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G A M E D A Y: Spurs (25-11) @ Pistons (19-15), 30 Dec, 6PM Central 

Post#1 » by -Sammy- » Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:51 pm

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It's a rematch of the 2005 NBA Finals!

While that approach to tonight's game is admittedly myopic, it's worth observing that two Spurs who played in that series are suiting up for this tilt-- and we'll need them to play well, with Rudy Gay shelved for a couple of weeks with heel bursitis. Everyone else for the good guys is slated to play, so we'll be looking for Kawhi to continue his slow return to form.

For the much-improved Motor City mob, Reggie Jackson is shelved with a sprained ankle, but everyone else is green-lit, so expect leading-scorer Tobias Harris to exploit whatever minutes-restriction Pop enforces with Leonard; hopefully the Spurs will be able to contain him and to limit league-#2-rebounder Andre Drummond's board work.

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Post#2 » by Nolan » Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:52 pm

This is gonna be a fun one (as every game is really). The Pistons are without Reggie Jackson but we can't sleep on Ish Smith either, he's one of the more underrated PG's in the league and is just a dude that just finds way to make plays.

I'm curious to see how Pops is going to handle Harris, I doubt he switches up the starting five and I can't see Pau being able to keep up with him at all. So I guess he's LMA's? And Pau gets Drummond? Matchups are going to be a huge part of this game.
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Post#4 » by imagump1313 » Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:34 pm

I was going to go but I've elected to stay home instead of sit in an empty arena :lol:

I liked our chances before Reggie Jackson went out. He could single-handedly win a game for the Spurs. With I. Smith this is a much better overall team and they will play like it.

Keys are to keep Drummond off the glass as much as possible and dont let Tobias Harris go off. Otherwise they dont have much to beat you. But they WILL play much more like we do(a team) with Jackson out so it wont be easy.
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Post#5 » by Nolan » Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:54 pm

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Looks the Pistons are going big which means we throw Kawhi or Green at Harris.
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Post#6 » by Nolan » Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:59 pm

The bench battle is going to be huge tonight. Pistons are thin without Bradley, Leuer, Johnson and Jackson. The bench mob can blow this one wide open if they bring it.
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Post#8 » by G R E Y » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:50 am

imagump1313 wrote:I was going to go but I've elected to stay home instead of sit in an empty arena :lol:

I liked out chances before Reggie Jackson went out. He could single-handedly win a game for the Spurs. With I. Smith this is a much better overall team and they will play like it.

Keys are to keep Drummond off the glass as much as possible and dont let Tobias Harris go off. Otherwise they dont have much to beat you. But they WILL play much more like we do(a team) with Jackson out so it wont be easy.

This is mystifying. They're in the middle of the pack in the top 8, with a very good HOME record.
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Post#9 » by Milenkovic » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:52 am

This is a rough game
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Post#10 » by imagump1313 » Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:12 am

Ugly game and like I said, Detroit will play motivated and together because Jackson isnt there. We have shot terribly soo far. I think we are ok but the careless turnovers and poor shot selection are killing us.
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Post#11 » by imagump1313 » Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:14 am

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imagump1313 wrote:I was going to go but I've elected to stay home instead of sit in an empty arena :lol:

I liked out chances before Reggie Jackson went out. He could single-handedly win a game for the Spurs. With I. Smith this is a much better overall team and they will play like it.

Keys are to keep Drummond off the glass as much as possible and dont let Tobias Harris go off. Otherwise they dont have much to beat you. But they WILL play much more like we do(a team) with Jackson out so it wont be easy.

This is mystifying. They're in the middle of the pack in the top 8, with a very good HOME record.


The Pistons are what they are, a 6-8 seed in the East if they play well and a lottery team if they dont. They do play decent defense so they can give anyone trouble on certain nights. Their record reflects November/December basketball IMO. Come spring when teams pay much more attention to detail, they will be .500 or under. (Unless Reggie Jackson the team killer is still out) :D
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Post#12 » by imagump1313 » Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:16 am

Is it me or does Danny Green really look like he is lumbering out there? He really looks like he is still hurt.
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Post#13 » by imagump1313 » Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:17 am

OMG, the Detroit announcers are driving me insane. Worst announcers in the league. They are beyond homers and they talk to you like you are a 60 year old retired woman who has never watched a basketball game before...
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Post#14 » by G R E Y » Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:26 am

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GREY 1769 wrote:
imagump1313 wrote:I was going to go but I've elected to stay home instead of sit in an empty arena :lol:

I liked out chances before Reggie Jackson went out. He could single-handedly win a game for the Spurs. With I. Smith this is a much better overall team and they will play like it.

Keys are to keep Drummond off the glass as much as possible and dont let Tobias Harris go off. Otherwise they dont have much to beat you. But they WILL play much more like we do(a team) with Jackson out so it wont be easy.

This is mystifying. They're in the middle of the pack in the top 8, with a very good HOME record.


The Pistons are what they are, a 6-8 seed in the East if they play well and a lottery team if they dont. They do play decent defense so they can give anyone trouble on certain nights. Their record reflects November/December basketball IMO. Come spring when teams pay much more attention to detail, they will be .500 or under. (Unless Reggie Jackson the team killer is still out) :D

I just meant that the stands are empty as if they're the Hawks. I'm surprised they don't have more home court support in general. Seems like Detroit fans are pretty nonchalant about their team.
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Post#15 » by imagump1313 » Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:35 am

GREY 1769 wrote:
imagump1313 wrote:
GREY 1769 wrote:This is mystifying. They're in the middle of the pack in the top 8, with a very good HOME record.


The Pistons are what they are, a 6-8 seed in the East if they play well and a lottery team if they dont. They do play decent defense so they can give anyone trouble on certain nights. Their record reflects November/December basketball IMO. Come spring when teams pay much more attention to detail, they will be .500 or under. (Unless Reggie Jackson the team killer is still out) :D

I just meant that the stands are empty as if they're the Hawks. I'm surprised they don't have more home court support in general. Seems like Detroit fans are pretty nonchalant about their team.


It was a completely stupid move for them to move back to downtown. I still cant for the life of me figure out why they did that.
In Auburn Hills they had a family friendly environment and affordable ticket prices. AN arena that was completely theirs and already paid for.
Now they are tenants in someone else's building in an arena thats hard to get into in a city no one wants to go to. The team's net worth has probably been cut in half by this move.
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Post#16 » by G R E Y » Sun Dec 31, 2017 2:10 am

^Bad gamble all around...

Pistons deserved the win.

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Post#17 » by G R E Y » Sun Dec 31, 2017 2:43 pm

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO THE SPURS AND TO THE REALGM SPURS FAMILY!

You know that scene in Indy 4 when Indy’s in quicksand and in a rescue attempt he gets thrown a snake but has to be talked into grabbing it because of his phobia? That was us tonight, but instead of finding a way to hold on we just moved around a lot, sinking deeper... and deeper... and that’s game.

I thought we did a great job as a team with positioning and contesting on the boards, especially LMA with 11 (5 O, 6 D) and Pau with 10 (3 O, 7D). At least you could tell that there was a concerted effort even if Drummond grabbed a ridiculous 21. We outrebounded them 46-45, and surprisingly, also on the O rebounds, 10-6 (Drummond had 4). We made some quality putbacks on the O rebounds, too. Good hustle.

Kawhi played 28 minutes spread through all quarters, scoring a team-high 18 points (4-11, excellent 8-8FTs), 2 rebounds, 3 assists, a steal and a block. He got to his spots, used screens deftly, and split through defenders. He was great on D, positioning to alter and contest opponents’ shots. I hold my breath every time he ends up on the floor after driving to the hoop or diving for steals, and exhale when he gets up.

LMA was very physical all night, and that exertion on team-high 33 minutes took its toll on the other end. His 15 points on 6-15 were both below his season averages.

You could tell Pop was searching for some combination that could spark the team; every player got minutes by the end of the first half alone. But not even the timely timeouts could help us. The plays were well set up, but our shooting was erratic. Not our usual pattern out of timeouts. There were several 4- or 5-point swing possessions where we missed a shot or turned it over and they hit a 2 or 3. It felt as if we were trying to get energy from our O, and when we didn’t our D suffered, rather than being locked in on D and it springboarding the O.

Bad shot election and execution was contagious. Nobody could get it going, and the few guys who shot decently didn’t get enough shots. The three players with double digit attempts were the only ones who scored in double digits (LMA, Kawhi, and Forbes, whose many clean looks garnered 10 points on 4-12 - frustratingly inconsistent; the other 3 starters combined for as many points as Kawhi. Yikes). Of course, there’s not always a corollary between the two, but on a night when the shooting was poor (we hit 31, below our 36.8 road average), we missed opportunities distributing to guys who keep us going. Green was 2-4 from the 3, but both were in the first Q; Parker and Green, Pau and Manu all had fewer shot attempts than their season average. Patty and Bertans, guys who usually provide instant O, had but two shots between them.

If we were trying to stay in it with the 3, it seemed counter productive not to give Patty, Pau and Bertans more opportunities than the three attempts among them. Every player attempted a 3 except for Davis. Weird. Anyway, 5-26 for 19.2% was simply bad.

Pistons were only 8-24 from the 3, but Kennard (4-5) and Bullock (4-7) torched us, combining for more than our entire team. Should make for an interesting video session.

To their credit, Pistons did well to stay in front of Spurs, close up driving lanes, and force rushed passes that resulted in broken plays, turnovers, and poor shots. These were on top of self-inflicted unforced errors. Should also make for an interesting video session.

Since his return, Parker has a 3:1 assist to turnover ratio; tonight, 2 assists and 3 turnovers. It happens, it’s not about magnifying all the mistakes in this game, but it was indicative of a team-wide incongruity. On D, being a step behind, out of sync, and not communicating on Pistons drives, dunks, Js and 3s really hurt us. Oh to be a fly on the wall of that video session.

The closest we got was a 3 point deficit after a 16-5 run to end the first half. We were in our own way with poor plays for 3 1/2 Qs. That sequence in the 4th Q when our 4 point deficit quickly grew to 9, we proceeded to turn it over four times in two minutes, and were down 15 points. Given that the Pistons were more severely undermanned than we were, we sort of fell on our own sword repeatedly in this one.

Still, we have had one game with a complete roster this year. ONE. Pop always maintains a ‘no excuse’ standard, but acknowledging this reality without self-pity acknowledges that it’s a challenge to have guys in and out of the line-up, to not be able to practice together, and to not be able to get set rotations.

Including this game, we play 9 of the next 11 away (3 on the east coast, 1 home; 3 on the west coast, 1 home; 3 on the east coast – brutal) where we score almost 12 fewer points on 43.6%FG (home: 48%FG), shoot the 3 at 32% (home: 39.4%), and get 4 fewer assists. We need to do a better job asserting our strengths and playing our system as we navigate a roster in flux, all this on a hellish upcoming schedule. Welcome to 2018.

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Post#18 » by Nolan » Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:08 pm

We need to either shut Kawhi down again or start playing him every game. This just isn't really working for him or the team, his rhythm is off and so is the whole teams when he comes back into the lineup.
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Post#19 » by imagump1313 » Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:42 pm

Nolan wrote:We need to either shut Kawhi down again or start playing him every game. This just isn't really working for him or the team, his rhythm is off and so is the whole teams when he comes back into the lineup.


I'm not too concerned.

Day before NYE, in a crappy town and its cold as F*** here. Seeing a new arena for the first time on the road, logistics all messed up for a first time probably too. Detroit was bound to play inspired(I originally wrote well but they played like crap too) because their chemistry killer is injured.
The writing was on the wall for this one IMO.

As long as we bounce back with better effort and ball security against the Knicks I'm ok. We cant possibly shoot that bad 2 games in a row.

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