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Re: Off-season plan 

Post#21 » by Chi town » Mon Dec 25, 2017 6:24 am

1. DrafT BPA which will be a OLB. 2nd round trade up or back for a CB or WR. Same in 3rd.

2. Trade for a WR with a 5th or 6th. A vet that can play. Similar to the Sammy watkins deal.

3. Sign a WR and ILB in FA.

Fox will be gone and Pace will hire who he thinks will develop Money Mitch.
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Post#22 » by Truebiscuit » Tue Dec 26, 2017 6:05 pm

I think for sure that Glennon, McPhee, and Freeman are goners.

Sitton might be on the bubble... dude is getting older and is pretty banged up.

Sims is hit-or-miss IMO, if he grades out well in blocking I could see us keeping him and Shaheen as the future.

Wheaton could be whacked as well.
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Re: Off-season plan 

Post#23 » by Axxo » Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:00 pm

Truebiscuit wrote:I think for sure that Glennon, McPhee, and Freeman are goners.

Sitton might be on the bubble... dude is getting older and is pretty banged up.

Sims is hit-or-miss IMO, if he grades out well in blocking I could see us keeping him and Shaheen as the future.

Wheaton could be whacked as well.

I would add M.Cooper, Q.Demps and B.Massie on top of what you have there in thec1st wave
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Re: Off-season plan 

Post#24 » by Truebiscuit » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:32 pm

Axxo wrote:
Truebiscuit wrote:I think for sure that Glennon, McPhee, and Freeman are goners.

Sitton might be on the bubble... dude is getting older and is pretty banged up.

Sims is hit-or-miss IMO, if he grades out well in blocking I could see us keeping him and Shaheen as the future.

Wheaton could be whacked as well.

I would add M.Cooper, Q.Demps and B.Massie on top of what you have there in thec1st wave


Cooper I may keep around unless we draft his replacement.

Agreed on Demps... read that he has nerve damage so he's a goner.

Massie has been mediocre, but I'd treat it the same way as Cooper... he's fine unless we find a replacement.
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Re: Off-season plan 

Post#25 » by patryk7754 » Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:55 pm

Off-Season Plan V2.0

Fire Fox
Retain Fangio
Sign Jim Harbaugh

Starting Cap: $46,686,435

Cuts:
Mike Glennon, Save $11,500,000
Pernell McPhee, Save $7,075,000
Dion Sims, Save $5,666,666
Markus Wheaton, Save $5,000,00
Quintin Demps, Save $3,666,666

Cap After Cuts: $79.594,767

Re-Signings
Kyle Fuller, CB: 3 years 22 million
Sherrick McManis, CB 1 year 1.5 million
Christian Jones, ILB 1 year 1.5 million
Kendall Wright, WR 2 year 7 million
Mitch Unrein, DE 1 year 1.4 million
Benny Cunningham, RB: 1 year 2 million
Josh Bellemy, WR: 1 year 775,000
Sam Acho, OLB: 2 year 4.5 million
Pat O'Donnell, P: 2 years 5 million
Marc Sanchez, QB: 1 year 2 million

Cap after Re-signings: $54,836,434

Free Agency
Ryan Fitzpatrick, QB: 1 year 3 million
Jarvis Landry, WR: 5 years 70 million
Allen Robinson, WR: 1 year 5.5 million
Trey Burton, TE: 2 years 7 million
Jason Peters (Assuming he's cut), LT: 1 year 6 million
Connor Barwin, OLB: 2 years 7 million
Sheldon Richardson, DE: 4 years 48 million
Courtney Upshaw, DE: 1 year 1.25 million
Akeem Ayers, OLB: 1 year 800,000
Adam Vinatieri, K: 1 year 3,000,000

Cap after Free Agency: $2,286,434

Draft
-Trade 2nd and 5th to move into later part of the 1st
Round 1: Bradley Chubb, OLB/DE
Round 1: Josh Jackson, CB
Round 4: Desmond Harrison, OT
Round 4: J.C. Jackson, CB
Round 6: Kahlil McKenzie Jr, NT
Round 7: Da'Shawn Hand, DE
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Re: Off-season plan 

Post#26 » by Truebiscuit » Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:13 pm

I don't think Chubb will be there at 9, my friend, and Pace loves trading down in the second round.
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Post#27 » by patryk7754 » Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:01 pm

Truebiscuit wrote:I don't think Chubb will be there at 9, my friend, and Pace loves trading down in the second round.

Yeah. It’s more hopeful than anything. Arden key might be there because apparently he has off the field issues. Roquon Smith will most likely be there and he’d be my third option
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Re: Off-season plan 

Post#28 » by Truebiscuit » Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:05 pm

patryk7754 wrote:
Truebiscuit wrote:I don't think Chubb will be there at 9, my friend, and Pace loves trading down in the second round.

Yeah. It’s more hopeful than anything. Arden key might be there because apparently he has off the field issues. Roquon Smith will most likely be there and he’d be my third option


I hated the Kevin White pick when it happened... and unless you're some gamebreaker I don't really like taking WRs high in round 1.

But man... if Calvin Ridley is there and Chubb/Fitzpatrick are gone... I'd have a hard time not making that move.

Clelin Ferrell out of Clemson is another name I like.
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Re: Off-season plan 

Post#29 » by patryk7754 » Thu Dec 28, 2017 1:59 am

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Truebiscuit wrote:I don't think Chubb will be there at 9, my friend, and Pace loves trading down in the second round.

Yeah. It’s more hopeful than anything. Arden key might be there because apparently he has off the field issues. Roquon Smith will most likely be there and he’d be my third option


I hated the Kevin White pick when it happened... and unless you're some gamebreaker I don't really like taking WRs high in round 1.

But man... if Calvin Ridley is there and Chubb/Fitzpatrick are gone... I'd have a hard time not making that move.

Clelin Ferrell out of Clemson is another name I like.

Ridley is my guy if we don’t sign any WRs in free agency but in my scenario we get two number ones so there’s really no need for a WR in the first and soon we’ll need someone to replace young on the outside
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Re: Off-season plan 

Post#30 » by City of Trees » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:18 am

REPLACE Massie. The Bears cannot afford an open door to remain at RT.


Watch Massie. Dude is trash and a big problem for the offense


I really like Connor Williams. Martinas Rankin in the 2nd would be unbelievable.
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Re: Off-season plan 

Post#31 » by heir_jordan22 » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:49 am

PART ONE: COACH AND SCHEME

If Harbaugh wants to return to the NFL, sign him.
He'd keep Fangio.
He'd upgrade OC (DeFilippo?).

Cap Space $46.7mil

Cuts and savings:
(must go)
Glennon 11.5
(should prioritize upgrades)
McPhee 7.07
Massie 5.6
Wheaton 5
(other candidates)
Sims 5.67
Cooper 4.5

I considered adding Demps and Sitton. Demps won't be starting but would only save 3.67, provides excellent depth in case of injury, can provide some veteran leadership to the whole squad of young safeties, and will allow Fangio to use various 3-safety packages like he did in SF. Sitton would save 8, but he is too damn good to cut and Long can't stay healthy, so we definitely need him. In 2019 I would probably ask him to take a paycut, but he's worth every penny right now.

Ideally we put ourselves in a position through free agency and the draft to cut the top 4 players on that cut list.

Top Priority Re-Signings
Fuller 8-12mil/year
Goldman (extension) 4-6/yr
Sanchez 2
Cunningham 1-2
O'Donnell 2-3
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Post#32 » by heir_jordan22 » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:20 am

PART TWO: ROSTER (plus free agent targets)

QB: Trubisky, Sanchez (Fitzpatrick, Shaw)

RB: Howard, Cohen, Cunningham, Burton

WR1: (Demaryius Thomas/Davante Adams/Dez Bryant 10-13mil)
WR2: Cameron Meredith
WR 3: 1st or 2nd round pick
WR 4: (Wright/Amendola/Grant 1.5-3mil for 3 years)
WR 5: Kevin White
WR 6: (Inman/Bellamy/Latimer for 1mil)

TE: Sims, Shaheen, Braunecker, Brown
Young tight ends stepping up allows Sims to be cut. Can add a guy with a lot of upside (Troy Niklas)

OL starters: Leno, Long, Whitehair, Sitton, (Massie or 1st/2nd rounder)
OL backups: Sowell, Kush, Grasu, Morgan (RT Compton/other)

DL: Hicks, Goldman 4-7mil, Bullard, RRH
need one DE: (Dominique Easley/Sharrif Floyd/Cedric Thornton/Denico Autry)
need one NT: (Phil Taylor/Mike Pennel/John Jenkins)

Starting LB: Floyd, Freeman, Trevathan, (Ansah/Lawrence 10-15mil or 1st/2nd rounder)
Backup LB: Young, Kwiatkowski, (Jones/Anderson/Timu 1-1.5mil), (Houston/Acho/Aaron Lynch 2-3mil)

CB: Fuller 8-12mil, Cooper, Callahan, LeBlanc, Hall, McManis
If we get one in the draft then Cooper is expendable

Safety: Jackson, Amos, Demps, Bush, DHC

Special Teams: O'Donnell, Santos/other, Scales/DePaolo
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Re: Off-season plan 

Post#33 » by heir_jordan22 » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:43 am

PART THREE: DRAFT

We can trade down with a QB needy team to pick up a second or third round pick.

WR: we must draft a WR in round 1 or 2. That is in addition to signing a top flight FA. Which round depends on the board.

OLB: If we cut McPhee and do not sign Ansah or Lawrence, then we must draft an OLB in round 1 or 2.

OL: If we have McPhee, Ansah or Lawrence, then we can cut Massie and draft OT in round 1 or 2.
If we keep Massie, we should draft OT later to develop.

CB: If we have McPhee, Ansah or Lawrence, then we can cut Cooper and draft CB in round 1 or 2.
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Re: Off-season plan 

Post#34 » by Axxo » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:54 pm

heir_jordan22 wrote:PART THREE: DRAFT

We can trade down with a QB needy team to pick up a second or third round pick.

WR: we must draft a WR in round 1 or 2. That is in addition to signing a top flight FA. Which round depends on the board.

OLB: If we cut McPhee and do not sign Ansah or Lawrence, then we must draft an OLB in round 1 or 2.

OL: If we have McPhee, Ansah or Lawrence, then we can cut Massie and draft OT in round 1 or 2.
If we keep Massie, we should draft OT later to develop.

CB: If we have McPhee, Ansah or Lawrence, then we can cut Cooper and draft CB in round 1 or 2.

We could have traded down like this if we were going to be in top 5. Thats what I was saying earlier. We won just enough games not to have a top 5 pick. Right now we are projected to be 9th. None of the top rated QBs will be left by then. Even if SF and Denver win their last games we still couldnt get top 5 mabe 6th or 7th at best.
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Re: Off-season plan 

Post#35 » by heir_jordan22 » Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:10 pm

Axxo wrote:
heir_jordan22 wrote:PART THREE: DRAFT

We can trade down with a QB needy team to pick up a second or third round pick.

WR: we must draft a WR in round 1 or 2. That is in addition to signing a top flight FA. Which round depends on the board.

OLB: If we cut McPhee and do not sign Ansah or Lawrence, then we must draft an OLB in round 1 or 2.

OL: If we have McPhee, Ansah or Lawrence, then we can cut Massie and draft OT in round 1 or 2.
If we keep Massie, we should draft OT later to develop.

CB: If we have McPhee, Ansah or Lawrence, then we can cut Cooper and draft CB in round 1 or 2.

We could have traded down like this if we were going to be in top 5. Thats what I was saying earlier. We won just enough games not to have a top 5 pick. Right now we are projected to be 9th. None of the top rated QBs will be left by then. Even if SF and Denver win their last games we still couldnt get top 5 mabe 6th or 7th at best.


As long as we get ahead of either Denver or NYJ then we can have a situation where Buffalo, Arizona or Washington wants to trade with us. If we get ahead of both of them then that's another suitor.

Cleveland and NYG are almost guaranteed to take QB at 1 and 2. There are three or four who could go top 10. So we want to get ahead of at least one of DEN or NYJ to create a bidding war. Mahomes apparently will start for the Chiefs, so hopefully DEN gets the win. NYJ play NE. We'll have to see what happens this weekend.

Either way, we can still have a good draft.
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Re: Off-season plan 

Post#36 » by Axxo » Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:48 pm

heir_jordan22 wrote:
Axxo wrote:
heir_jordan22 wrote:PART THREE: DRAFT

We can trade down with a QB needy team to pick up a second or third round pick.

WR: we must draft a WR in round 1 or 2. That is in addition to signing a top flight FA. Which round depends on the board.

OLB: If we cut McPhee and do not sign Ansah or Lawrence, then we must draft an OLB in round 1 or 2.

OL: If we have McPhee, Ansah or Lawrence, then we can cut Massie and draft OT in round 1 or 2.
If we keep Massie, we should draft OT later to develop.

CB: If we have McPhee, Ansah or Lawrence, then we can cut Cooper and draft CB in round 1 or 2.

We could have traded down like this if we were going to be in top 5. Thats what I was saying earlier. We won just enough games not to have a top 5 pick. Right now we are projected to be 9th. None of the top rated QBs will be left by then. Even if SF and Denver win their last games we still couldnt get top 5 mabe 6th or 7th at best.


As long as we get ahead of either Denver or NYJ then we can have a situation where Buffalo, Arizona or Washington wants to trade with us. If we get ahead of both of them then that's another suitor.

Cleveland and NYG are almost guaranteed to take QB at 1 and 2. There are three or four who could go top 10. So we want to get ahead of at least one of DEN or NYJ to create a bidding war. Mahomes apparently will start for the Chiefs, so hopefully DEN gets the win. NYJ play NE. We'll have to see what happens this weekend.

Either way, we can still have a good draft.


Yeah alot of teams who are worse than their record suggests (like the Packers) wish they could be in the top 10.

Just want to point out some prospects are considering staying for another year. Sequon Barkley who is projected top 5 even at RB isn't sure he'll declare. Rosen is reconsidering his declaration. If they don't come out that weakens the value of other picks outside the top 5.
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Re: Off-season plan 

Post#37 » by City of Trees » Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:25 pm

Trading up for a QB isnt the only play for a trade here.. If Rosen, Jackson, Allen, ect go top 7 you will see teams in the teens looking to trade up for non QB position players at 8-12. Bears wete one of those teams a few years ago (L. Floyd)

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Post#38 » by City of Trees » Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:30 pm

At this point in time im not so sure trading down from 9 is a good idea.

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Post#39 » by City of Trees » Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:36 pm

OT Connor Williams might be my favorite player in the top 10. LG Quenton Nelson is also pretty **** amazing.

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Post#40 » by heir_jordan22 » Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:14 am

Trading down only makes sense if we have a slightly higher pick and these guys all come out this year.

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