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Re: All-Star Dwight Howard 

Post#21 » by tiderulz » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:08 am

DeathLineup wrote:Dwight has had an All-Star worthy season. Charlotte are currently 13-22, 13th seed.

Which team should try to get him?

Dwight Howard - born 1985 - $23,500,000|$23,819,725 - 15.9 PPG|12.4 RPG|1.3 BLKPG



if he wasnt such a locker room cancer, it might be easier to move him
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Re: All-Star Dwight Howard 

Post#22 » by Laimbeer » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:17 am

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Re: All-Star Dwight Howard 

Post#23 » by anthony00 » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:19 am

tiderulz wrote:
DeathLineup wrote:Dwight has had an All-Star worthy season. Charlotte are currently 13-22, 13th seed.

Which team should try to get him?

Dwight Howard - born 1985 - $23,500,000|$23,819,725 - 15.9 PPG|12.4 RPG|1.3 BLKPG



if he wasnt such a locker room cancer, it might be easier to move him

he has been solid this season
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Re: All-Star Dwight Howard 

Post#24 » by tiderulz » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:24 am

anthony00 wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
DeathLineup wrote:Dwight has had an All-Star worthy season. Charlotte are currently 13-22, 13th seed.

Which team should try to get him?

Dwight Howard - born 1985 - $23,500,000|$23,819,725 - 15.9 PPG|12.4 RPG|1.3 BLKPG



if he wasnt such a locker room cancer, it might be easier to move him

he has been solid this season


he has been a cancer everywhere he has been. thats why teams and teammates havent been upset when he left. LA, Houston, Atlanta, Orlando. as soon as he is gone from Charlotte, we will hear things from there too
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Re: All-Star Dwight Howard 

Post#25 » by anthony00 » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:26 am

tiderulz wrote:
anthony00 wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
if he wasnt such a locker room cancer, it might be easier to move him

he has been solid this season


he has been a cancer everywhere he has been. thats why teams and teammates havent been upset when he left. LA, Houston, Atlanta, Orlando. as soon as he is gone from Charlotte, we will hear things from there too

i guess
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Re: All-Star Dwight Howard 

Post#26 » by BeesWax » Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:48 am

anthony00 wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
anthony00 wrote: he has been solid this season


he has been a cancer everywhere he has been. thats why teams and teammates havent been upset when he left. LA, Houston, Atlanta, Orlando. as soon as he is gone from Charlotte, we will hear things from there too

i guess

We can see but I doubt you will hear anything from here. He has been great by all accounts and everyone says our locker room has been solid this year. It was a concern for us coming in because of his past but I think some of that stems from certain egos he hasn't gotten along with other places. We will see though.
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Re: Dwight Howard an All-Star 

Post#27 » by Case2012 » Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:04 am

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NYG wrote:Indiana, Milwaukee, Portland and Toronto come to mind.


I don't think anyone from Portland will want Howard, I think they are content to ride this out with Nurkic.


I've wanted Howard for years. I would start him over Nurk.
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Re: All-Star Dwight Howard 

Post#28 » by Qwigglez » Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:16 am

Suns get -
Kemba Walker
Dwight Howard

Hornets get-
Greg Monroe (expiring)
Tyson Chandler
2018 Miami 1st
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Re: All-Star Dwight Howard 

Post#29 » by penbeast0 » Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:17 am

Washington would have to deal Mahinmi (to match contracts), Gortat (to avoid the ego issues) and our 1st (to provide value) for Howard and a small salary matching contract (MCW) plus a 2nd (to have SOMEONE young coming in to develop). That's about the best we can do without tearing up our core with Howard's contract.
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Re: All-Star Dwight Howard 

Post#30 » by yellowknifer » Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:31 am

Jonas is better than Dwight.

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Re: All-Star Dwight Howard 

Post#31 » by TheBrooklynKidd » Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:37 am

babyjax13 wrote:Cleveland trades: IT, Tristain Thompson, 2018 CLE 1st, 2018 BYK 1st
Cleveland receives: Kemba Walker, Dwight Howard

Denver trades: 2018 1st, Emmanuel Mudiay, Juancho Hernangomez
Denver receives: IT

Charlotte trades: Kemba, Howard
Charlotte receives: 2018 DEN 1st, 2018 BYK 1st, 2018 CLE 1st, Tristain Thompson, Mudiay, Hernangomez

Not sure if this quite works salary wise, just a rough shot.


Cleveland gives up waaaaaaaay too much here.

I also don’t see how Dwight and Kemba bring back 3 1sts and young players.
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Post#32 » by DeathLineup » Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:54 am

Mr Swagtastic wrote:Toronto probably kicks the tires on a deal. Problem is Howard obviously is talented but to me has a ego problem or something along those lines. He's gone/been on really good teams and just regressed them. Look at what happened in Los Angeles, Orlando, Atlanta and Houston. He went to teams that had legit shots at making NBA Finals appearances or winning and turned them into less then successful teams.

If I am Toronto I am keeping guys like Jakob Poeltl OG Anunoby, Pascal Siakam, DeRozan, Lowry and Wright off the table plus future picks.

So unless they want say Fred VanVleet or Bebe Nogueira plus Jonas Valanciunas that's our best offer

Damn that should be nice.

Structure the minutes so Toronto would always have one of Lowry or DeRozan on court playing together with one of Ibaka or Howard all 48 minutes.
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Re: All-Star Dwight Howard 

Post#33 » by Domejandro » Sun Dec 31, 2017 9:05 am

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jdm3 wrote:I think the problem with trading Dwight is getting anything of value for him. The Minny deal above isn't a very good deal for Charlotte but the value seems about there but the contracts are worse with the time left on Dieng and Shabazz expiring. The Bucks or Wizards could be interesting depending on what the deal is but it seems like you end up taking a smaller but longer contract for a lesser player which just doesn't seem very attractive. I guess it just depends on if there is any sweetener that a team would throw in.

I don't think MIN can do this deal anyway. I can't see them altering their plan to develop Towns as a stretch-5 by adding Howard. And if the Wolves added $18 mil in salary next season, the lux tax implications would be crushing.

Counting the Draft Pick, the trade I proposed would only add 4.8 million dollars. I also don't see the bizarre fixation on keeping Karl-Anthony Towns at the Center position, he can develop equally fine at either position; if anything, having a rebounder like Dwight Howard next to him would really help take pressure off of him.
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Re: Dwight Howard an All-Star 

Post#34 » by shrink » Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:41 pm

Domejandro wrote:Counting the Draft Pick, the trade I proposed would only add 4.8 million dollars. I also don't see the bizarre fixation on keeping Karl-Anthony Towns at the Center position, he can develop equally fine at either position; if anything, having a rebounder like Dwight Howard next to him would really help take pressure off of him.

My bad! i glanced at the contracts, and assumed Marvin Williams, was Michael-Carter Williams.

The reason people want to see Towns develop as a stretch-5 is because offensively, he would be nearly impossible to defend by most opposing centers, with his outside game, handle, and post moves. Many teams are trying to use their more mobile 4 to slow him down, but if the Wolves have another 4 on the floor, then it becomes really hard to defend. A player with his skillset is rare, and the future of the Wolves franchise is Towns, and they will do all they can to maximize his potential.
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Re: All-Star Dwight Howard 

Post#35 » by warren weel im » Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:47 pm

The Lakers are interested. OH wait this is already 2018...
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Re: Dwight Howard an All-Star 

Post#36 » by Domejandro » Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:50 pm

shrink wrote:
Domejandro wrote:Counting the Draft Pick, the trade I proposed would only add 4.8 million dollars. I also don't see the bizarre fixation on keeping Karl-Anthony Towns at the Center position, he can develop equally fine at either position; if anything, having a rebounder like Dwight Howard next to him would really help take pressure off of him.

My bad! i glanced at the contracts, and assumed Marvin Williams, was Michael-Carter Williams.

The reason people want to see Towns develop as a stretch-5 is because offensively, he would be nearly impossible to defend by most opposing centers, with his outside game, handle, and post moves. Many teams are trying to use their more mobile 4 to slow him down, but if the Wolves have another 4 on the floor, then it becomes really hard to defend. A player with his skillset is rare, and the future of the Wolves franchise is Towns, and they will do all they can to maximize his potential.

All good, I was confused given that you generally are the cap-guy, haha.

In any case, Towns already draws the better defender with Taj (who is also a damn good player), so I don’t think the difference would be too much. In all honesty, I feel it would help Towns a lot to not have to face guys like Steven Adams and Deandre Jordan (who just eviscerate him every time). Given his size, Towns already is able to abuse Power-Forwards, in my opinion; not making him have to get demolished by the physical monsters out there would make him an even bigger match-up nightmare.

I just kind of feel that Dwight Howard would give Minnesota something a bit different that would pretty much cover them on every match-up (because Minnesota, as it stands, is in trouble against Adams in the playoffs).
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Post#37 » by rugbyrugger23 » Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:50 pm

Howard + Lamb for Cousins + Hill

MJ takes chance on expiring Cousins becoming superstar duo with Walker.

NOP creates a 2 year window for 2019 offseason, the last offseason before Davis can bolt. 2019 offseason they align all contracts for a 1 max free agent and 1 high priced FA to join Davis and Holiday.
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Re: All-Star Dwight Howard 

Post#38 » by rugbyrugger23 » Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:54 pm

TheBrooklynKidd wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:Cleveland trades: IT, Tristain Thompson, 2018 CLE 1st, 2018 BYK 1st
Cleveland receives: Kemba Walker, Dwight Howard

Denver trades: 2018 1st, Emmanuel Mudiay, Juancho Hernangomez
Denver receives: IT

Charlotte trades: Kemba, Howard
Charlotte receives: 2018 DEN 1st, 2018 BYK 1st, 2018 CLE 1st, Tristain Thompson, Mudiay, Hernangomez

Not sure if this quite works salary wise, just a rough shot.


Cleveland gives up waaaaaaaay too much here.

I also don’t see how Dwight and Kemba bring back 3 1sts and young players.

I don think Cavs give up enough. Cavs 30th pick isn't enough to dump TT (they can't trade both picks anyway). IT is injured and expiring. I don't think the Nets 1st, looking to be 6-10 gets you even Walker alone.
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Re: All-Star Dwight Howard 

Post#39 » by rugbyrugger23 » Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:56 pm

Qwigglez wrote:Suns get -
Kemba Walker
Dwight Howard

Hornets get-
Greg Monroe (expiring)
Tyson Chandler
2018 Miami 1st
2021 Miami 1st
Bucks 1st (protection is weird)

Not sure why Suns would do this, but that is got to be most value Hornets can get.
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Re: Dwight Howard an All-Star 

Post#40 » by Soulyss » Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:59 pm

Case2012 wrote:
Soulyss wrote:
NYG wrote:Indiana, Milwaukee, Portland and Toronto come to mind.


I don't think anyone from Portland will want Howard, I think they are content to ride this out with Nurkic.


I've wanted Howard for years. I would start him over Nurk.


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