or Nash, nabbing a prospect like them late in the draft is practically pure luck.

[Duke4life831]

Rockets don't even have a first rounder and outside of the two guys you mentioned (and Capela) don't really have any tradeable assets. There isn't any way for them to get this kid.

and besides if they don't drop CP3 or Harden where the hell do they play this kid?

For me Trey Young is the only player that can be an all-star type player the first year in the league. To me because of that his value is pick 1-3. If the Rockets want him, to me they would have to have enough value for a 1-3 pick.

You think Young can be an all Star next year?

[PhilBlackson]

Rockets don't even have a first rounder and outside of the two guys you mentioned (and Capela) don't really have any tradeable assets. There isn't any way for them to get this kid.

and besides if they don't drop CP3 or Harden where the hell do they play this kid?

For me Trey Young is the only player that can be an all-star type player the first year in the league. To me because of that his value is pick 1-3. If the Rockets want him, to me they would have to have enough value for a 1-3 pick.

I'm willing to bet he's not an all-star in his 1st year and unless HOU is giving up Harden or CP3 (which they obviously won't) no they absolutely do not have a package worth a top 3 pick especially if you really did believe you have a player good enough to be an all-star in their 1st year in the league understanding how rare that is.

[doordoor123]

and besides if they don't drop CP3 or Harden where the hell do they play this kid?

For me Trey Young is the only player that can be an all-star type player the first year in the league. To me because of that his value is pick 1-3. If the Rockets want him, to me they would have to have enough value for a 1-3 pick.

I'm willing to bet he's not an all-star in his 1st year and unless HOU is giving up Harden or CP3 (which they obviously won't) no they absolutely do not have a package worth a top 3 pick especially if you really did believe you have a player good enough to be an all-star in their 1st year in the league understanding how rare that is.

I’m not saying he’s going to be an all-star, but an all-star type, a la Damian Lillard when he entered the league. Someone that looks like he’s going to be an all-star in the future for a long time.

[J_T]

For me Trey Young is the only player that can be an all-star type player the first year in the league. To me because of that his value is pick 1-3. If the Rockets want him, to me they would have to have enough value for a 1-3 pick.

I'm willing to bet he's not an all-star in his 1st year and unless HOU is giving up Harden or CP3 (which they obviously won't) no they absolutely do not have a package worth a top 3 pick especially if you really did believe you have a player good enough to be an all-star in their 1st year in the league understanding how rare that is.

I’m not saying he’s going to be an all-star, but an all-star type, a la Damian Lillard when he entered the league. Someone that looks like he’s going to be an all-star in the future for a long time.

So you are saying he will be the only future AS player from this draft?

[blazeyo]

I'm willing to bet he's not an all-star in his 1st year and unless HOU is giving up Harden or CP3 (which they obviously won't) no they absolutely do not have a package worth a top 3 pick especially if you really did believe you have a player good enough to be an all-star in their 1st year in the league understanding how rare that is.

I’m not saying he’s going to be an all-star, but an all-star type, a la Damian Lillard when he entered the league. Someone that looks like he’s going to be an all-star in the future for a long time.

So you are saying he will be the only future AS player from this draft?

No. Read again smart guy.

[J_T]

I’m not saying he’s going to be an all-star, but an all-star type, a la Damian Lillard when he entered the league. Someone that looks like he’s going to be an all-star in the future for a long time.

So you are saying he will be the only future AS player from this draft?

No. Read again smart guy.

I'd prefer him explaining, I don't have trust in your reading comprehension.

[doordoor123]

I’m not saying he’s going to be an all-star, but an all-star type, a la Damian Lillard when he entered the league. Someone that looks like he’s going to be an all-star in the future for a long time.

So you are saying he will be the only future AS player from this draft?

No. Read again smart guy.

And to be honest, I’m not completely sure he should be #1, but he’s enough of a sure thing for me that should at least guarantee top 3. There might be players better than Damian Lillard in this draft and if there are, it’s either Doncic, Porter or a sleeper no one has even considered. I’m still very high on Hamidou Diallo too. If he had a jump shot he would be a top 5 player. And he cares about improving a lot too. He’s more skilled than he has shown, he reads the defense really well, he’s going to be a good offfensive rebounder, plays hard on defense, he’s really quick, has huge hands, huge vertical and has great quick-twitch movements. He might need some developing, but I would be shocked if isn’t at least a starting player on a team. He’s skinny, but he’s also strong. He doesn’t have the skills to take advantage of how well he reads the floor yet, but if he develops his shot, post game and handle he can be ridiculously good. He’s a similar prospect to Wiggins for me, but might have some qualities that could make him a better prospect.

[SeattleJazzFan]

Trae Young should ideally be used the way he is used in Oklahoma. Give him the keys to the offense, surround him with shooters and rim runners, and let them run whenever possible. Sort of like Harden in Houston. Of course he has to prove himself worthy of that first, and some off-ball experience will only benefit him in the long run. But you want to groom him to take over your team's offense soon if you pick him with a high – say top five – pick and make full use of his potential.

This is exactly right. if you're using a top 5 pick on him, let him be him, turn it over to him, and as you say, surround him with shooters and bigs who can finish at the rim. he's not like Harden physically, but in terms of their offensive games, that is who he is most like at this point so surround him with players with similar skills and turn him loose for 30-40 games. if he busts or can't do in the NBA what he does in college, your team sucks ass anyway - you haven't lost anything. if he can get it done, you won't be in the lottery much longer.

[Duke4life831]

Trae Young should ideally be used the way he is used in Oklahoma. Give him the keys to the offense, surround him with shooters and rim runners, and let them run whenever possible. Sort of like Harden in Houston. Of course he has to prove himself worthy of that first, and some off-ball experience will only benefit him in the long run. But you want to groom him to take over your team's offense soon if you pick him with a high – say top five – pick and make full use of his potential.

Im clearly not his biggest fan, but I agree with this 100%. If you take him top 5, you gotta just hand the entire thing over to him and hope he can replicate what hes doing in college. If you try to change him up, lower his USG, stop him from taking his crazy shots, well then hes not top 5 pick worthy at all. He just becomes another small PG that isnt a great athlete that can shoot. A huge chunk of what makes him so special in college is the freedom he has. You take him high, you gotta take the huge risk and give him that freedom and hope he can bring it to the NBA.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Sacramento is the most interest fit I see though Fox would have to stay as bench PG.

But we know their owner wants the next Curry.

[The-Power]

Sacramento is the most interest fit I see though Fox would have to stay as bench PG.

But we know their owner wants the next Curry.

Fox really shouldn't be the reason not to draft Young if you consider him BPA.

[JohnWillow]

I know Sacramento have Fox but they don't have anyone averaging more than 12 points except Z-Bo.

He could come in and take 20 shots.

I love Trae Young.

He is on top of my wishlist.

Doncic, Young that's it right now.

[SlowPaced]

Sacramento is the most interest fit I see though Fox would have to stay as bench PG.

But we know their owner wants the next Curry.

You can always trade a player like Fox. Young high lottery pick.

[baldur]

he climbs up rapidly. now he is 3rd pick in nbadraft.net's mock draft. he was out of top ten a few weeks ago.

[doordoor123]

he climbs up rapidly. now he is 3rd pick in nbadraft.net's mock draft. he was out of top ten a few weeks ago.

Lol I also have him #3. I should have posted my big board before them. Now it’ll look like I copied them.

[CROklahoma]

LOL, congrats to anyone who picks this guy over someone like Doncic ...

[doordoor123]

LOL, congrats to anyone who picks this guy over someone like Doncic ...

I don’t think anyone is picking him over Doncic

[Skin]

Why are we even acting that stats even matter in college?

We have seen over and over again that stats, especially volume scoring is almost completely non-predictive as a predictor of NBA production.

Tools, trajectory, mentality and skillset (or lack of) matter. Young doesn't rank too high on my scale in these aspects. Since McLemore, I don't give one apple about any guard prospect without tools. I also don't expect anyone to find the next Curry or Nash, nabbing a prospect like them late in the draft is practically pure luck.

Have you watched him or have you only looked at box scores?

Just wondering how you could watch him and not come away thinking he has tools, trajectory, mentality or skillset.

The first thing that pops off the page is his excellent ball handling. Ball handling to me is the one skill that fuels potential because if a player can maneuver wherever they want to on the court, then that opens up the full gambit of things that can ultimately do. A player who stumbles with the ball is dead in their tracks... and rarely does a player improve ball handling once they are in the NBA. If they do, the gains are small.

His court vision and passing ability are also at a high level. His teammates need to be sharp in their attention to the ball.

The fearless mentality he possess can be good and bad, but nothing is more frustrating than seeing a guy open but being unwilling to take the shot. cough Elfrid Payton cough.

I get it. Stats can be misleading and his usage rate is really high. But his efficiencies do not lie and his leadership has stood out for his 10-1 Oklahoma team.

I admit his style looks wild and it caught me off guard at first, but I still couldn't deny the skills and intangibles. You're going to have to justify the "lack of skillset" if you're going to blurt it out like it's close to the truth.

[JohnWillow]

LOL, congrats to anyone who picks this guy over someone like Doncic ...

Well, I haven't heard anyone who has said that they would pick Trae over Doncic.

Why would you even bring this up?